Any chance you can become a "SOFTY"?

[Jimmy_041]

How is it part of the fabric of Adelaide football Dowatcher? A tatty old thread perhaps. It needs to find its relevance otherwise it will quite rightly dissappear.

Can someone tell me the 'raison d'etre' of the Ovingham Football Club?

What's that in latin Boris....

[bandar]

that could be any woman!

haha yes your right but i better not go down that path

this one was from ovies?

sheila i think her name might've been

hang on that might've been the chick from ATCO cricket club

That would be Heather who I think moved on when what was the current regime came in.

[aceman]

Boris does have some points but i think that if people are in a position to help out they should.

The issue of subs being paid has come up before and clubs have some good systems, why doesnt Ovies?

Would be a shame to see a club fold that is for sure

Of course the people who haven't paid their subs, if they are still around, will be expected to pay up, that goes without saying and is the first challenge we face.If they've already gone, next season no clearance to another club signed until the $150.00 is paid irrespective of whether Ovies still exists or not.
We are talking about a club that has formed a reliance on itinerents to make up their numbers, here today, gone tomorrow so that is tpart of the culture of the club that needs to be fixed. That can only happen through stability of people, not only steering the ship, but in onfield representation and proper processes and accountability in place and strictly adhered to. .
If we can't get that right, we are all p^ssing into the wind and it will become completely untenable but at least we're prepared to have a crack at it.
Surrendering to a difficult cause is for "chickens and faint hearted people" That's not me!

[carey]

yep thats her cheers mate pain in the ass at meeting but the club always seemed to be doing the right thing again just an out siders veiw maybe wrong def. aint wrong aboutthe meetings tho.

[aceman]

that could be any woman!

haha yes your right but i better not go down that path

this one was from ovies?

sheila i think her name might've been

hang on that might've been the chick from ATCO cricket club

That was Heather Sanford, I spoke with her last night and she still has a passion for Ovies, but now has other commitments but has asked me to keep her informed of the progress. Wouldn't be too hard to get her back if things were organised properly.
Just another person burnt by the actions of irresponsible people.

[aceman]

How is it part of the fabric of Adelaide football Dowatcher? A tatty old thread perhaps. It needs to find its relevance otherwise it will quite rightly dissappear.

Can someone tell me the 'raison d'etre' of the Ovingham Football Club?

The "reason for being' is simple, it was formed 100+ years ago by people who had a vision.
"The purpose that justifies a thing's existence" is to provide a facility to enable people to play Aussie Rules football.

Now that's the answer to your question and I didn't need to be a teacher or a lawyer to work that out.

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[aceman]

I am happy to report that tonights meeting has been successful and the Ovingham Football Club still has breath left in it. They WILL field an A grade team on Saturday to play against Athelstone.
Thirty four people turned up there tonight, they were addressed by Mark Shadiac, Gino Capogreco & Glenda Czorlohan from the SAAFL who detailed what the requirements were from a financial perspective and what the SAAFL were prepared to do to assist their cause and keep the club playing footy. The Fines component of the debt($2K) has been suspended until the end of 2010 providing the club can from now on, meet the payment schedule as agreed to at tonights meeting. If this is met, the debt will cease to exist at the end of 2010.. Mark gave the people a breakdown of matchday requirements and gave time for each person to have input of their own to discuss issue or problems that they were facing. As a result of this forum, several of the issues were resolved and process's are now in place for the club to move forward. Mark, Gino & Glenda left at around 7.30pm.
The people who have put their hands up to form a new committee then met with myself & the former Chair of the Northgate Comm & Sports Club, Eddie Beavan and we continued the meeting with the entire group until 8.45pm This was held in a casual way with everyone having some input. It was ascertained during the meeting that of the 26 players present, only 1 had not fully paid his subs, the outstanding subs are owed by people who have come & gone from the club, bearing in mind that for the first half of the season, they fielded 2 teams. We were assured that these people had been constantly asked to pay subs but had no intention of paying anything to play footy. Next season when clearances come in from these guys, the $150.00 will need to be paid before any clearance is signed.
The committee will meet again next week with me present to setout the job specs as per the SAAFL guidelines, this is then to be given to the SAAFL for approval. Tomorrow, a payment will be made to the SAAFL of $650.00, money which was at the club raised through canteen/bar sales.
I have no doubt that this has been a case of too much work for too few people, poor communication and a lack of understanding on the requirements to run a club successfully. I am confident that they now understand that it isn't a sin to ask questions or seek help if required, I have offered my help for as long as it is needed. It was pleasing also to see Heather come in to the meeting once she had finished her other commitment, she messaged me later offering her gratitude for what had taken place.
I think now the Ovingham Football Club is back on track, at the end of this season other challenges no doubt will arise but at least we have achieved something that some felt was not possible, so I now have pleasure in confirming that those who pledged assistance can now be assured that your pledge will be used to help the club in the way it was designed, to pay off the outstanding amount and allow the club to get on and play footy and to also function in a profitable, healthy manner.
I look forward to many more pledges from you good people, details of how your pledge can be paid will be posted on Monday.

