inglefarm football club 2009

[interested observer]

Ok Phantom Gossiper, here goes. Well done doggies, great effort yesterday, heard scores were level at 3/4 time but the guy's just couldn't pull it off in the last. I'd say the rossies coach would have had a quiet chat to his players at 3/4 time too. Good to see the improvement in the last couple of weeks. May have something to do with the inclusion of S. Collins lol.

Congrats to Bucky, Greg and Luke on their 100th games. Watched Greg and Nath come through the juniors with my lad, both good kids. And Lucy's a champ too.

Also heard most of the old hill crowd was back on sat., that would inspire any team, can remember a certain successful coach who would take his team to the hill to sing the club song after a good win. love em, don't move them on. Get some of that old farmer spirit in to these young kids and who knows what could happen.

Old crowd, new crowd, we appreciate all positive support, was good to see the supporters fired up and pushing the boys and I think the boys are certainly showing fighting spirit and are starting to believe in their own abilities and in their team mates, has taken a bit of time and losing a lot of quality players from last year was a blow, but can only look to the future and
hopefully the success on the field won't be to far away.

Well done boys...

[maddog009]

this weeks cgrade game between i farm and ttgully which was 12.15 at i farm is now normal time 2.15 at i/farm

[full foward]

What is going on at the farm?How are we looking for next year?Are we expected to put up with more of the same.I see the sporting club has been working hard to improve cricket this year will they do the same for footy?

[old farmer]

heard on the doggie vine on saturday night that there will be some good money offered to some ex players to make a return in 2010. never been allowed to happen before but apparently approved for next year. you never know full forward, you may be able to pick up some pocket money to make a comeback and kick your usual 70 or 80.

[full foward]

heard on the doggie vine on saturday night that there will be some good money offered to some ex players to make a return in 2010. never been allowed to happen before but apparently approved for next year. you never know full forward, you may be able to pick up some pocket money to make a comeback and kick your usual 70 or 80.

You are a funny man old farmer but lets face it they could do worse. Might even be a spot for you on the back flank.

[test]

What is going on at the farm?How are we looking for next year?Are we expected to put up with more of the same.I see the sporting club has been working hard to improve cricket this year will they do the same for footy?

with the money the farmers are spending on their cricket team dont expect any to be left for the footballers!!!!!

[Phantom Gossiper]

What is going on at the farm?How are we looking for next year?Are we expected to put up with more of the same.I see the sporting club has been working hard to improve cricket this year will they do the same for footy?

with the money the farmers are spending on their cricket team dont expect any to be left for the footballers!!!!!

i've gotta say i agree, from rumors i've heard regarding sums of cash splashed for players i wouldne expect much to be left for the footy players! Perhaps the club should look to remain competitive in A2 and not pay blokes and look to move back up the ranks in the SAAFL, its abt the only criticism i have..

[old farmer]

heard on the doggie vine on saturday night that there will be some good money offered to some ex players to make a return in 2010. never been allowed to happen before but apparently approved for next year. you never know full forward, you may be able to pick up some pocket money to make a comeback and kick your usual 70 or 80.

You are a funny man old farmer but lets face it they could do worse. Might even be a spot for you on the back flank.

plenty of action back there, bit quiet up your end though. anyway whats this hbf crap, surely you've been in awe of my goal kicking skills this year ff and i reckon i fed you 30 or 40.

[old farmer]

What is going on at the farm?How are we looking for next year?Are we expected to put up with more of the same.I see the sporting club has been working hard to improve cricket this year will they do the same for footy?

with the money the farmers are spending on their cricket team dont expect any to be left for the footballers!!!!!

i've gotta say i agree, from rumors i've heard regarding sums of cash splashed for players i wouldne expect much to be left for the footy players! Perhaps the club should look to remain competitive in A2 and not pay blokes and look to move back up the ranks in the SAAFL, its abt the only criticism i have..

don't expect that to happen anytime soon, club has been run by cricket people for way too long

[bulldogs]

shit you blokes are so far off the mark.
each individual sporting body is run independently from the sporting club. its up to each of those bodies to raise there own money and spend it as they chose. i can tell you that cricket doesnt recieve money from the sporting club, we have an excellent committe who works bloody hard. if players get paid that is done thru cricket and shit it wouldnt be much in fact its peanuts, stop belieeving rumours and learn the facts.

