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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby cje » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:14 am

birdman ptr is absolutley correct we as a club seem to accept defeat far too easily its time to become ruthless correction its well past time it shouldve happened 40 years ago.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:26 am

Thought Coad, Sheedy and Bode were good the Sturt, and Bowen, what a huge effort.

It was one of those games where you expect any minute for the Bays to just click into gear and run away with it by 5 goals.

Was it won Norman v Mickan? Manufacturing a couple of goals through Sheedy in the second quarter rather than resting on the bench. Also, leaving out Kurtze proved an excellent move given the conditions. Did the Bays go in too tall with Cranston, Sellar, Button, Mills, Kirk, Kirkby?
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby Whitelinefever » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:42 am

Congratulations to Sturt,I feel that after the effort they showed yesterday that the Granny is going to be a real tough close affair.
Interesting point you make flyinghigh,I was thinking the same last week,with all the tall timber the bays have,once the game got ,into a series of pack situations where a lot of ball had to be won at ground level,and hanballs and quick accurate disposal became important,some of the Bays tall timber became way less efficient,and Centrals runners started to have more of an impact,same yesterday for Sturt.
The Bays have been and are a great side, but maybe another quick crumbing goal kicking forward/follower would of been handy .
Reckon they really missed out when Douglas declared himself unavailable,and also the absence of Hinge.
Was a great day in the box for Luke Norman and the Sturt brain trust,going in with an extra midfield running type,and moving Sheedy forward like that.
Covered the loss of Chambers ,by thinking outside the square,instead of throwing in another tall,backed weight of numbers in midfield running power.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:47 am

TaurusSirius wrote:Feel for you, Bays fans, there's no nice way of going out in straight sets. 1979 is still seared into my memory after thirty years, and the margins then were 25 and 16 points if I remember rightly. To lose both by less than a goal...no one deserves that. Except Port.


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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby phantom57 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:48 am

A fantastic fighting effort by the Sturt Football Club......the spirit of 76 is alive and well .....bring on the Dogs !!
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:52 am

First of all commiserations to Glenelg, I've got lots of Bays supporters as friends, and it's pretty hard to cop what happened yesterday and this season. Expectations can be very dangerous. As I mentioned in the preview, it's a very tough deal playing in finals with Centrals dominating for the last 10 years and you just can't waltz in and expect flags after a few years of being highly competitive. Sturt and many other teams, mainly Eagles, have worked extremely hard to keep having a crack at Centrals and it's come with alot of heartache and disappointment, such is the way. Now the true test of the Glenelg FC is upon them, how do they bounce back from this and remain highly competitive for an ongoing period of time, I hope they do and I'm sure they will.
Secondly, to those Glenelg supporters that held onto the "Bitch" tag like their first baby blanky or their first dummy for so long, you can have it, I hope you got alot out of it, I hope you felt a sense of achievement with it.
I have never seen a more inspiring team effort in a game of football as I did yesterday from the Sturt FC, everyone should be very proud. I went to the game confident until I found out Kurtze was out, then I couldn't see how we could win such is Glenelgs centre clearances dominance, I was also unsure about Nelsons inclusion. Halfway through the 1st I thought, "train wreck", but to stabilize the game before 1/4 time showed some poise. Great way to get the monkey off the back, great way to win another high pressure final, great against all odds victory.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby the joker » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:58 am

I feel for the Tigers supporters, with a qtr to go in the second Semi you were straight in the GF, but to go 20 games and only losing two and then losing two straight finals. thats a choke. i didnt give Sturt a chance in hell yesterday.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby birdmanptr » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:20 am

cje wrote:birdman ptr is absolutley correct we as a club seem to accept defeat far too easily its time to become ruthless correction its well past time it shouldve happened 40 years ago.


Last year you could put it down to a learning curve not having finals experinice and so on.However another year under our belt better placed than last year all grades in the finals better for last year and just about a full list.

We new for a long time we were going to play finals so no stone should have been left unturned in the preperation better placed then never before to have a RED HOT CRACK at a flag

This was a danger game for us before my good mates car started to leave the ground after the 2nd semi and the bad news is IF we make the finals next year the challange will be harder than 08 09 combined.In fact the whole of 2010 will be one of the hardest in the clubs history.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby SnappyTom » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:27 am

I'd suggest those using the 'c' word must have as much 'knowledge of the game' as Jimmy does 'vision of games from NYC'.

Congratulations to Sturt. Their desire (especially after the first scoreless quarter) to win the match was undeniable.

My take on what was a great contest - best team won, best side lost. And by best side, best side of any of the nine going around this season. From my perspective Sturt had a hunger that the bays didn't. Stuck to their guns, and really fought it right out.

I'm not sure if Football Gods exist, but the Bays were bitten by them in both the SSF and PF. In the final quarter of each game (when leading) they hit the post from awkward angles that, in all reality, would have won the games in question. Backwell (as much as I hate the way he stages for frees) is a talent, and he was stiff* not to get that goal as the game approached time on. If it weren't for modern day fat padding it might well have squeaked in, and the Bays out to a 6 point lead (then contested ball in the centre).

Five terrific tight SANFL finals games thus far. FWIW the Bays are not chokers, they were outplayed with a skill that some don't regard highly enough - pressure.

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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby SnappyTom » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:30 am

the joker wrote:I feel for the Tigers supporters, with a qtr to go in the second Semi you were straight in the GF, but to go 20 games and only losing two and then losing two straight finals. thats a choke. i didnt give Sturt a chance in hell yesterday.


Does make you wonder what the H&A games really constitute.

