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Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:14 pm

brent wrote:something to attract bigger crowds.....

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Postby Magpiespower » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:33 am

This talk of tradition is a load of crap - all the logos were changed in the mid-late 70s.

They're not even 30 years old and look very dated.
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Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:44 am

Magpiespower wrote:This talk of tradition is a load of crap - all the logos were changed in the mid-late 70s.

They're not even 30 years old and look very dated.

Who designed the logos? Was it the clubs individually, did the SANFL do it (outsourced), or did the clubs do it to specifications set by the SANFL? Again, I still think they stand up. The only thing "wrong" with them, is that people want change for the sake of change. If the clubs are all going to have new logos, then rather being done ad hoc, perhaps there could be the uniformity, with respect to specifications, so as not to have different sized/shaped logos. For the record, I'm against it.
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Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:15 am

Punk Rooster wrote:
Magpiespower wrote:This talk of tradition is a load of crap - all the logos were changed in the mid-late 70s.

They're not even 30 years old and look very dated.

Who designed the logos? Was it the clubs individually, did the SANFL do it (outsourced), or did the clubs do it to specifications set by the SANFL? Again, I still think they stand up. The only thing "wrong" with them, is that people want change for the sake of change. If the clubs are all going to have new logos, then rather being done ad hoc, perhaps there could be the uniformity, with respect to specifications, so as not to have different sized/shaped logos. For the record, I'm against it.


We had used the Rooster that was used in our official SANFL logo for years (at least back to the mid- sixties).
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Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:31 am

Leaping Lindner wrote:We had used the Rooster that was used in our official SANFL logo for years (at least back to the mid- sixties).

Not sure if you know where I'm coming* from. I meant the actual layout of the logos- ie being circular, a certain size etc. Although the Rooster was our logo, we didn't actually draw the picture of the Rooster, did we? That's more what I was referring to.
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Postby Grand Central » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:40 am

PR, the clubs have responsibility for their logo. That was, of course, different when the 70's regime was in place. I suspect with AFL clubs changing their corporate image some time ago that the SANFL also felt it appropriate to allow SANFL clubs to follow suit if they wish. The SANFL would approve the logo and it would be registered.

I like the new Bulldog logo but I reakon it's 80% right. I dabble in graphic design and soon realised that drawing a bulldog is bloody difficult.

Sturt should get rid of the circle around its shield. It's a good logo. Others need attention. Some more so than others.
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Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:44 am

Punk Rooster wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:We had used the Rooster that was used in our official SANFL logo for years (at least back to the mid- sixties).

Not sure if you know where I'm coming* from. I meant the actual layout of the logos- ie being circular, a certain size etc. Although the Rooster was our logo, we didn't actually draw the picture of the Rooster, did we? That's more what I was referring to.
PS feel free to e-mail me some more North pics :wink:


The idea to make them all circular would have been to make them more "uniform" I suspect. Like the VFL ones were all shield shaped and the WAFL ones were oval shaped.
I don't know who drew the Rooster but I suspect it would have been someone involved with the club. There is a photo of Barrie taken in the change rooms after he one the 1968 MM and painted on the wall in the background is a large rooster identical to the one used in the official logo.
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Postby U LEGS » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:34 pm

Every team is gonna change thier logo eventually. I wont be suprised if North take The Roost's logo for their new one cos thats not too bad!
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Postby Magpiespower » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:43 pm

Grand Central wrote:PR, the clubs have responsibility for their logo. That was, of course, different when the 70's regime was in place. I suspect with AFL clubs changing their corporate image some time ago that the SANFL also felt it appropriate to allow SANFL clubs to follow suit if they wish..


