Marcus North' replacement for the third test

[locky801]

I watched Clarke very closely today and he worked so so hard but at the moment he seems to be missing something.

Unfortunately, it's the ball.

I guess my worry about Clarke is he seems to be experiencing concentration problems. He gets into a stride and then begins hanging his bat outside off, or playing across the line to straight ones. People say he copped a good seed in the first innings, but he left too large a gap between bat and pad. I'm a Michael Clarke fan. I just think he really needs to work on his concentration, it's not the Clarke I'm used to.

Ponting's another issue. I guess every player gets to the stage when they are past their peak and heading towards the down slope. I fear Ponting has reached this stage, and if we are worrying about how to replace North, how are we ever going to replace Ponting? .. especially with Clarke struggling at the moment.

Perhaps throwing Clarke into the captaincy may be the best thing for him and the side, who knows, thing is when this side is on song they are unbeatable, but that only seems to be Test number 1 of each series at the minute

[Dogwatcher]

if klinger gets a call up he'll be the 2nd jewish cricketer to represent australia at test cricket

the first?

[locky801]

if klinger gets a call up he'll be the 2nd jewish cricketer to represent australia at test cricket

the first?

wouldn't worry about it, Klinger wont get the call, he doesnt play for NSW

[Dogwatcher]

I'm still interested to know who the first was - throw that into the useless trivia compartment of my brain.

[Dogwatcher]

mazel tov to you, I have found it.

Julian Weiner was the first Australian test cricketer of Jewish extraction.

[RoosterMarty]

I'm still interested to know who the first was - throw that into the useless trivia compartment of my brain.

I was also interested so did a quick Google.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Cricket/T ... 91530.html

Julien Wiener - a Victorian opening batsman who made his debut 25 years ago.

I have never heard of him before.

[The Cadet]

Lets give North one more Test. Ponting ( yes he's the captain) and Clarke have been out of form too, Hussey is scraping away and getting lucky with a few ugly scores but at least he is showing abit of guts and grit when needed. I think we will have a clearer picture of what to do after the Tassie Test. Like MAL said I think North is too low, lets move him up the order drop Ponting to 5 for his last year or two.

Cadet's Batting Line up For Tassie Test

Katich - Safe ( If Fit, Hughes other wise)
Watson - Safe
North - Last Chance
Clarke - Safe for now but needs to make runs when needed on more occasions
Ponting - Safe as captain, maybe sack him from the ODI's ala S.Waugh to prolong him in Tests for a year or two.
Hussey - Safe for now but do we want him there in 12 months against the Poms at age 36. Clearly his best is behind him.

[bayman]

mazel tov to you, I have found it.

Julian Weiner was the first Australian test cricketer of Jewish extraction.

yes it was uncle julian

[locky801]

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Hussey - Safe for now but do we want him there in 12 months against the Poms at age 36. Clearly his best is behind him.[/quote]


If his best is behind him, there are a few others further back unfortunately, our batting has looked fragile now for a while but we have been saved by special innings from 1 or 2, unfortunately we are not getting what is required from 3 out of 4 of the middle order, way i look at our batting at the moment it's the Watson show with some support from Hussey and not much more apart from Katich when he's fit, batsman 3 5 & 6 appear totally out of form and are scratching around like emu's in the park, Haddin cant win, he either goes for it and gets out or defends and gets out, we have been a tad lucky that Hauritz has showed a bit and I think has about the 3rd best average in this series for the Aussies, North has to go, appears to have lost all confidence not only in batting but fielding in the slips as well

[NFC]

Lets give North one more Test. Ponting ( yes he's the captain) and Clarke have been out of form too, Hussey is scraping away and getting lucky with a few ugly scores but at least he is showing abit of guts and grit when needed. I think we will have a clearer picture of what to do after the Tassie Test. Like MAL said I think North is too low, lets move him up the order drop Ponting to 5 for his last year or two.

Cadet's Batting Line up For Tassie Test

Katich - Safe ( If Fit, Hughes other wise)
Watson - Safe
North - Last Chance
Clarke - Safe for now but needs to make runs when needed on more occasions
Ponting - [b]Safe as captain, maybe sack him from the ODI's ala S.Waugh to prolong him in Tests for a year or two.[/b]
Hussey - Safe for now but do we want him there in 12 months against the Poms at age 36. Clearly his best is behind him.

