3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby redandblack » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:09 am

I haven't seen the Watto thing yet, but there was a time when there were no match referees and 99.9% of players went through their career without ever needing disciplinary action.

All players should read the preamble to the rules and if they transgress more than once, they should lose 100% of their match fee and be suspended for games.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:29 am

redandblack wrote:I haven't seen the Watto thing yet, but there was a time when there were no match referees and 99.9% of players went through their career without ever needing disciplinary action.

All players should read the preamble to the rules and if they transgress more than once, they should lose 100% of their match fee and be suspended for games.


I agree with your sentiments, although 100% fine for a professional sportsman would never be tolerated.

Sadly, the days of which you speak are long gone. We live in a more aggressive and less disciplined society these days, and sport is merely a part of society. I also recall playing at a time when, as a bowler, I never appealled unless I honestly thought a batsman was out. These days they appeal for anything, and it's damned annoying, not to mention distasteful.

Haddin must have shocking eyesight if he honestly thinks some of the things he appeals for is out, and for the West Indies to appeal for a catch when Ponting got stuck is totally unacceptable behaviour in my book.

I would almost welcome a frivolous appeal rule, where if the umpires determined an appeal was just totally ridiculous, they would award 10 runs to sundries for the batting team. That would quieten the chatter-boxes down.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:30 am

jackpot jim wrote:Even tho Aust look like winning, MAL was right.
Aust 1 - 0 up in the series.
Only 1/2 way thru day 2 with fine weather forecast.
Ponting Surely would have thought Aust would have a 2nd Inngs
SO, the question remains,
Why did he declare??????
Aust bowled out for a WOEFUL 150 in the 2nd Inngs, Obviously well short of what he would have liked to have set the Windies.
IF the Windies happen to fluke the last 50 odd runs and win, it will go down as one the biggest blunders of all time, losing a test after only losing 17 wickets.
Could understand the declaration if Aust were 0 - 1 down or 1 - 1 going into the test to ensure time to win .

My prediction - Aust to win series 2 - 0

My Ratings - Aust 5.5/10 barely a pass. Windies 7/10 Very creditable performance after 1st test flogging.

Ratings based on consideration to their current Test ranking.

BUT, IF the windies were to pull off a miracle win, well, well, well, Ponting may very well be asked to give the job away.


Maybe you can take a break from your Aussies bashing to have a real look at what has happened in this match. It is not the declaration that was woeful, but Australia's second innings. If the West Indies get the runs it doesn't go down as a tactical blunder by the captain but just plain old bad batting.

We aren't as good as we used to be and there a lot of posters on this site that need to get over it. Our test ranking is what, four at the moment so your ratings a bogus.

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby locky801 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:41 am

I have one of those feelings this morning that the Windies may in fact get these runs, REB you make a good point re the rankings and the current Aust side, all in all though, I think this has been a magnificent game of test cricket, even if it will unfortunatelty only probably be remembered for the bad things that has occurred. One things for sure, I wont forget Gayles master blaster 1st innings dig in a long long time
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby The Cadet » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:45 am

Who will come in for Ponting If he dosnt come up
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:54 am

The Cadet wrote:Who will come in for Ponting If he dosnt come up


Rogers with Watto to slide into the number 3 spot.

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby mal » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:05 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Even tho Aust look like winning, MAL was right.
Aust 1 - 0 up in the series.
Only 1/2 way thru day 2 with fine weather forecast.
Ponting Surely would have thought Aust would have a 2nd Inngs
SO, the question remains,
Why did he declare??????
Aust bowled out for a WOEFUL 150 in the 2nd Inngs, Obviously well short of what he would have liked to have set the Windies.
IF the Windies happen to fluke the last 50 odd runs and win, it will go down as one the biggest blunders of all time, losing a test after only losing 17 wickets.
Could understand the declaration if Aust were 0 - 1 down or 1 - 1 going into the test to ensure time to win .

My prediction - Aust to win series 2 - 0

My Ratings - Aust 5.5/10 barely a pass. Windies 7/10 Very creditable performance after 1st test flogging.

Ratings based on consideration to their current Test ranking.

BUT, IF the windies were to pull off a miracle win, well, well, well, Ponting may very well be asked to give the job away.


Maybe you can take a break from your Aussies bashing to have a real look at what has happened in this match. It is not the declaration that was woeful, but Australia's second innings. If the West Indies get the runs it doesn't go down as a tactical blunder by the captain but just plain old bad batting.

We aren't as good as we used to be and there a lot of posters on this site that need to get over it. Our test ranking is what, four at the moment so your ratings a bogus.

regards,

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You mention our woeful 2nd innings
All the more reason to bat longer in the first digs when you have the opposition on the ropes
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby mal » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:12 am

redandblack wrote:I haven't seen the Watto thing yet, but there was a time when there were no match referees and 99.9% of players went through their career without ever needing disciplinary action.

All players should read the preamble to the rules and if they transgress more than once, they should lose 100% of their match fee and be suspended for games.