Without exception, the 'new' AFL logos are a 100% improvement over the 'uniform' one's we saw in the 70s/80/90s.
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Postby Peterxtc » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:06 pm

No need to change the logos. The idea of 'modernising' or attracting kids is rubbish. A few years back the magnificent South Australian State Cricket team was 'cheapened' by having the pathetic 'redbacks' thrust upon them, this happened with every stae side. I remember at the time the rational was 'we need to attract the kids'. Well guess what I'm 42 and I feel like a 'kid' when I pop down to the oval to watch and eat lunch during the state (OK Pura cup) games. No more that 5 'kids' to be seen. When we were south australia we drew a week day shield crowd of 237 with an avarage age of 63.7. Five years of being the redbacks and we draw an avarage of 217 with an avarage age of 68.7 (the other 20 must have 'moved on')!

The same happened with state league soccer. Reds, Pirates, Blue Eagles, Raiders etc etc I can't even work out whos playing who half the time.

Some change is positive (as well as enevitable). But change for change sake, or cause it was a recommendation from a 'consultants report' is a negative. The SA cricket team (and the other state sides) lost 'something' with the change but it is not at all clear what has been gained.

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Postby brent » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:11 pm

Peterxtc wrote:No need to change the logos. The idea of 'modernising' or attracting kids is rubbish.


Agreed, why on earth would we want to increase marketing and revenue for the clubs and secure their future by attracting the next generation? :roll:
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Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:41 pm

brent wrote:
Peterxtc wrote:No need to change the logos. The idea of 'modernising' or attracting kids is rubbish.


Agreed, why on earth would we want to increase marketing and revenue for the clubs and secure their future by attracting the next generation? :roll:

Or alternately, let's change the logos, thus alienating those who follow the club via print media (the little it recieves), and failing to attract anyone!
I'm not an expert on marketing, but at the moment the clubs have a logo, an identity. Changing that identity gains no new interest. However, promotion of that logo will generate interest. There's nothing wrong with the product, just the way it's presented.
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Postby brent » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:05 pm

thats like saying you could sell 70's flares and tie-die shirts to the youth of today by increasing their advertising
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Postby doggies4eva » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:14 pm

Brent - thats the point - you can!!!!
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Postby brent » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:09 pm

but......... but.......... urgghh... you got me there
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Postby CedeNullis » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:25 pm

Or alternately, let's change the logos, thus alienating those who follow the club via print media (the little it recieves), and failing to attract anyone!
I'm not an expert on marketing, but at the moment the clubs have a logo, an identity. Changing that identity gains no new interest. However, promotion of that logo will generate interest. There's nothing wrong with the product, just the way it's presented.

Totally agree Punkrooster. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Postby braveheart » Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:12 am

i really hate the new logo bring back the old one.
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Postby stan » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:42 am

brent wrote:
Peterxtc wrote:No need to change the logos. The idea of 'modernising' or attracting kids is rubbish.


Agreed, why on earth would we want to increase marketing and revenue for the clubs and secure their future by attracting the next generation? :roll:


Thats bullshit brent. It really is. The only thing that will "increase marketing and revenue for the clubs and secure their future by attracting the next generation" is pokie machines and beer.

Beer is key!!!

Its all about beer. I should also add that im surpirse by this from Centrals, why not just put a new logo on Grand Central or something, thats what you guys promote best.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Postby eaglehaslanded » Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:24 pm

I heard a name change is being worked on at the moment " Centrelink Bulldogs"
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Postby brent » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:11 pm

stan wrote:Thats bullshit brent. It really is. The only thing that will "increase marketing and revenue for the clubs and secure their future by attracting the next generation" is pokie machines and beer.



are you for real or are you just taking the piss? because i don't think think that the 8-15 year old market has really discovered pokie machines or beer yet. i'm talking about gaining supporters and members in the years to come. yes, i know it is important to have income from pokie machines, but if there are no supporters rocking up to the game in 10-20 years then you'll have a series of successful pokie venues but no football clubs or league worth maintaining them. talk about putting the cart before the horse.

anyway, i shouldn't have expected all of you over-40's to accept change, gotta hold on to the good-old days.


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