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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby NFC » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:47 pm

Mickyj wrote:
Hopeful Jelly wrote:
GWW wrote:What position did Salter play?


With Welsh in the team, Salter played further out from goals than last week against the Magpies. At times he was at full forward/forward pocket where IMO he looks far more dangerous one-on-one.

As I posted on the Eagles board before this game, in recent times we've often struggled when having two key forwards in the same team (ie. Passador/Schwarze, Passador/Salter). Once again we can't seem to get the two forwards working well together.


A few of us at the game thought
1 we were still to tall
2 Welsh perhaps should have played in the seconds to get some touch.

But Norwood always or nearly always had two on either Salter or Welsh.

What didn't help the Eagles today Grocke and Staple didn't have good games like last week .

Last quarter efforts by cica /Miles /Macca and even cheep turned the game in the Eagles favour.

Rubbish, Stopp and Young just beat them.

If you want to talk about double teaming, talk about Rowe who had to contend with about 3 or 4.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Aerie » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:53 pm

NFC wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Hopeful Jelly wrote:
GWW wrote:What position did Salter play?


With Welsh in the team, Salter played further out from goals than last week against the Magpies. At times he was at full forward/forward pocket where IMO he looks far more dangerous one-on-one.

As I posted on the Eagles board before this game, in recent times we've often struggled when having two key forwards in the same team (ie. Passador/Schwarze, Passador/Salter). Once again we can't seem to get the two forwards working well together.


A few of us at the game thought
1 we were still to tall
2 Welsh perhaps should have played in the seconds to get some touch.

But Norwood always or nearly always had two on either Salter or Welsh.

What didn't help the Eagles today Grocke and Staple didn't have good games like last week .

Last quarter efforts by cica /Miles /Macca and even cheep turned the game in the Eagles favour.

Rubbish, Stopp and Young just beat them.

If you want to talk about double teaming, talk about Rowe who had to contend with about 3 or 4.


You must have been watching a different game to me. Almost always our forwards were outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1, which was a result of Norwood playing 7 players in defence all day. Yes, Stopp and Young beat them, but with a lot of help.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Mickyj » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:00 pm

I sat through two grades of SANFL footy today and in both games Aerie is correct. As that is what Norwood did over 8 quarters of footy.
Thank whoever either they ran out of LEGS(pun intended)or the eagles actually played themselves(some individual efforts like Salter taking the ball of a norwood player and getting it to Welsh) back into what was a shocking game to watch!!
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:36 pm

I can't believe Eagles supporters on here are blaming Norwood ONLY for the poor spectacle. Eagles certainly contributed. I'm not sure about the comment that Welsh and Salter had two players each side of them .. I never saw Norwood with superior numbers where the ball was all afternoon.

And NFC is correct, Rowe had to outmark 3, at times 4 opponents. However, I will admit part of the reason for that is Norwood's inability to get players at the fall of the ball, and they tended to stand back and watch as Rowe went it alone.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Aerie » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:52 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I can't believe Eagles supporters on here are blaming Norwood ONLY for the poor spectacle. Eagles certainly contributed. I'm not sure about the comment that Welsh and Salter had two players each side of them .. I never saw Norwood with superior numbers where the ball was all afternoon.

And NFC is correct, Rowe had to outmark 3, at times 4 opponents. However, I will admit part of the reason for that is Norwood's inability to get players at the fall of the ball, and they tended to stand back and watch as Rowe went it alone.


The skills of the Eagles were terrible which contributed to the poor game. But, when a team decides to put at least one spare player behind the ball all day it makes for terrible footy. Very negative and that is what Norwood did today.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Mr Irate » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:53 pm

Aerie wrote:
NFC wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
A few of us at the game thought
1 we were still to tall
2 Welsh perhaps should have played in the seconds to get some touch.

But Norwood always or nearly always had two on either Salter or Welsh.

What didn't help the Eagles today Grocke and Staple didn't have good games like last week .

Last quarter efforts by cica /Miles /Macca and even cheep turned the game in the Eagles favour.

Rubbish, Stopp and Young just beat them.

If you want to talk about double teaming, talk about Rowe who had to contend with about 3 or 4.


You must have been watching a different game to me. Almost always our forwards were outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1, which was a result of Norwood playing 7 players in defence all day. Yes, Stopp and Young beat them, but with a lot of help.


Not sure why you blokes are disagreeing, NFC has admitted that Stopp and Young had help, from Rubbish....is this young Justin Rubbish, used to play out at Magill ?
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:32 pm

Mr Irate wrote:
Aerie wrote:
NFC wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
A few of us at the game thought
1 we were still to tall
2 Welsh perhaps should have played in the seconds to get some touch.

But Norwood always or nearly always had two on either Salter or Welsh.

What didn't help the Eagles today Grocke and Staple didn't have good games like last week .

Last quarter efforts by cica /Miles /Macca and even cheep turned the game in the Eagles favour.

Rubbish, Stopp and Young just beat them.

If you want to talk about double teaming, talk about Rowe who had to contend with about 3 or 4.


You must have been watching a different game to me. Almost always our forwards were outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1, which was a result of Norwood playing 7 players in defence all day. Yes, Stopp and Young beat them, but with a lot of help.


Not sure why you blokes are disagreeing, NFC has admitted that Stopp and Young had help, from Rubbish....is this young Justin Rubbish, used to play out at Magill ?


I like your work Mr Irate.

IMO it doesn't matter whether a team decides to play 1, 2, 3, or 18 defenders on a key forward. It really is up to the other team to find another avenues to goal with their loose players. If you are able to do this successfully, the opposition will need to have greater emphasis on stopping these other avenues to goal, potentially resulting with playing man-on-man and not having multiple defenders on the key forward. Once you've got that matchup then you can start going to your key forward.