I have not seen the incident either
I dont know if I wanna see it as well
I can imagine it though

Recent on feild success in the Test arena does not make it permissable to send off an opponent

It happened to me in a final in the 90s
I made 15 , from the time I got out to the time I was half way off the oval, I was subjected to a a disgusting and very personal verbal spray
It was one of the lowest dispicable things Ive ever experienced on a cricket field
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby jackpot jim » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:13 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Even tho Aust look like winning, MAL was right.
Aust 1 - 0 up in the series.
Only 1/2 way thru day 2 with fine weather forecast.
Ponting Surely would have thought Aust would have a 2nd Inngs
SO, the question remains,
Why did he declare??????
Aust bowled out for a WOEFUL 150 in the 2nd Inngs, Obviously well short of what he would have liked to have set the Windies.
IF the Windies happen to fluke the last 50 odd runs and win, it will go down as one the biggest blunders of all time, losing a test after only losing 17 wickets.
Could understand the declaration if Aust were 0 - 1 down or 1 - 1 going into the test to ensure time to win .

My prediction - Aust to win series 2 - 0

My Ratings - Aust 5.5/10 barely a pass. Windies 7/10 Very creditable performance after 1st test flogging.

Ratings based on consideration to their current Test ranking.

BUT, IF the windies were to pull off a miracle win, well, well, well, Ponting may very well be asked to give the job away.


Maybe you can take a break from your Aussies bashing to have a real look at what has happened in this match. It is not the declaration that was woeful, but Australia's second innings. If the West Indies get the runs it doesn't go down as a tactical blunder by the captain but just plain old bad batting.

We aren't as good as we used to be and there a lot of posters on this site that need to get over it. Our test ranking is what, four at the moment so your ratings a bogus.

regards,

REB


West Indies have only WON a couple of Test matches in recent YEARS, the current squad only reformed from a 6 month dispute in the weeks leading up to the series whilst Australia, whilst NOT as dominant as they once were, have still had very solid form over this period and anything other than a dominant 3 - 0 drubbing of the Windies in this series would have been well below their expectations hence my moderate rating of 5.5/10.
Just my opinion. ;)
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby cripple » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:27 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
The Cadet wrote:Who will come in for Ponting If he dosnt come up


Rogers with Watto to slide into the number 3 spot.

regards,

REB


Hughes, Khawja, Henriques.... who else has scored more then 5 runs for NSW lately
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Pup » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:42 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Maybe you can take a break from your Aussies bashing to have a real look at what has happened in this match. It is not the declaration that was woeful, but Australia's second innings. If the West Indies get the runs it doesn't go down as a tactical blunder by the captain but just plain old bad batting.

We aren't as good as we used to be and there a lot of posters on this site that need to get over it. Our test ranking is what, four at the moment so your ratings a bogus.

regards,

REB


Spot on.

Has nothing to do with the first innings declaration and to be honest i had no problem with Ponting declaring when he did, It all comes down to the second innings and our poor poor batting.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Aerie » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:01 am

Sounds like Ponting may miss the Boxing Day Test. Poor old Hodge, just wasn't meant to be... :lol:
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Thiele » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:59 am

Watto hit with a fine
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Dogwatcher » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:51 pm

51 runs ain't too many. Would love to see them take right to the end...but I think the Windies probably need another wicket in hand to win though.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:55 pm

mal wrote:I have not seen the incident either
I dont know if I wanna see it as well
I can imagine it though

Recent on feild success in the Test arena does not make it permissable to send off an opponent

It happened to me in a final in the 90s
I made 15 , from the time I got out to the time I was half way off the oval, I was subjected to a a disgusting and very personal verbal spray
It was one of the lowest dispicable things Ive ever experienced on a cricket field


I don't know if Watson actually said anything, he possibly did, it was more of an over-the-top celebration with Watson going off his nut. Be happy by all means, but this was something else.

To me, it shows a lack of respect to the batsman, just as the West Indies had done with Ponting the night before. You've got a wicket, a couple of hgh fves will suffice, not all this jumping around and screaming at the top of your lungs, it's crap.

Ive said it a number of times already, not only should Watto have been fined, he should have been made to apologise to Gayle. Not on.

Giving a dismissed batsman a spray is one of the weakest things in cricket. The batsman's out, he can't do any more than get off the ground. I played in a different era, but I'm proud of the fact I never reminded a batsman where the change rooms are. If I had anything to say to a batsman, it was when the contest was still on, and the batsman was still able to belt me out of the park.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby locky801 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:02 pm

Windies survive the first over :D
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby locky801 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:08 pm

Windies 9/317


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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby locky801 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:13 pm

36 to get

Roach 17*

Tonge 23*

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby locky801 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:17 pm

Roach caught behind, has been referred Australians Celebrating wildly, no sign of hot spot on the bat, and the decision is OUT, DEAR OH DEAR

Australia win by 35 runs, this referral stuff is a bloody joke :roll: :roll:
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby cripple » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:18 pm

australia wins the series and the windies win a lot of respect (maybe not benn ;) ) very good example of test cricket
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