FF you say the sporting club is working hard to improve cricket, well thats wrong cricket are working hard to improve cricket. and old farmer the sporting club isnt run by cricket people but is run by club people, why dont we go back to it being run by footy people as it used to be. we can then shut the doors and fold up just as it nearly happened about 10yrs ago or why dont we appoint footy people to pinch the money again.

Phantom you need to learn the workings of the club a bit more i would say before you comment. as ive said sporting club, footy, cricket all have seperate committees and bank accts.

i dont believe the shit i just read

[Phantom Gossiper]

My apologies bulldog im only goin on what i have heard and my own opinions generated from this, if i am (which it appears so) am off the mark then i am sorry.

But if it is as you say with your seperate commitees then what are cricket doing different to footy and why is footy falling away so much when cricket appears to prosper?

I may not know the intricate details of the Ingle Farm club but i do have a lot of experience in "workings of clubs", my major issue at the moment to be honest is a continuation of FF and old farmer bagging the sh*t out of the club! I mean in one post they claim to love the club etc etc, in other they bag it! End of the day if you really do care abt the club then politics aside do the right thing by it and support it and see it thru the tough times!

... anyone can play for a successful club, takes true heart, determination, dignity, integrity to play for one that is struggling..

[old farmer]

Phantom Gossiper, i have been at the club in good times and help dig the club out of the last lot of bad times. In the last 14 years i have been a player, senior football committes (president for 2.5 seasons ) junior committees, assistant coach and runner or even boundary ump for numerous junior coaches, therefore i'm allowed to be a little pissed at where senior football is heading. Took us a long time to get to div 4, so it is dissapointing to see us back in div 6 ( and don't think that will be a walk in the park ) If we hit div 7 that will be the lowest day in the clubs history. Will not be involved at club whilst certain people who think they are the only people at the club who do anything are there. Will always love the club but i won't get on here and give the same old " IF can hold their head high " crap i've been reading all year. The football committee only have themselves to blame for why we struggled this year and i look forward with intrest to see if they can make their own decisions next year and turn things around.

Bulldogs you are obviously a cricketer, you know that the sporting club gives both cricket and football money each year, unfortunatly they both get the same when the bar takings in cricket season would be under half of a football season and for some reason you can spend your money on players and that has never been allowed in football. All comes back to one peson running the whole clubs finances. Football need to get their own treasurer and run things how they want. she's got everyone bluffed that she has to be treasurer of everything. Change the constitution at AGM and get back to running your sports as you want.

[interested observer]

Phantom Gossiper, i have been at the club in good times and help dig the club out of the last lot of bad times. In the last 14 years i have been a player, senior football committes (president for 2.5 seasons ) junior committees, assistant coach and runner or even boundary ump for numerous junior coaches, therefore i'm allowed to be a little pissed at where senior football is heading. Took us a long time to get to div 4, so it is dissapointing to see us back in div 6 ( and don't think that will be a walk in the park ) If we hit div 7 that will be the lowest day in the clubs history. Will not be involved at club whilst certain people who think they are the only people at the club who do anything are there. Will always love the club but i won't get on here and give the same old " IF can hold their head high " crap i've been reading all year. The football committee only have themselves to blame for why we struggled this year and i look forward with intrest to see if they can make their own decisions next year and turn things around.

Bulldogs you are obviously a cricketer, you know that the sporting club gives both cricket and football money each year, unfortunatly they both get the same when the bar takings in cricket season would be under half of a football season and for some reason you can spend your money on players and that has never been allowed in football. All comes back to one peson running the whole clubs finances. Football need to get their own treasurer and run things how they want. she's got everyone bluffed that she has to be treasurer of everything. Change the constitution at AGM and get back to running your sports as you want.

The YOUR MONEY you are alluding to is money given to operate 4 now 5 cricket teams..
It assists in paying for such things as oval hire, ball fees, umpires, curators, affiliation fees etc..
Do some homework and find out what the cricket club made from off field fund raising in this off season, by club people giving up their time and putting in for a cricket club that knows where it wants to go..
Also do some homework and ask around how many people get back to the club on a Saturday night for meals during cricket season..
Come along one night soon. You might be pleasantly suprised..
Amazing the things that can happen when you get everyone pulling in the one direction, instead of people that just want to continue to fracture the joint..
Forget the Footy v Cricket crap as that is the biggest lot of muck you have written on this forum..