Sure it doesn't help the spectacle of the game though when both teams are double/triple teaming the key forward and the attacking team continually kicks to these two/three-on-one contests instead of focussing on getting goals from elsewhere.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Columbo » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:00 pm

Worst game I have seen for a while. Reminded me a bit of Eagles vs Glenelg game at Adelaide Oval about 3 or 4 years ago, Norwood seemed to be pushing all their forwards up the ground which worked in the sense of keeping the supply into the Eagles forward 50 under control (Welsh, Symmons, Grocke all had days to forget) but when they did get the turnovers it was working against them because they were 12-14 players all in each others pockets with no targets to kick at. Will be intersting to see how things go in round 10 when the teams meet again at the same venue.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Mickyj » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:15 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I can't believe Eagles supporters on here are blaming Norwood ONLY for the poor spectacle. Eagles certainly contributed. I'm not sure about the comment that Welsh and Salter had two players each side of them .. I never saw Norwood with superior numbers where the ball was all afternoon.

And NFC is correct, Rowe had to outmark 3, at times 4 opponents. However, I will admit part of the reason for that is Norwood's inability to get players at the fall of the ball, and they tended to stand back and watch as Rowe went it alone.


Gee Adelaide Hawk I saw Norwood with woeful skills in the seconds .BUT have three or four guys around the ball so when 1 2 or 3 players stuffed up number 4 would clear the ball .OF course they did find an Eagle in their forward line.
Same thing was going on in the league game .where Norwood were good was number 21 (I think) he was very very fast.And Norwood with Roden on the ball looked far better than when he was off or limping on his left leg/knee.
Seriously if Norwood fans can not say that 2 or 3 guys were standing Welsh etc when the ball went forward you are only joking.Hell the point Welsh kicked from the square was after out marking the 2 guys standing him.
BUT unlike a few other Eagles fans(near where I was sitting) who wanted the players to kick long .I was yelling at them to find a player in the clear.which if Norwood have 2 on welsh etc there had to be spare Eagles players somewhere.

End of day a win is win ;)
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:16 am

Mickyj wrote:Gee Adelaide Hawk I saw Norwood with woeful skills in the seconds .BUT have three or four guys around the ball so when 1 2 or 3 players stuffed up number 4 would clear the ball .OF course they did find an Eagle in their forward line.


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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby scott » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:18 am

Under 16s
Norwood 1.3 4.4 6.8 10.9 (69)
Eagles 3.1 4.3 5.6 9.10 (64)

Under 18s
Norwood 3.4 7.8 8.13 11.18 (84)
Eagles 2.4 8.7 12.7 18.8 (116)
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby goraw » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:27 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Mickyj wrote:Gee Adelaide Hawk I saw Norwood with woeful skills in the seconds .BUT have three or four guys around the ball so when 1 2 or 3 players stuffed up number 4 would clear the ball .OF course they did find an Eagle in their forward line.


I dare you to make less sense!


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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby NFC » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:40 am

Aerie wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I can't believe Eagles supporters on here are blaming Norwood ONLY for the poor spectacle. Eagles certainly contributed. I'm not sure about the comment that Welsh and Salter had two players each side of them .. I never saw Norwood with superior numbers where the ball was all afternoon.

And NFC is correct, Rowe had to outmark 3, at times 4 opponents. However, I will admit part of the reason for that is Norwood's inability to get players at the fall of the ball, and they tended to stand back and watch as Rowe went it alone.


The skills of the Eagles were terrible which contributed to the poor game. But, when a team decides to put at least one spare player behind the ball all day it makes for terrible footy. Very negative and that is what Norwood did today.

Ummmmm you were there?

The Eagles had a TON of players behind the ball all freaking day!! Seriously, if the Eagles weren't playing defensive then how come Rowe was up against 4 all day, yeah, stupid Norwood! :roll:
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby fuzz » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:45 am

Couldn't even be bothered reading all the posts but gathered the game was of poor standard. I am glad I went and watched Mawson Lakes in the amateur league instead as it was a toss up. Glad to see the Eags went 2 zip though. Should be interesting next week
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Mickyj » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:55 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Mickyj wrote:Gee Adelaide Hawk I saw Norwood with woeful skills in the seconds .BUT have three or four guys around the ball so when 1 2 or 3 players stuffed up number 4 would clear the ball .OF course they did find an Eagle in their forward line.


I dare you to make less sense!


Ok sleeping giant just for you. four norwood seconds players are around the ball .player 1 stuffs up .player 2 stuffs up as does player 3 .While player 4 picks the ball up and kicks to an eagle defender in Norwoods forward line.It seemed to happen all game long in the seconds Norwood would run down the Grandstand wing in groups of four .
Is that any clearer for you :D
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Mickyj » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:57 am

NFC wrote:
Aerie wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I can't believe Eagles supporters on here are blaming Norwood ONLY for the poor spectacle. Eagles certainly contributed. I'm not sure about the comment that Welsh and Salter had two players each side of them .. I never saw Norwood with superior numbers where the ball was all afternoon.

And NFC is correct, Rowe had to outmark 3, at times 4 opponents. However, I will admit part of the reason for that is Norwood's inability to get players at the fall of the ball, and they tended to stand back and watch as Rowe went it alone.


The skills of the Eagles were terrible which contributed to the poor game. But, when a team decides to put at least one spare player behind the ball all day it makes for terrible footy. Very negative and that is what Norwood did today.

Ummmmm you were there?

The Eagles had a TON of players behind the ball all freaking day!! