HFL Division 2 (Country)

[The Gimp]

so what happens now with Torrens Valley. I'm told the Clubs overwhelmingly voted to keep them down in Country Division for 2010.

Will they move to BL&G ? If they don't, I think a few players may seek a bigger challenge elsewhere.

The clubs didn't actually vote to keep them down, they voted to keep Cent Div as a 10 team comp instead of 11 teams. They also said that if TV wants to go up, then they should go through the correct process and apply for season 2011. But at this stage, since there's no promotion relegation system in place, they would need a cent. div team to want to come down before they can be promoted.

There will be further meetings to discuss a future promotion/relegation system in the near future.

[BoundaryRider84]

so what happens now with Torrens Valley. I'm told the Clubs overwhelmingly voted to keep them down in Country Division for 2010.

Will they move to BL&G ? If they don't, I think a few players may seek a bigger challenge elsewhere.

The clubs didn't actually vote to keep them down, they voted to keep Cent Div as a 10 team comp instead of 11 teams. They also said that if TV wants to go up, then they should go through the correct process and apply for season 2011. But at this stage, since there's no promotion relegation system in place, they would need a cent. div team to want to come down before they can be promoted.

There will be further meetings to discuss a future promotion/relegation system in the near future.

Even if T'V wont be move to the BLG there is no way that the BLG will be accpeting them, we have an extremely successful 9 team competition. And don't need a club like that coming into our association.

[BRaG]

I dont blame the central teams for rejecting TV, I would of done the same in the same situation. However I think teams having to submit an application close to 12 years in advance is a bit over the top. Its a long time in football to know what is going to happen. Im assuming they can submit an application and then withdraw it if things dont go to plan? If so TV maybe should of shown some forsight but I think common sense should apply at some stage.

TV could be in a bit of trouble if the rumour of some good players wanting out is true, could fall back to the pack in a big way, oh well I wont be shedding a tear.

[JS SPORTS]

I wonder what reaction was forthcoming from GH. Did he 'spit the dummy' and go straight home to work on another plan of attack?

[ORDoubleBlues]

You seem to have no problem bagging gumeracha, look at what caused all of the red cards the same kersbrook player continued to throw elbows and punch the gumeracha players (while the umpires where watching) and get away with it the gumeracha players stick up for them selves and get punished what is kersbrook a protected side because of the names they have in their side i saw one gumeracha player get thrown to the ground and then chocked and the gumeracha player gets sent off how does that work

Hmmm, so every HFL Country Div club that has played Gumeracha this year has antagonised them to the point that most of them get sent off?? Any truth that the Gums Coach is banned from coaching in Amateur League? I wonder what for

With all due respect to some posters your recent posts have been nothing short of disgraceful. Let me be the first to say what SOME (not all as you would lead us to believe) of our players did was embarassing and it was something that hurt me as a Gumeracha person through and through. But NSP has a point, it was the stupid niggly garbage that has no place in football that started it all...... 3 players just reacted appaulingly to stuff that Kersy have been dishing up for years. As for Thommo, he appeared to be standing up for our players who were being continually abused by certain elder statesmen from over the hill who are supposed to be well respected. Our players have been reasonably well behaved for the most part this season, certainly "most" of our players havent been sent off..... Saturday let us down in a big way but its a bit rich for someone from Kersbrook having a crack for ill-discipline.

Also what gives umpires the right to take hold of our players during a game. A Kersy player, who shall remain unnamed, elbows, strangles and punches one of our players and it was our bloke who gets hammered by the Ump and forcibly dragged away by an umpire. What wouldve happened if the roles were reversed ?? The player in question would be lucky to play again but nothing will happen to the umpires.