The sad reality is that you guys do really care for the club, otherwise you would have moved on by now.
One day you might really show it....

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Phantom Gossiper, i have been at the club in good times and help dig the club out of the last lot of bad times. In the last 14 years i have been a player, senior football committes (president for 2.5 seasons ) junior committees, assistant coach and runner or even boundary ump for numerous junior coaches, therefore i'm allowed to be a little pissed at where senior football is heading. Took us a long time to get to div 4, so it is dissapointing to see us back in div 6 ( and don't think that will be a walk in the park ) If we hit div 7 that will be the lowest day in the clubs history. Will not be involved at club whilst certain people who think they are the only people at the club who do anything are there. Will always love the club but i won't get on here and give the same old " IF can hold their head high " crap i've been reading all year. The football committee only have themselves to blame for why we struggled this year and i look forward with intrest to see if they can make their own decisions next year and turn things around.

Bulldogs you are obviously a cricketer, you know that the sporting club gives both cricket and football money each year, unfortunatly they both get the same when the bar takings in cricket season would be under half of a football season and for some reason you can spend your money on players and that has never been allowed in football. All comes back to one peson running the whole clubs finances. Football need to get their own treasurer and run things how they want. she's got everyone bluffed that she has to be treasurer of everything. Change the constitution at AGM and get back to running your sports as you want.

Committees make decisions not individuals on the Committee. If the Football Committee had a proposal that involved spending some funds on the recruitment of players then the normal process would be to formalise the proposal for discussion. A motion would then be moved and the Committee then vote on it. Surely democracy prevails. If the Committee doesn't allow democracy to prevail then the Committee is to blame not the individual.

[bulldogs]

My apologies bulldog im only goin on what i have heard and my own opinions generated from this, if i am (which it appears so) am off the mark then i am sorry.

But if it is as you say with your seperate commitees then what are cricket doing different to footy and why is footy falling away so much when cricket appears to prosper?

I may not know the intricate details of the Ingle Farm club but i do have a lot of experience in "workings of clubs", my major issue at the moment to be honest is a continuation of FF and old farmer bagging the sh*t out of the club! I mean in one post they claim to love the club etc etc, in other they bag it! End of the day if you really do care abt the club then politics aside do the right thing by it and support it and see it thru the tough times!

... anyone can play for a successful club, takes true heart, determination, dignity, integrity to play for one that is struggling..

no worries Phantom. I suppose Cricket have alot of experience both on and off the field and work really hard to raise some money. we have done a couple of fundraising weekends in May and June which proved to be very succesful.

[bulldogs]

Phantom Gossiper, i have been at the club in good times and help dig the club out of the last lot of bad times. In the last 14 years i have been a player, senior football committes (president for 2.5 seasons ) junior committees, assistant coach and runner or even boundary ump for numerous junior coaches, therefore i'm allowed to be a little pissed at where senior football is heading. Took us a long time to get to div 4, so it is dissapointing to see us back in div 6 ( and don't think that will be a walk in the park ) If we hit div 7 that will be the lowest day in the clubs history. Will not be involved at club whilst certain people who think they are the only people at the club who do anything are there. Will always love the club but i won't get on here and give the same old " IF can hold their head high " crap i've been reading all year. The football committee only have themselves to blame for why we struggled this year and i look forward with intrest to see if they can make their own decisions next year and turn things around.

Bulldogs you are obviously a cricketer, you know that the sporting club gives both cricket and football money each year, unfortunatly they both get the same when the bar takings in cricket season would be under half of a football season and for some reason you can spend your money on players and that has never been allowed in football. All comes back to one peson running the whole clubs finances. Football need to get their own treasurer and run things how they want. she's got everyone bluffed that she has to be treasurer of everything. Change the constitution at AGM and get back to running your sports as you want.

yes i am. i think crickets bar takings have been very good. ive been to the club on thurs nights in footy season and no one is upstairs all down drinkn there own piss out of the changerooms, how is this fair.yes one person is the treasurer but she doesnt have control over our finances, maybe the footy commitees need to be stronger and have a clear direction on what they want to achieve with there finances. we run our sport as we want so does golf and i believe jnr footy.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Best & Fairest Count

A Grade:-

Winner - G. Hawkesworth
Runner up:- R. Tremain, A. Hartwell

B Grade:-

Winner:- B. Smart
Runner up:- S. Collins

C Grade:-

Winner:- D. Manning
Runnner up:- M. Bedgegood

[justadad]

