Ron Fuller to leave Eagles at season's end

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we shouldn't we crossing out a coach who has AFL aspirations.......

if he gets us up........it strengthens his case........

Quite right. I said something about this about another club on here (got no idea when or who), and the reply from someone was that "every coach would have AFL aspirations". No they don't, and I'd much prefer not to have another situation like Hamilton - in one year, out the next.

[matt1]

Speaking with one of the Board members today, the Club is not ruling anyone out. Even Ron had AFL aspirations they told me.....

[am Bays]

Speaking with one of the Board members today, the Club is not ruling anyone out. Even Ron had AFL aspirations they told me.....

So Holden78 is still a chance then???

[dedja]

Good old VB Commodore ...

[Mickyj]

we shouldn't we crossing out a coach who has AFL aspirations.......

if he gets us up........it strengthens his case........

Quite right. I said something about this about another club on here (got no idea when or who), and the reply from someone was that "every coach would have AFL aspirations". No they don't, and I'd much prefer not to have another situation like Hamilton - in one year, out the next.

Yep we dont want another Mikan (getting all our players drafted to the crows when he went back) or Hamilton.
What the club needs after talking with other eagles fans today is .
1 someone from outside the club
2 someone who can do something different at training to break up the boredom of the players doing the same training drills week after week after week.as under Ron.(hamilton changed training from week to week)
3 Someone who can bring the masses back in or in other words bums on seats .
What some are also saying there is not much around in ex coaches with SANFL winning finals/GF's experience .Perhaps the club will go east west and South(as in Tassie) as well .

[Mickyj]

Speaking with one of the Board members today, the Club is not ruling anyone out. Even Ron had AFL aspirations they told me.....

Geez one of the Board guys must have a door thats almost off its hinges !!! With all the ex coaches going through it

[BigKev]

Hello everyone - can't help but be amused at the "get rid of Ron Fuller" element here. A guy takes the club to finals in 8 of 9 years, 4 GFs, one Premiership (at least!) and so many people queue up to want to move him on. Of course, the SANFL recent history is littered with coaches who have better records - Jarman, McGuiness, Ginever, Lewis, McIntosh, Noble, Hill, McDermott, Weidemann, Borchard, MacGowan, Cahill, Sampson, Rehn, Applegarth, Pyman, Knights, Williams, Honor - thats 17 coaches by the way, who have all coached against Ron and have not had the success that he has had - some had short stints granted. Clarkson, Phillips and Laird obviously are standouts. My point is that the grass is not always greener on the other side. MickyJ wants a coach who doesn't bore the players and gets people in - if following a team that has a 90% chance of playing finals (and whatever Ron's winning record is) doesn't get people to the game what will?? Micky - do think getting a successful coach might be a bit higher up the priorities? Even if he isn't best friends with the players? Being popular with players as a key characteristic is fraught with danger. Being respected by the players is a strong characteristic, as is being contemporary, being innovative and being resilient. Parting company with Ron is probably the right move but I for one am hoping the Board has a bit more insight that player popularity. I am mindful of the saying "To any complex problem (like being a successful coach) there is always a simple solution - and it is usually wrong." Just my thoughts and I look forward to the sparring.

[Mickyj]

Hello everyone - can't help but be amused at the "get rid of Ron Fuller" element here. A guy takes the club to finals in 8 of 9 years, 4 GFs, one Premiership (at least!) and so many people queue up to want to move him on. Of course, the SANFL recent history is littered with coaches who have better records - Jarman, McGuiness, Ginever, Lewis, McIntosh, Noble, Hill, McDermott, Weidemann, Borchard, MacGowan, Cahill, Sampson, Rehn, Applegarth, Pyman, Knights, Williams, Honor - thats 17 coaches by the way, who have all coached against Ron and have not had the success that he has had - some had short stints granted. Clarkson, Phillips and Laird obviously are standouts. My point is that the grass is not always greener on the other side. MickyJ wants a coach who doesn't bore the players and gets people in - if following a team that has a 90% chance of playing finals (and whatever Ron's winning record is) doesn't get people to the game what will?? Micky - do think getting a successful coach might be a bit higher up the priorities? Even if he isn't best friends with the players? Being popular with players as a key characteristic is fraught with danger. Being respected by the players is a strong characteristic, as is being contemporary, being innovative and being resilient. Parting company with Ron is probably the right move but I for one am hoping the Board has a bit more insight that player popularity. I am mindful of the saying "To any complex problem (like being a successful coach) there is always a simple solution - and it is usually wrong." Just my thoughts and I look forward to the sparring.

Everyone is entitled to their thoughts BIG kev.
But either I have written it wrongly or you have read it wrongly.
My sources tell me Hamilton used to mix the training sessions up do different things etc.And Ron does the same drill Wednesday after Wednesday after Wednesday.Now either Eagles players are bored shitless or extremely stale(and I grew up around greyhound racing tracks I know how they get greyhounds interested again but one can't do that with footballers ) .And for my old eyes last year and this year reminds me very much of Bruce Winters final year.
Yes I want a coach who does things different on the training track.I also want a coach with a plan B or one who will move a player when needs be.Zac heir on chambers at oval ave is a good example he should have been moved but wasn't.The same thing was going on at the parade yesterday in the last quarter.From a far Trent was getting a bath he should have been moved or helped in the least.
Yes MickyJ wants a new Coach .Yes Mickyj thinks Ron leaving will bring some of the factions together like the 06 mob I abused for calling for rons head round1 06 .How wrong they were then but not today.
Yes MickyJ wants a coach that can coach against an AFL style running game favoured by West Adelaide Sturt etc.
And MickyJ wants to see FORTRESS WOODVILLE bathed in a tri colour sea of Blue Green and Yellow.Just look back to when Andrew Jarman went home to North Adelaide.Look what happened the people came back there were Red and White shirts and 'you reds'.We as a club needs a person with Charisma .Dont get me wrong Andrew Jarman is not the man but some one along those lines .
BUT what MickyJ wants means nothing What or the Who the club can afford is up to the Club not MICKYJ.
And for my money the club will need to cross borders to find the right person .West East or South they will need to travel to find the right bloke.
I will end this post by saying WWT needs someone who is not aligned to WWT an outsider with a very big broom !!!