Again I will re-iterate that the IMO 2 out of the 3 players that were sent off for us on Saturday (and the 1 from Kersy who was lucky to be there anyway) deserved to be so but its our clubs "image" that rightly or wrongly saw the umpires make huge mistakes that couldve seen all these situations avoid

Ill-Discipline Kersbrook?? Well Shortman tell me how many cards have been dished out to the obviously 'Picked on' Gumeracha players in 2009?? Kersbrook's 'A' grade received it's FIRST yellow card for the season on Saturday, and NO 'A' grade player has had to go to HFL Headquaters on Wednesday night. Think Brett James has his blokes perhaps a fraction more disciplined than Thommo. And again is Thommo banned from the Amateurs, hence why he is at Gums??

That's all well and good Cougar but a certain last minute recruit should have been yellow carded at the very least in our encounter at your ground and why he wasn't is a mystery

[ORDoubleBlues]

so what happens now with Torrens Valley. I'm told the Clubs overwhelmingly voted to keep them down in Country Division for 2010.

Will they move to BL&G ? If they don't, I think a few players may seek a bigger challenge elsewhere.

Bigger Challenge or Pay Cheques?

Well the Central div clubs certainly did and it was funny that the vote was 12-5 given that there is 19 clubs in the league.

May not have passed the relevant by laws but it was in everyone's interest that they went up next year.

Was comedy gold that Lobethal said 'it will be the ruination of our club' if they had to play in the country div. Yes they may have won 3 GF's and they may have played in 6 GF's in the last 15 years but they are on a treadmill to nowhere and unless they allow GH to come back, they'll be near the bottom for some time to come.

[Pigsy]

Pigsy thinks no one wants to play with TV

[skimmer box]

I know there are a few central clubs licking their lips as they prepare to swoop on the disgruntled T/V players for season 2010, only prob is that they will only be able to afford one each at the price they were payed this year.
G H will be at T/V one more year before his roadshow moves on to the next club perhaps Lobethal.

[UNDERthePACK]

Rumour has it that Luke Slattery is heading back to town again next year to give it another go. What would that mean for TV because isn't he the glue that got half their side to the club (plus the wad of cash would of helped).

[ray borner]

Hey Cougar how has my old mate Paul Collyer been travelling for the brookers this season?

[ORDoubleBlues]

Rumour has it that Luke Slattery is heading back to town again next year to give it another go. What would that mean for TV because isn't he the glue that got half their side to the club (plus the wad of cash would of helped).

Would be good enough if he gives it the full commitment IMHO.

Apparently John Cahill was pretty keen to get him to South Adelaide prior to the start of last season.

[Keepitreal]

Hey Cougar how has my old mate Paul Collyer been travelling for the brookers this season?

Yeh, I'd be very interested in your personal and game day observations / opinion

[Cougar]

Hey Cougar how has my old mate Paul Collyer been travelling for the brookers this season?

Been Playing on the wing and down back for the As this season after playing in the B grade flag last year. Should be in the ones this week against Echunga down at Kangarilla for the Hills Country Qualifying Final.

And yes RB, he'll be fronting up your Bulls CC this season

[Living the Dream]

Rumour has it that Luke Slattery is heading back to town again next year to give it another go. What would that mean for TV because isn't he the glue that got half their side to the club (plus the wad of cash would of helped).

Would be good enough if he gives it the full commitment IMHO.

Apparently John Cahill was pretty keen to get him to South Adelaide prior to the start of last season.

Lets get one thing straight. Slattery is a gun and could make it if he wanted to

Why don't the HFL just stick TV in Hills Central and get it over and done with

[aceman]

Rumour has it that Luke Slattery is heading back to town again next year to give it another go. What would that mean for TV because isn't he the glue that got half their side to the club (plus the wad of cash would of helped).

Would be good enough if he gives it the full commitment IMHO.

Apparently John Cahill was pretty keen to get him to South Adelaide prior to the start of last season.

