Salary Cap Whingers!

[drebin]

See on page 81 of today's 'tiser a story from Doug Robertson re Salary Cap scrutiny. Interesting to hear that a number of clubs "bleating" about those richer clubs at league directors meetings. Also mentions the "disgruntled" whistle blower - who we know is from a club down......

[Booney]

Drebin,
We all hate it when a some what controversial or possibly entertaining post comes to an end with a...........

[drebin]

A club based South of the Torrens!

[LBJ8]

Why wingers drebin i'm guessing you must think it is your club that is/could be over. If you where not then the thread would read a bit different...You can't expect to cheat and get away with it do you?? even though it's not just your club but i'd say Port would be cheating as well, interesting to see what penalties get handed down. Hope they are harsh or we may as well scrap the salary cap or make it bigger next year.

[purch]

North must definately be over the cap...

[westcoastpanther]

G'day birdseat

[tigerhutch]

This is pretty black and white, if you have a salary cap then it needs to be enforced. Any club that breaches it is cheating and should be penalised heavily even to the extent of losing premiership points. Hopefully none of the clubs have sunk to such a very low act !!!

[blueandwhite]

The SANFL is very proud that it is the second best competition in Aust. and we have done very well in our interstate games in recent years. There are many" imported" players who proudly wear the state guernsey and keep the sanfl the second best comp. I would hazard a guess that most or even all of these players are benefiting from salary cap rorting of some sort.
I think we should sack the salary cap all together.Its a bit like masturbation............you all do it!Its too hard to police. Let the weaker clubs perish. Why stop at one pokie palace, do what the roosters have done and have a brace of them! For those who critisize South for alleged breaches- please provide details of the on field benefits we have gained over the other clubs.

[Punk Rooster]

For those who critisize South for alleged breaches- please provide details of the on field benefits we have gained over the other clubs.

Can we take our time to answer this?

[doggies4eva]

Agree with you blue and white. Salary caps don't work. Full stop.
The thing that makes the AFL fairly even is the draft. Some sort of draft or limitation on recruiting is probably overdue in the SANFL. The emphasis should be in my opinion the development of youth with a little recruitment to cover any shortcomings.

[Blacky]

getting worried drebin

[Rushby Hinds]

Talking about great centre half forwards, and nothing to do with this thread at all, where has Brent Tuckey gone?

[Jimmy]

Talking about great centre half forwards, and nothing to do with this thread at all, where has Brent Tuckey gone?

Sturt, after there...was...some....unpleasantness at his former place of employ

[therisingblues]

I think we should sack the salary cap all together.Its a bit like masturbation............you all do it!Its too hard to police.

If breaching the salary cap is like masturbation, then it is a wonder that South has any energy left to play footy AT ALL!
Might explain a bit.

[Jman]

I think we should sack the salary cap all together.Its a bit like masturbation............you all do it!Its too hard to police.

If breaching the salary cap is like masturbation, then it is a wonder that South has any energy left to play footy AT ALL!
Might explain a bit.

We dont hence our results

[SimonH]

Salary caps don't work. Full stop.
The thing that makes the AFL fairly even is the draft. Some sort of draft or limitation on recruiting is probably overdue in the SANFL. The emphasis should be in my opinion the development of youth with a little recruitment to cover any shortcomings.

Yes they do. At AFL level, allowing infinite player payments would slowly but surely erode the draft as a means of ensuring a fairly even spread of elite players (it would make little or no difference in relation to fringe or 'honest trier' players).

At least in theory (and for the Clones, Essendon, Woods and Weagles it soon wouldn't just be theory), with enough cash you can completely rort the draft system. One way is through trades with a substantial cash component. For example, you trade away one-- or several-- 'regular' players for a struggling club's star. You make it worth their while financially by continuing to pay the salaries of the outgoing players; and in any even they're loathe to refuse b/c they know their star is likely to walk for more cash elsewhere at the end of his current contract, in which case they get nothing.

Or, as the rich club, you simply let the drafted star serve out their 2 year post-drafting contract with the cellar-dweller before offering them more money than they could ever dream of getting in years at their current club. The star then nominates that amount of money as their 'terms of trade' (which no other club, except the other fabulously wealthy ones, can afford), walk away from their dying club, go into the PSD, and they're yours.

Caps just don't make much sense in (ahem) second tier competitions. Especially where the difference between financial success and failure is whether you have pokies up and running, and if so, how many. The difference is so stark that you might as well have a cap that is indexed to the number of pokies the club owns. Or, just ditch it. Clubs will go under only b/c:
· they can't get pokies up and running, and
· the SANFL won't support them.
If the first happens, the 2nd certainly shouldn't, b/c the SANFL ain't short of cash and wants to see a healthy local comp for good reason.

A significant plus for the SANFL is that juniors go through the ranks and are 'attached' to a team. You wouldn't want to throw that away; for starters, it would kill any interest by the clubs in developing players through their U17 and U19 comps (unless they were superstars likely to get AFL drafted), and therefore be bad for the game as a whole. I don't see a SANFL draft as a way to go, and any rule 'you can only buy/trade in so many players per year' would be likely to be an illegal restraint of trade.

[stan]

At AFL it works and is needed. SANFL, well there is no draft, so is it still useful. At the moment it appears not. So if perhaps the sanfl should just kill it off.

[old blue]

At AFL it works and is needed. SANFL, well there is no draft, so is it still useful. At the moment it appears not. So if perhaps the sanfl should just kill it off.

Kill it off by all means - provided you only want 5 teams left in the competition.

[brent]

If breaching the salary cap is like masturbation, then it is a wonder that South has any energy left to play footy AT ALL!

lmao! thats gold!

[brent]

i pity the fool who don't appreciate the salary cap!

but seriously, there are people on here who seem to think that the only on-effect of no salary cap is unlimited spending and a super-strong SANFL.

but i think that the strength of the SANFL is not necessarily based on how many ex-AFL players we can attract (mind you, it helps) but more importantly on the level of competitiveness between ALL of the current nine clubs.

I still see the WWT merger as a sad sad exercise and although I do appreciate that they are a strong club in their current form and have created their own history, i hope that none of the current clubs disappear or merge as a result of a de-regulated market

particularly norwood, we need somewhere to dispose of our rejects *cough-vlatko*