A pleasant surprise

[mighty_tiger_79]

Magpie
If I found less than $100 I would keep it
If I found a package or purse or a calico bag or a suit case with thousands I would like to think I would return it
But when Im that situation what a temptation it would be to keep it

invest it on a LATE MAL and keep the profits

[The Apostle]

My Dad used to be a bus driver for TransAdelaide and back in the early 1990's he found a brown paper bag filled with cash one day on the bus. He opened it up and it was full of 20s, 50s and 100's (mostly the last 2). He reckoned it was half an inch thick and would of had atleast $2000 to $3000 in it.

[Gozu]

But, in my dealings with them professionally they have always put their work to assist people before seeking conversions.

In your experience sure but it's not why they exist. Others have had bad experiences with them in the past especially their Employment Plus job network arm which got busted fudging their books by rorting $9 million of tax-payers money under John Howard's job network rort: http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/conten ... 604688.htm

Their first order of business is to try and convert people to Christianity and then watch the money roll in:

"The Salvos raised a record $53 million in last year's Red Shield appeal, but few donors would appreciate that they are Australia's fourth biggest church with 2004 revenues of $625 million."

http://www.maynereport.com/articles/200 ... -5450.html

The Salvation Army's stated objectives are:

The advancement of the Christian religion as promulgated in the religious doctrines—which are professed, believed and taught by the Army and, pursuant there to, the advancement of education, the relief of poverty, and other charitable objects beneficial to society or the community of mankind as a whole.

What do you know the Salvos were on the news tonight crying foul about people dumping rubbish outside their joints (the stuff they can't make money on) and had the audacity to say that it will cost around $6 million to clean it all up and that will mean their soup kitchen customers will suffer. What absolute pigs to even say that BS on TV. This from a corporation that turns over hundreds of millions of dollars every year all tax free too. I stumbled across this piece about the Salvos tonight too:

"The Salvation Army: It gets worse":

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 5402.shtml

[Psyber]

What do you know the Salvos were on the news tonight crying foul about people dumping rubbish outside their joints (the stuff they can't make money on) and had the audacity to say that it will cost around $6 million to clean it all up and that will mean their soup kitchen customers will suffer. What absolute pigs to even say that BS on TV. This from a corporation that turns over hundreds of millions of dollars every year all tax free too. I stumbled across this piece about the Salvos tonight too:

"The Salvation Army: It gets worse":

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 5402.shtml

Again old boy, I'm not biased by religious faith because I have none, although my parents were in the Salvos before I was born, and I admit I had some acquaintance with them in childhood.
That article does not describe the organisation I had considerable dealings with in my work in state hospitals in SA before I went to Melbourne - particularly in Geriatrics..
I've never seen any evidence of such behaviour, and struggling people of many backgrounds have always seen the Salvos in positive terms for their "no-strings" helpfulness.
I guess if you troll the Internet for long enough you'll always find obscure sites to confirm your personal dogma.

Dumping stuff you know is rubbish in charity bins, rather than taking it too the dump, is one of the lowest and meanest behaviours possible - all the charities get it - but the Salvos are one of the biggest so the costs it causes really add up. I was talking to some guys collecting from the bins for another organisation, recently, at a shopping centre. and they said it often spoils otherwise good stuff well meaning people have donated. They even get dirty nappies in the bins.

[Big Phil]

My now wife saying 'tak' when I proposed to her...

'Tak' is 'yes' in Polish, thank god for that

[Bum Crack]

Meeting Booney last night and realising that he is as fat as I am and even uglier

[Footy Chick]

Meeting Booney last night and realising that he is as fat as I am and even uglier

[Gozu]

Again old boy, I'm not biased by religious faith because I have none, although my parents were in the Salvos before I was born, and I admit I had some acquaintance with them in childhood.
That article does not describe the organisation I had considerable dealings with in my work in state hospitals in SA before I went to Melbourne - particularly in Geriatrics..
I've never seen any evidence of such behaviour, and struggling people of many backgrounds have always seen the Salvos in positive terms for their "no-strings" helpfulness.
I guess if you troll the Internet for long enough you'll always find obscure sites to confirm your personal dogma.

Dumping stuff you know is rubbish in charity bins, rather than taking it too the dump, is one of the lowest and meanest behaviours possible - all the charities get it - but the Salvos are one of the biggest so the costs it causes really add up. I was talking to some guys collecting from the bins for another organisation, recently, at a shopping centre. and they said it often spoils otherwise good stuff well meaning people have donated. They even get dirty nappies in the bins.

Psyber, I didn't mean to include your quote too. I did a general search of the forum to try and find where my Salvo's rant was as I wanted to include that Mayne report info with that post. That's all. btw I totally agree that dumping rubbish there is disgraceful but they've got some cheek a) whinging about the cost to clean it up and b) their threats that it's soup kitchen customers will be the ones to suffer.

FYI, while you know all about trying to confirm personal dogma given your opposition to mainstream science I want to add that I did a generic search on NineMSN looking for the Salvo's story from last night only to find that piece at the top of the search query!

[Psyber]

Psyber, I didn't mean to include your quote too. I did a general search of the forum to try and find where my Salvo's rant was as I wanted to include that Mayne report info with that post. That's all. btw I totally agree that dumping rubbish there is disgraceful but they've got some cheek a) whinging about the cost to clean it up and b) their threats that it's soup kitchen customers will be the ones to suffer.