Lets get one thing straight. Slattery is a gun and could make it if he wanted to

Why don't the HFL just stick TV in Hills Central and get it over and done with

Because it's a bit like SACA, a 'boys club" and to change things is far too dramatic a step for them, sh*t that would actually mean they might have to make a decision. What a stupid thought!
By the time a club wants to go up and goes through all the constitutional crap, it's way too late. Their gun players are going to the Post Office to draw on their pension and the 10 year "window of opportunity" has been closed permanently.
They can't do anything in a hurry, that's what it's like up that way.

[aceman]

Rumour has it that Luke Slattery is heading back to town again next year to give it another go. What would that mean for TV because isn't he the glue that got half their side to the club (plus the wad of cash would of helped).

Would be good enough if he gives it the full commitment IMHO.

Apparently John Cahill was pretty keen to get him to South Adelaide prior to the start of last season.

Lets get one thing straight. Slattery is a gun and could make it if he wanted to

Why don't the HFL just stick TV in Hills Central and get it over and done with

Yes he is, but a very lazy one! Maybe just a "pop gun"!

[The Gimp]

Rumour has it that Luke Slattery is heading back to town again next year to give it another go. What would that mean for TV because isn't he the glue that got half their side to the club (plus the wad of cash would of helped).

Would be good enough if he gives it the full commitment IMHO.

Apparently John Cahill was pretty keen to get him to South Adelaide prior to the start of last season.

Lets get one thing straight. Slattery is a gun and could make it if he wanted to

Why don't the HFL just stick TV in Hills Central and get it over and done with

Because it's a bit like SACA, a 'boys club" and to change things is far too dramatic a step for them, sh*t that would actually mean they might have to make a decision. What a stupid thought!
By the time a club wants to go up and goes through all the constitutional crap, it's way too late. Their gun players are going to the Post Office to draw on their pension and the 10 year "window of opportunity" has been closed permanently.
They can't do anything in a hurry, that's what it's like up that way.

Aceman, try and comment on things you actually know about. The decision isn't the HFL Board's, it's the member clubs decision. It wouldn't make sense to change a two div system with 10 and 9 teams to a system with 11 and 8 (which could go to 7 if Cally fold) just because a club with false economy decides 6 weeks ago that they want to play in div 1 otherwise they are going to lose most of their good players.

The by-laws are in place so that so that a club gives itself time to plan for a move like that as well as giving other clubs in both divs time to also plan for the change.

If the TV committee didn't have the brains to plan for a situation like this to arise then they can wait and go through the due process just like other club have/would have to.

A boys club has nothing to do with it.

[aceman]

I am, and can I suggest that if the board were serious about it happening, they could put forward to clubs as a 'recommendation' that promotion/relegation becomes an agenda item at the AGM or club X should be promoted to the higher division or whatever in the same manner.
Continual "head in the sand" mentalities only hold the league back, maybe next year or the year after if Loby or Bridgy's hit the wall even more than they have this season, they might realise that it's time.
Blind Freddy can see it, why can't you?


Incidentally, constitutions can be amended/changed to suit the circumstances of the present era, doesn't take a lot to do it either. Just a little bit of foresight, that's all!

[Kick'n Back]

what was the verdict with the gum guys at the tribunal this week?

[The Gimp]

I am, and can I suggest that if the board were serious about it happening, they could put forward to clubs as a 'recommendation' that promotion/relegation becomes an agenda item at the AGM or club X should be promoted to the higher division or whatever in the same manner.
Continual "head in the sand" mentalities only hold the league back, maybe next year or the year after if Loby or Bridgy's hit the wall even more than they have this season, they might realise that it's time.
Blind Freddy can see it, why can't you?


Incidentally, constitutions can be amended/changed to suit the circumstances of the present era, doesn't take a lot to do it either. Just a little bit of foresight, that's all!

If you did know about the issue like you think you did, than you would know that the HFL have asked the clubs for any submissions on a plan for promotion/relegation so that the board can then take these ideas and make some proposals to the clubs so they can make a decision on it later this year.
So perhaps you should get to know a leagues issues and the steps being taken to rectify them before you sprouting off like you know all the answers to the football worlds problems.