I cant beleive some of the negative crap that is posted here.
Im not sure how things were run a few years ago,but im very happy with the way the junior side is being run.The junior committee and new chairman have done a fantastic job this season,and I hope they are re-elected next year. Im also chuffed the Junior Chairman has put his hand up to push for an 18's side next season, I have heard.This will certainly stand the seniors in good stead for the forth coming years hopefully. It also gives the juniors something to aspire to as well I guess.
The Cricket committee is a great working group from what I have heard also.I am not involved with the Cricket side of things(yet) but as a Dad around the club,I am more than happy to support any IF sporting group that shares our roof and I see the work their committee does towards fund raising and its great. This mentallity of "us v them" has caused far to much damage in the past and I think the club really needs to work on breaking those walls down.
Its just a shame that the Senior Football Committee do not gain the support they require.
As I understand it,its a 2 man band with one doing all the work,the other not doing any work!
Some of the seniors really need to put their hand up and help where it is needed.
No point whinging about all the extras, other clubs have, when no one is willing to put their hand up and help obtain all those little extras by way of fundraising etc.
Perhaps its time for the Senior committee to make a stand and say enough is enough...you WILL pay all your subs prior to playing the first game....you WILL assist with fundraising.....you WILL assist where ever and when ever needed. They need to start planting the seeds for a winning mentallity,but I guess when ex players leave the club with axes to grind after years of great service,it makes it hard for a club to establish a new committee dedicated enough to carry out all the work that is required,and with that previous comment,I mean no malice as im sure you all have your reasons,but I guess from a selfish point of veiw,it would be great to have the likes of those players still around,but then again,what would I know,apparently im just a 2 year legend!

From where I sit,its a bloody shame that all the hard work ex players have put into making the IF club a great place to be, can just turn their back on it all over petty squabbles.
Again,I may be overstepping the mark,and for that I apologise, but when one reads comments like I am constantly reading on this forum,its hard to beleive anything else.

[Keepitreal]

Best & Fairest Count

A Grade:-

Winner - G. Hawkesworth
Runner up:- R. Tremain, A. Hartwell

B Grade:-

Winner:- B. Smart
Runner up:- S. Collins

C Grade:-

Winner:- D. Manning
Runnner up:- M. Bedgegood

Well done to the boys in the count very deserving in what has been a very hard year. Excellent to see so many young guns stepping up and what a champ is Hawk.

[bulldogs]

I cant beleive some of the negative crap that is posted here.
Im not sure how things were run a few years ago,but im very happy with the way the junior side is being run.The junior committee and new chairman have done a fantastic job this season,and I hope they are re-elected next year. Im also chuffed the Junior Chairman has put his hand up to push for an 18's side next season, I have heard.This will certainly stand the seniors in good stead for the forth coming years hopefully. It also gives the juniors something to aspire to as well I guess.
The Cricket committee is a great working group from what I have heard also.I am not involved with the Cricket side of things(yet) but as a Dad around the club,I am more than happy to support any IF sporting group that shares our roof and I see the work their committee does towards fund raising and its great. This mentallity of "us v them" has caused far to much damage in the past and I think the club really needs to work on breaking those walls down.
Its just a shame that the Senior Football Committee do not gain the support they require.
As I understand it,its a 2 man band with one doing all the work,the other not doing any work!
Some of the seniors really need to put their hand up and help where it is needed.
No point whinging about all the extras, other clubs have, when no one is willing to put their hand up and help obtain all those little extras by way of fundraising etc.
Perhaps its time for the Senior committee to make a stand and say enough is enough...you WILL pay all your subs prior to playing the first game....you WILL assist with fundraising.....you WILL assist where ever and when ever needed. They need to start planting the seeds for a winning mentallity,but I guess when ex players leave the club with axes to grind after years of great service,it makes it hard for a club to establish a new committee dedicated enough to carry out all the work that is required,and with that previous comment,I mean no malice as im sure you all have your reasons,but I guess from a selfish point of veiw,it would be great to have the likes of those players still around,but then again,what would I know,apparently im just a 2 year legend!

From where I sit,its a bloody shame that all the hard work ex players have put into making the IF club a great place to be, can just turn their back on it all over petty squabbles.
Again,I may be overstepping the mark,and for that I apologise, but when one reads comments like I am constantly reading on this forum,its hard to beleive anything else.