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Postby our_longreach » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:23 am

Dutchy wrote:Im pretty sure Stewrads have access to all Betfairs records. WOuld be interesting though, say you own a horse thats going to be a favourite in even a Adelaide Sat race and you stand to win $12k in prizemoney if it wins however for some reason you know your horse is not 100% (or just not confident it will win) you could lay it for say a liabiliuty of a few grand so you have a win/win situation!!!!!


But the question is what would be illegal about not being confident of your own horse and laying it??? Nothing.

There are many times that I would have liked to back against my own horse (without taking the field). It is not the owners responsibility if so called industry experts and form analysists make any horse favourite. Unless it can be proved that a race was deliberatelty lost (or never going to be won due to undisclosed problems with the horse - ala Freedman and OSJ) there would be no cheating or wrongdoing.

The question is "how on earth would stewards (and/or any other regulatory authority) be able to determine foul play??"

The answer is "with great difficulty" and I would say unless the circumstances were very clear (ie pulling up a horse) then they would not have the evidence to punish the offenders.
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Postby Dutchy » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:22 am

our_longreach wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Im pretty sure Stewrads have access to all Betfairs records. WOuld be interesting though, say you own a horse thats going to be a favourite in even a Adelaide Sat race and you stand to win $12k in prizemoney if it wins however for some reason you know your horse is not 100% (or just not confident it will win) you could lay it for say a liabiliuty of a few grand so you have a win/win situation!!!!!


But the question is what would be illegal about not being confident of your own horse and laying it??? Nothing.

There are many times that I would have liked to back against my own horse (without taking the field). It is not the owners responsibility if so called industry experts and form analysists make any horse favourite. Unless it can be proved that a race was deliberatelty lost (or never going to be won due to undisclosed problems with the horse - ala Freedman and OSJ) there would be no cheating or wrongdoing.

The question is "how on earth would stewards (and/or any other regulatory authority) be able to determine foul play??"

The answer is "with great difficulty" and I would say unless the circumstances were very clear (ie pulling up a horse) then they would not have the evidence to punish the offenders.


agree with you nothing stoping you doing this, even a good way to cover the training fees!!!!...I remember with my horses the trainer used to tell us sometimes "dont have too much on him today"
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MAL's BETTING IDEAS

Postby SCD » Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:51 am

Mal - in the wake of your other betting ideas, i've got another one for you...

How long will a horse be 3 wide during a race..

I would like you to give me some odds on Globe Derby Race 6 number 6 tonight.. I'm thinking I would like to bet on about 800 - 1000m in an 1800m race... I'd also like to back the horse to run last with you... Think the driver would be a better track attendant or a steward, give him a can of paint and let him re paint the sponsor signs on the way past tonight..
Port Power has 16 years history at Football Park...

The Port Magpies have 40 years history and the two shall never be confused or combined
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:34 am

ive been on the phone to BETFAIR to get my account re-opened etc and make a deposit and I cant believe how helpful the woman on the end of the line was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE, she didnt try to get rid of me and she kept on asking if she could help with anything else!!!!!!!!!!

that just shits all over PUNITAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby mal » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:06 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:ive been on the phone to BETFAIR to get my account re-opened etc and make a deposit and I cant believe how helpful the woman on the end of the line was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE, she didnt try to get rid of me and she kept on asking if she could help with anything else!!!!!!!!!!

that just shits all over PUNITAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Betfair, banks, takeaway food shops, hospitals, shopping centres.....you get the same service
you are just a loveable person.....
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:10 pm

mal wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:ive been on the phone to BETFAIR to get my account re-opened etc and make a deposit and I cant believe how helpful the woman on the end of the line was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE, she didnt try to get rid of me and she kept on asking if she could help with anything else!!!!!!!!!!

that just shits all over PUNITAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Betfair, banks, takeaway food shops, hospitals, shopping centres.....you get the same service
you are just a loveable person.....


but PUNITAB dont want to know me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby another grub » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:10 pm

they are the most helpful people in the world..... its hard to work out for the average punter (not me MT).... they are wonderful and have a great set-up... the death of Punitab is near!!!!
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