Umm Steve Waugh couldn't bat in ODI's towards the end, hence the sacking. Ponting is still an EXTREMELY good ODI player.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I'm more concerned by the poor form of Ponting and Clarke than who is going to replace North.

Never thought Clarke deserved to be in the side in the first place. Only makes runs when there is no pressure on him. God help us if he is our next captain.

[CoverKing]

I would love to see the selectors give travis birt a run also....

LOL good to see you follow your state cricket closely

Barely gets a game for Tasmania in the four day comp!!

If Batting at 6, i would like to see Cossie (altho he doesnt deserve it, but an agressive batsman that has a lot of potential could be the go). I think George Bailey will be the go if anyone gets a crack, or Klinger if they decide to move Ponting down to 6

[Dogwatcher]

I'm still interested to know who the first was - throw that into the useless trivia compartment of my brain.

I was also interested so did a quick Google.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Cricket/T ... 91530.html

Julien Wiener - a Victorian opening batsman who made his debut 25 years ago.

I have never heard of him before.

gee John Harms does some top work doesn't he!

[brod]

Two things stand out for me
- The amount of times he FAILS (Last 10 test innings he has not got past 16 eight times)
- The trouble that North is having keeping the score board moving.(His strike rate is the lowest of the Aussie side for 2009/10.)


2009/2010 season
North 186 runs @ 23.25, s/rate 46.03 (2 fifties)
Ponting 216 runs @ 27.00, s/rate 69.00 (2 fifties)

[Adelaide Hawk]

I'm more concerned by the poor form of Ponting and Clarke than who is going to replace North.

Never thought Clarke deserved to be in the side in the first place. Only makes runs when there is no pressure on him. God help us if he is our next captain.

I thought we were past this sort of nonsense. Some people obviously cannot move on, restricted by personal biases.

[Rik E Boy]

I'm more concerned by the poor form of Ponting and Clarke than who is going to replace North.

Never thought Clarke deserved to be in the side in the first place. Only makes runs when there is no pressure on him. God help us if he is our next captain.

What is your eleven?

regards,

REB

[Pup]

I'm more concerned by the poor form of Ponting and Clarke than who is going to replace North.

Never thought Clarke deserved to be in the side in the first place. Only makes runs when there is no pressure on him. God help us if he is our next captain.

Another Clarke Basher comes out of the closet when Australia are struggling.

What a surprise.

[valleys07]

I would love to see the selectors give travis birt a run also....

LOL good to see you follow your state cricket closely

Barely gets a game for Tasmania in the four day comp!!

If Batting at 6, i would like to see Cossie (altho he doesnt deserve it, but an agressive batsman that has a lot of potential could be the go). I think George Bailey will be the go if anyone gets a crack, or Klinger if they decide to move Ponting down to 6

Fair play CK, thought he was playing in tasmanias ss side. Should be in aus selectors minds though for the odi and t20 sides....

[stan]

I'm more concerned by the poor form of Ponting and Clarke than who is going to replace North.

Never thought Clarke deserved to be in the side in the first place. Only makes runs when there is no pressure on him. God help us if he is our next captain.

What is your eleven?

regards,

REB

REB I know your not talking to me at the moment, but heres my 11.
In my opinion I would blood a young fella but i the middle order and not an opener.
Hughes needs more time in the domestic comp before he is ready.

Katich
Watson
Ponting
Hussey
Khawaja
Clarke
Haddin
Johnson
Hauritz
Hilf
Bollinger

[Rik E Boy]

No worries stan. Anytime someone says 'out with so and so' I always think 'yeah that's all well and good but who do you bring in'. If Clarke isn't in the side I'd like to see the eleven that person selects because for me he is one of the first one picked.

Just a comment on North again. I didn't get the chance to watch any Cricket yesterday but I note that North has been caught again. I know Booney isn't going to like this but is our coach earning his dough with this current side?

Like our teams immediately after the retirements of Chappell, Marsh and Lillee we seem to be advanced in years but not in experience. I reckon the coach and the selectors have got a lot of thinking to do and that it might take a few years before we are a power again.

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB