North sack Daniel Hargraves

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Postby Booney » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:44 pm

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Booney wrote:Must have put the fear of God into him with either that mask,or the guns sticking out the jumper in that avater Wedgeman! :wink:

You mispelt guts Booney. :wink:


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Postby Mickyj » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:46 pm

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Good on Adam for taking his chance and playing in a winning side but be serious,was he the difference from the past years to this year as to why the Eagles first finshed minor premiers and then won the flag. If he is that great why isn't he in the AFL?


Well most of the year the answer to your question would have been no .But there were times during the year where having a player like Adam was worth the effort of bringing him to woodville,the norwood game at the parade was a good example of him being worth it .
And do not forget that he would take a tall defender away from the likes of passador or the resting ruckman !!
And he also didnt appear to take crap from the backmen or gave as good as he got .

If he is that great why isn't he in the AFL?[/quote]
This could apply to any number of unlucky players in the sanfl , those that have been on rookie lists and delisted or played a handful of afl games and then not required due to the fact that your team has drafted too many of the same types of players.
Or if you are really unlucky to be a rookie at the power they have been known do delist all their rookies at once its cheaper than the main team.
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Postby fester69 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:06 pm

Apology read and accepted!
Not a veiled public threat as I will defend my "shitty club" any day!
Yes I was angry at the time, not that you misunderstood what I said about Hargreaves but the "shitty" reference.
I too am very easy to find at the footy.
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Postby The Whisper » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:18 pm

Hargraves has had more formal talks with one club, and a brief chat with a couple of others, but realistically, very unlikely he will be in the SANFL system next year.

Some players are very serviceable at second and even third clubs, but I would imagine most would prefer to be one club players. Would like to think he may be one of them.
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:39 pm

While most people are surprised by Hargs DCM, someone has informed me he was looking at country coaching jobs beforehand. Suggests he knew something was up....
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Postby TroyGFC » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:37 am

sEEN him down at glenelg.
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Postby Rooster Chic » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:40 pm

topsywaldron

Wasn't there a North reserves player who was told his services weren't wanted at the end of the 2005 season but then had an exorbitant price tag put on his head when Norwood wanted to recruit him? Finished up out of the SANFL system I think. Like Hargraves will.

Geez those guys at Prospect do a good job for the amateur comp.


Sorry this is a little delayed but that was Cameron Staples, never got to play for norwood cos they couldnt afford the price of about 10-15k North were putting out... knowing cameron it just wasnt good enough North Adelaide!!!
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Postby Wedgie » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:52 pm

Rooster Chic wrote:Sorry this is a little delayed but that was Cameron Staples, never got to play for norwood cos they couldnt afford the price of about 10-15k North were putting out... knowing cameron it just wasnt good enough North Adelaide!!!

I agree its rough but you'll find that is in direct retaliation to transfer fees being asked of North in the early 2000s right up till 2005. It seems some of the clubs have no problem offering ridiculous prices for players to transfer out but squeal like bushpigs when they get a bit of payback.
Of course the main loser in all of this is the player.
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Postby Rooster Chic » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:59 pm

i know when matt down was transferred mid season from norwood to North the asking price was only approx $1500 now what is the difference between Down and Staples? Is it a $10,000 difference, i think not!
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Postby Wedgie » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:16 pm

Rooster Chic wrote:i know when matt down was transferred mid season from norwood to North the asking price was only approx $1500 now what is the difference between Down and Staples? Is it a $10,000 difference, i think not!


Wedgie wrote:I agree its rough but you'll find that is in direct retaliation to transfer fees being asked of North in the early 2000s right up till 2005.


Its got nothing to do with Matt Down or aa transfer made mid season, I thought I made that clear.
Also I think you'll find the current financial situation of the 2 repsective clubs you mentioned may have something to do with their policies, ironically it was reversed not that long ago.
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Postby Rooster Chic » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:31 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Rooster Chic wrote:i know when matt down was transferred mid season from norwood to North the asking price was only approx $1500 now what is the difference between Down and Staples? Is it a $10,000 difference, i think not!


Wedgie wrote:I agree its rough but you'll find that is in direct retaliation to transfer fees being asked of North in the early 2000s right up till 2005.


Its got nothing to do with Matt Down or aa transfer made mid season, I thought I made that clear.
Also I think you'll find the current financial situation of the 2 repsective clubs you mentioned may have something to do with their policies, ironically it was reversed not that long ago.


Fair enough. Back to the topic at hand... Agree with most other posters' thoguhts, Hargs will end up out of the SANFL system. Will end up playing country footy I do believe.
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Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:05 pm

I'm not in the know or anything, but I would think he would make a big impact at Amateur League (Div 1) level....
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Postby topsywaldron » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:25 pm

Wedgie wrote:Also I think you'll find the current financial situation of the 2 repsective clubs you mentioned may have something to do with their policies


Are you saying here that it's North's policy to try and charge the poorer clubs more for player transfers? Would seem to be poor form I would have thought if true.
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Postby Wedgie » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:07 am

topsywaldron wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Also I think you'll find the current financial situation of the 2 repsective clubs you mentioned may have something to do with their policies


Are you saying here that it's North's policy to try and charge the poorer clubs more for player transfers? Would seem to be poor form I would have thought if true.


No, its North's policy to reciprocate the same treatment it received from some clubs when trying to get clearances for players unwanted at those clubs.
If those club's involved don't like it they only have themselves to blame.
Definately poor form started by the "other" clubs in the past, agreed.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:24 am

Wedgie wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Also I think you'll find the current financial situation of the 2 repsective clubs you mentioned may have something to do with their policies


Are you saying here that it's North's policy to try and charge the poorer clubs more for player transfers? Would seem to be poor form I would have thought if true.


No, its North's policy to reciprocate the same treatment it received from some clubs when trying to get clearances for players unwanted at those clubs.
If those club's involved don't like it they only have themselves to blame.
Definately poor form started by the "other" clubs in the past, agreed.


Wedgie, you really need to get over this feeling that North are the only club who does anything right.
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Postby Wedgie » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:33 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Wedgie, you really need to get over this feeling that North are the only club who does anything right.

Never said North were doing the right thing, in fact I think its the wrong thing especially when it impacts on players so much, I was just explaining their reasoning as its been told to me, its not my opinion at all. I can understand why they do what they do and I was just explaining that to others as it was the topic of disucssion. You really do need to read my posts a bit closer mate before commenting or making (mainly wrong) assumptions, its a tad annoying.
If anyone raises a topic not knowing why a club does what it does and I know the reasoning I'll pass that on. I certainly don't apologise for that.
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Postby topsywaldron » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:03 am

I'd love to know which Norwood players we tried to offload at inflated prices. Paul James maybe? :D
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Postby ca » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:59 am

topsywaldron wrote:I'd love to know which Norwood players we tried to offload at inflated prices. Paul James maybe? :D


Kane McLean perhaps.
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Postby Squawk » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:28 am

Maybe it should be an independent "Player Transfer Committee" that established fair transfer prices rather than the clubs making ambit demands.

In any event, If Hargreaves isn't wanted by North, wouldn't it be better for North to get $5000 for him than get nothing for him because the North fee is $25000 and he ends up playing non-SANFL footy? This would also improve things from a players perspective as well I would have thought.

Not sure why a club feels that it has to "pay back" other clubs for past disagreements on transfer prices. 2000 is a long way back if that's the first year of their angry memories.

Is it just me, or do others have a feeling that North is prone to living in the past when it comes to making decisions now when their overall situation (and full credit to them for the turnaround) has lifted dramatically on and off field? Everything at North always seems to have a "pay back" element hidden away there somewhere.

In business, there is a time and a place for 'pay backs' and to get $5000 rather than nothing would be seen to be a sound commercial approach in this instance I would have thought. If you have a product you dont want anymore and ask $25000 from buyers who all say no, and you have valued it at $0 because you no longer want it in your life, wouldn't $5,000 be better than nothing?
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Postby Punk Rooster » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:36 am

It is my belief that North are willing to clear Daniel to any other league free of charge, & it's only the SANFL they will require that the 25K transfer fee be met- which is worked on a formula set by the SANFL.
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