[dedja]

Welcome to the forum Ronnie ... oops, I mean BigKev.

[Mickyj]

Welcome to the forum Ronnie ... oops, I mean BigKev.

perhaps he is Ron seeing he hasn't replied to my reply

[wedgetail]

Hello everyone - can't help but be amused at the "get rid of Ron Fuller" element here. A guy takes the club to finals in 8 of 9 years, 4 GFs, one Premiership (at least!) and so many people queue up to want to move him on. Of course, the SANFL recent history is littered with coaches who have better records - Jarman, McGuiness, Ginever, Lewis, McIntosh, Noble, Hill, McDermott, Weidemann, Borchard, MacGowan, Cahill, Sampson, Rehn, Applegarth, Pyman, Knights, Williams, Honor - thats 17 coaches by the way, who have all coached against Ron and have not had the success that he has had - some had short stints granted. Clarkson, Phillips and Laird obviously are standouts. My point is that the grass is not always greener on the other side. MickyJ wants a coach who doesn't bore the players and gets people in - if following a team that has a 90% chance of playing finals (and whatever Ron's winning record is) doesn't get people to the game what will?? Micky - do think getting a successful coach might be a bit higher up the priorities? Even if he isn't best friends with the players? Being popular with players as a key characteristic is fraught with danger. Being respected by the players is a strong characteristic, as is being contemporary, being innovative and being resilient. Parting company with Ron is probably the right move but I for one am hoping the Board has a bit more insight that player popularity. I am mindful of the saying "To any complex problem (like being a successful coach) there is always a simple solution - and it is usually wrong." Just my thoughts and I look forward to the sparring.

BigKev, you share the thoughts of myself and quite a few of my eagle mates on this one. Well put-logical, factual and well thought out. I have faith in the club to have due diligence with the next appointment and believe we will get the best available person for the club. Too many of our supporters are still biased by the Torrens/Woodville thing and can't see that whilst Fuller had his faults, he was still very good for the club and in any other era where there wasn't such a dominant club (centrals), we probably would have won one or two more.

[Mickyj]

Too many of our supporters are still biased by the Torrens/Woodville

At the risk of being seen as anti this and anti that .I will say hence my comments above about someone outside the WWTFC .And if one looks at the current coaching panel excluding Mark jeffries it is biased towards Woodville(not that that is a bad thing looking at rons record) .
We as a club need a fresh person at the helm from elsewhere. My sources from inside Victoria are saying these three may need a new coaching home
Hickmont(a certainty to be leaving Essendon) ,Teagues and Mcrea .
While some may see me as always anti everything I can assure everyone I am not .And whoever the club chooses will have my support.

But a change is needed I am certain the new CEO can see this .
While Wedgietail and Big Kev may not agree with myself many people who follow /support are members of the Eagles agree a change has been over due for at least a year.

[BigKev]

Micky - I am ok with a change - as I said in my original post, its probably the right decision. I just want the Board to get the best person and focus on continuing success for our club - be it inside or outside the club, be they South Australians or from the East or West. I admire your passion for our club by the way and your opinions are always good reading and provocative which is a good thing - the world would be very boring if we all agreed with each other all the time on footy!

[Mickyj]

Micky - I am ok with a change - as I said in my original post, its probably the right decision. I just want the Board to get the best person and focus on continuing success for our club - be it inside or outside the club, be they South Australians or from the East or West. I admire your passion for our club by the way and your opinions are always good reading and provocative which is a good thing - the world would be very boring if we all agreed with each other all the time on footy!

No worries Kev.I think that the NEW CEO will certainly do his best at finding the right person or persons to take the club forward .

Of course in a year there could be a topic COME BACK RON ALL IS FORGIVEN

[BigKev]

That would be a laugh! It promises to be an interesting next couple of years with perhaps de-listings of former Eagles and a good crop of youngsters coming through. I think it is a good playing group to take over - I think I heard Chris Davies say that he was confident of interest in the position and hopefully that is the case. Mind you a couple of decent midfielders would be nice though. It would be good to get a Crane or an Allan type to get straight in and dominate!

[Mickyj]

That would be a laugh! It promises to be an interesting next couple of years with perhaps de-listings of former Eagles and a good crop of youngsters coming through. I think it is a good playing group to take over - I think I heard Chris Davies say that he was confident of interest in the position and hopefully that is the case. Mind you a couple of decent midfielders would be nice though. It would be good to get a Crane or an Allan type to get straight in and dominate!

Yep we need to get those midfielders Saturday at times proved we need a lift in the midfield.With a number one ruck plus a leading FF to replace Passador,who is going home next year .