[nuggety goodness]

Well put Ace. good rundown.

so now our current position is as follows;

We need to cover the cost to the SAAFL which is currently $3715...

we will be paying $650 today reducing that to $3065.

so far IIRC there has been $450 pledged so that makes the current outstanding amount $2625. not really an extraordinary amount.

the players have put their hands up to put in a min of $5 on Saturday (even if we've paid our subs) and obviously there will be some who put in more and we will be having a big one on Saturday night with a few lucky squares and some bets on the footy like first goal, BOG, etc etc... to try and raise a few more funds.

i understand that $5 isn't much, but it is encouraged to dig a bit deeper, we just wanna make sure everyone's contribution doesn't go unnoticed!

now we also have a full page spread in the footy budget (i think) that we can sell to a sponsor and from what i understand it is a full page for the rest of the season, so if you own a business or know of a business that would like to be advertised to the football public at large then let us know, we can negotiate how much you are willing to pay and what we can do for you.

so this is what we are doing, who else is willing to come to the party and help to save Ovingham for this year and beyond?!?

[nuggety goodness]

anyone else gonna jump on the bandwagon and pledge some cash to assist in keeping Ovies alive?

if not cash then any ideas on how we can scrounge up some extra dollars?!?

[bandar]

As a thought Bunnings at Mile End let clubs run the BBq to make some money and if it's a good day you can make a good quid. Some volunteers and away you go.

[nuggety goodness]

As a thought Bunnings at Mile End let clubs run the BBq to make some money and if it's a good day you can make a good quid. Some volunteers and away you go.

yeah, i just tried the Kent Town one and they are booked out for the rest of the year...

Mile End is the next one...

[Esteban Vihaio]

Good to see you doing something constructive Aceman, beats some of your recent form.

[Benchwarmer]

The major issue is accountability. How was this situation allowed to occur? Should people not associated with the club be made to feel guilty and put our hands in our pockets if we don't feel an empathy for them? Would they do the same back if the roles were reversed?

In Melbourne in the 1980s, a large number of clubs (footy and cricket) vanished (folding or mergers) because of a lack of finances or a lack of players. If the situation is as I believe it is, the SAAFL should not have to feel responsible or take any responsibility for something they had no part in. If Ovies haven't got the financial strength or player numbers then maybe there should be some alternate options explored.

Imagine if up to five clubs went to the League every year and sought reductions in fees and fines because they were in trouble - the upshot would be that the league wouldn't function properly and all clubs would be affected as a result. Love it or hate it, the fees keep the game going and having no umps or less staff running the league would affect the overall situation for everyone.

Teams stand up on their own two feet on a match day on the field and they should also stand up and be accountable off the field as well.

[Keepitreal]

Good to see you doing something constructive Aceman, beats some of your recent form.

Lucky it wasn't one his cryptic clues threads or we would still be trying to guess which club needs the help.

[aceman]

Good to see you doing something constructive Aceman, beats some of your recent form.

Get on board son, instead of snooping through making 'sniper' like comments. God has spoken!
Back over that border near the Villa Quatro

[aceman]

Good to see you doing something constructive Aceman, beats some of your recent form.

Lucky it wasn't one his cryptic clues threads or we would still be trying to guess which club needs the help.

No mate, that's the fun side of things, this is serious and needs serious consideration.

[Mr Miraculous]

The major issue is accountability. How was this situation allowed to occur? Should people not associated with the club be made to feel guilty and put our hands in our pockets if we don't feel an empathy for them? Would they do the same back if the roles were reversed?

In Melbourne in the 1980s, a large number of clubs (footy and cricket) vanished (folding or mergers) because of a lack of finances or a lack of players. If the situation is as I believe it is, the SAAFL should not have to feel responsible or take any responsibility for something they had no part in. If Ovies haven't got the financial strength or player numbers then maybe there should be some alternate options explored.

Imagine if up to five clubs went to the League every year and sought reductions in fees and fines because they were in trouble - the upshot would be that the league wouldn't function properly and all clubs would be affected as a result. Love it or hate it, the fees keep the game going and having no umps or less staff running the league would affect the overall situation for everyone.

Teams stand up on their own two feet on a match day on the field and they should also stand up and be accountable off the field as well.

If ovies had been struggling for years i would understand your spray. But bare in mind they have been around for 100 years+ and Im sure they would have helped other clubs in there time. Why dont you embrace the fact that several individuals have put there very reputations on the line to help a club they have no offiliation with. They asked the league for help, they got it. Thank-you SAAFL and thank-you to all saving ovingham FC

[Lightning McQueen]

Good to see you doing something constructive Aceman, beats some of your recent form.

Lucky it wasn't one his cryptic clues threads or we would still be trying to guess which club needs the help.

[aceman]

Good to see you doing something constructive Aceman, beats some of your recent form.

Lucky it wasn't one his cryptic clues threads or we would still be trying to guess which club needs the help.

Some one told me you had the "clap", I hope it's not too serious. An injection will fix it.

[Lightning McQueen]

The major issue is accountability. How was this situation allowed to occur? Should people not associated with the club be made to feel guilty and put our hands in our pockets if we don't feel an empathy for them? Would they do the same back if the roles were reversed?

In Melbourne in the 1980s, a large number of clubs (footy and cricket) vanished (folding or mergers) because of a lack of finances or a lack of players. If the situation is as I believe it is, the SAAFL should not have to feel responsible or take any responsibility for something they had no part in. If Ovies haven't got the financial strength or player numbers then maybe there should be some alternate options explored.

Imagine if up to five clubs went to the League every year and sought reductions in fees and fines because they were in trouble - the upshot would be that the league wouldn't function properly and all clubs would be affected as a result. Love it or hate it, the fees keep the game going and having no umps or less staff running the league would affect the overall situation for everyone.

Teams stand up on their own two feet on a match day on the field and they should also stand up and be accountable off the field as well.

If you don't wish to help, don't. Aceman isn't involved with Ovies and this is not a Ovie-bashing thread, no ones being made feel guilty.