Of the three top sides (as at now):
Centrals P6 4-1-1
Sturt P7 2-0-5
Glenelg P7 3-1-3

I'm not sure how much the 17-1-2 in the regular season really means. And as another poster mentioned earlier in the week, I'm not even sure if top spot 'matters' at all any more.

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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby JK » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:36 am

SnappyTom wrote:I'd suggest those using the 'c' word must have as much 'knowledge of the game' as Jimmy does 'vision of games from NYC'.

Congratulations to Sturt. Their desire (especially after the first scoreless quarter) to win the match was undeniable.

My take on what was a great contest - best team won, best side lost. And by best side, best side of any of the nine going around this season. From my perspective Sturt had a hunger that the bays didn't. Stuck to their guns, and really fought it right out.

I'm not sure if Football Gods exist, but the Bays were bitten by them in both the SSF and PF. In the final quarter of each game (when leading) they hit the post from awkward angles that, in all reality, would have won the games in question. Backwell (as much as I hate the way he stages for frees) is a talent, and he was stiff* not to get that goal as the game approached time on. If it weren't for modern day fat padding it might well have squeaked in, and the Bays out to a 6 point lead (then contested ball in the centre).

Five terrific tight SANFL finals games thus far. FWIW the Bays are not chokers, they were outplayed with a skill that some don't regard highly enough - pressure.

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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:41 am

SnappyTom wrote:
the joker wrote:I feel for the Tigers supporters, with a qtr to go in the second Semi you were straight in the GF, but to go 20 games and only losing two and then losing two straight finals. thats a choke. i didnt give Sturt a chance in hell yesterday.


Does make you wonder what the H&A games really constitute.

Of the three top sides (as at now):
Centrals P6 4-1-1
Sturt P7 2-0-5
Glenelg P7 3-1-3

I'm not sure how much the 17-1-2 in the regular season really means. And as another poster mentioned earlier in the week, I'm not even sure if top spot 'matters' at all any more.

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But for a single kick, we could be talking in a very different manner...

This year the top three teams have been a class above the rest of the competition. While there were two blow out games between these sides, I think we all knew that the finals would prove to be hard fought affairs... (Maybe not quite as close as they have been though...)
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby birdmanptr » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:43 am

SnappyTom wrote:
the joker wrote:I feel for the Tigers supporters, with a qtr to go in the second Semi you were straight in the GF, but to go 20 games and only losing two and then losing two straight finals. thats a choke. i didnt give Sturt a chance in hell yesterday.


Does make you wonder what the H&A games really constitute.

Of the three top sides (as at now):
Centrals P6 4-1-1
Sturt P7 2-0-5
Glenelg P7 3-1-3

I'm not sure how much the 17-1-2 in the regular season really means. And as another poster mentioned earlier in the week, I'm not even sure if top spot 'matters' at all any more.

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Once the finals start the minor round means 2 parts of F all. Whole new ball game the mentally tough rise to the top the ones who cant adjust fall away.The ones who learn nothing from previous years just curl up roll over and play dead.Once the finals start its all between the years very hard to get that feeling and once you have it you never lose it Central District Football Club case in point
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby Macca19 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:45 am

Incredible result. Of course Glenelg fans can be proud of how their team has played this year, but going out in straight sets after not losing a match since Round 5 should be seen as unacceptable. Im not sure how you can breed or demand success when results such as this are seen as ok. Do feel for the Tigers fans on here. They deserve better.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby birdmanptr » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:57 am

Macca19 wrote:Incredible result. Of course Glenelg fans can be proud of how their team has played this year, but going out in straight sets after not losing a match since Round 5 should be seen as unacceptable. Im not sure how you can breed or demand success when results such as this are seen as ok. Do feel for the Tigers fans on here. They deserve better.


You cant and you wont get success when this is always regarded as nice try you gave your all oh well theres always next year BS

Like i have said else where we used to have black and white fright now we have blue white and red fright.Looks like Mickan and Craig are very much the same very capable during the minor round but when it comes time for finals and a whole new ball game they are not up to it.What gets you through the winter aint going to work in the spring

We do deserve better but its up to us what we get no one is going to give it to us
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby wycbloods » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:58 am

Bad kicking is bad football. The bays only have themselves to blame for this loss. Well done to the blues for hanging on in there and making the most of their opportunities.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby Ronnie » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:00 pm

Perhaps this may be a trivial point but would some of the Glenelg players be better off not trying to milk every free kick they can get at every contest? some are worse than others but as a spectator i find a feature of Glenelg is that a number of them like to take a dive or 'duck the chutney' like there is no tomorrow. I thought generally though the umpires, at least in the second half refused to get sucked in.

While the 2009 finals series would be shattering for Glenelg i can't see them falling away in a hurry. Plenty of talent through the grades, some of their u18s are brilliant. Metcalf and co do a very good job and have a stable set up down there. Mickan may have lost his golden glow but i think is fairly solid in his job, more a case of his players failing to execute when it really matters which has been a bit surprising.
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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby zipzap » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:11 pm

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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby Barto » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:19 pm

zipzap wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qa_OAXyZXc


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Re: Sturt vs Glenelg Preliminary Final Review

Postby SnappyTom » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:23 pm

zipzap wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qa_OAXyZXc


The Ben Kane kick to Kirk the killer; it was the fifth attempted short pass from the kick-in uncontested (but this time, to the centre of the ground)!! Great pass a couple of minutes into time on (ending the turnover play) from Coad, big boot to Jaensch. And great work from Jaensch to make the space and lead from probably near the 50 arc towards the top of the goal square.

I reckon the ABC commentary in that last quarter (in fact, all finals series) has been excellent (on watching recorded replays)...

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