FYI, while you know all about trying to confirm personal dogma given your opposition to mainstream science I want to add that I did a generic search on NineMSN looking for the Salvo's story from last night only to find that piece at the top of the search query!

Fair enough on the accidental inclusion.
I'd be prepared to suggest "mainstream science" hardly ever gets it right - look at the Phlogiston theory, the idea abroad among mainstream "scientists" in the 19th century that a man couldn't breathe in a vehicle travelling faster than conventional transport, the idea once abroad that faster than sound travel was impossible - the list goes on....

We need to challenge "conventional science" which is what the "mainstream" is - that view generally held at the time.
Those who challenge conventional thinking should be welcomed as necessary stimulus, not burned at the stake for daring to question dogma.
We also need to be vigilant about the potential for "me to" behaviour in the pursuit of grants.
In a tight financial environment for research funding, adopting a popular line makes sense - and brings funding Dollars!

[Gozu]

You're a flat-earther Psyber plain and simple. I suggest the irony in being opposed to around 95% of the world's scientists and all those international governments at Copenhagen yet being in leagues with crackpots & charlatans who get their funding from the big oil & mining companies is lost on you. Once again you find yourself on the same side as the religious fundamentalists, good luck with your crusade.

[Psyber]

You're a flat-earther Psyber plain and simple. I suggest the irony in being opposed to around 95% of the world's scientists and all those international governments at Copenhagen yet being in leagues with crackpots & charlatans who get their funding from the big oil & mining companies is lost on you. Once again you find yourself on the same side as the religious fundamentalists, good luck with your crusade.

Have you ever considered discussing the issues rather than abusing those who oppose you, rather like a petulant child?
I don't call you, or the people and sources you refer to, abusive names when I disagree with you.
You are not only abusing me, as you have done on several occasions, but also serious scientists who challenge the hype of fashionable faith.
Nothing is proven beyond doubt in either direction in this debate.

Asserting one side of the climate change debate is right, and the other is "crackpots & charlatans who get their funding from the big oil & mining companies" demonstrates the impartiality of judgement and rational consideration one would expect of Fred Nile or Iain Paisley in a debate about more overtly religious dogma.

[Gozu]

Abused you? By calling you a flat-earther?

Happy New Year, Psyber!

[locky801]

Mine goes back many years, the old man took me to Alberton Oval to watch a Port/North game, family were one eyed Port barrackers and this was my first game of footy, anyway Port who were top (always were back then) got a flogging from North who were down near the bottom, anyway walking out the ground i found a ten pound note on the ground, promptly picked it up, put it in my pocket and told the old man that i was now a North barracker which didnt go down too well.

[Booney]

Meeting Booney last night and realising that he is as fat as I am and even uglier

That's hardly fair! I've got at least 10kg's on you...

[Rik E Boy]

Meeting Booney last night and realising that he is as fat as I am and even uglier

[Dog_ger]

Came out of the local shopping mall one late evening.

There was this woman putting her 2 crying kids into the car and drove off leaving her very thick purse on the boot lid.

Falling on the ground when she drove.

No one else in the car park.

Without hesitation, "Stupid Me" picks it up and chases the car, screaming out "HEY LADY".....

She stops winding her window down.

Dog_ger chucks it in....

I don't know if I would do that again...?

But things happen and you don't think.....

[locky801]

Came out of the local shopping mall one late evening.

There was this woman putting her 2 crying kids into the car and drove off leaving her very thick purse on the boot lid.

Falling on the ground when she drove.

No one else in the car park.

Without hesitation, "Stupid Me" picks it up and chases the car, screaming out "HEY LADY".....

She stops winding her window down.

Dog_ger chucks it in....

I don't know if I would do that again...?

But things happen and you don't think.....

Probably didnt have any money in it anyway

[A Mum]

Came out of the local shopping mall one late evening.

There was this woman putting her 2 crying kids into the car and drove off leaving her very thick purse on the boot lid.

Falling on the ground when she drove.

No one else in the car park.

Without hesitation, "Stupid Me" picks it up and chases the car, screaming out "HEY LADY".....

She stops winding her window down.

Dog_ger chucks it in....

I don't know if I would do that again...?

But things happen and you don't think.....

Of course you would do that again Dog_ger - it wasn't stupid - it was honesty,
And if you didn't even think twice to keep it,
Then I'd class you as a very good person

[Psyber]

Abused you? By calling you a flat-earther?
Happy New Year, Psyber!

Calling anybody any derisive name, however mild, instead of sticking to addressing the issues is resorting to abuse...
I don't care what you think about me, but I am appalled by your poor manners, and the way you treat anyone who dares to not think the way you do.

[Gozu]

Abused you? By calling you a flat-earther?
Happy New Year, Psyber!

Calling anybody any derisive name, however mild, instead of sticking to addressing the issues is resorting to abuse...
I don't care what you think about me, but I am appalled by your poor manners, and the way you treat anyone who dares to not think the way you do.

Funny I don't remember hearing too much out of you when Jimmy was "abusing" me? You're appalled by my poor manners? The old Ian Plimer defence, obfuscation. Turn it up. You're a contemptous individual Psyber and have your nose out of joint because someone bothered pulling you up on your arrogance & extreme beliefs. The fact you think you know more about climate change than climate scientists says it all really. Thankfully people such as yourself on the far-right fringe are an insignificant but noisy minority. I meant that happy NY's wish too, now consider it withdrawn.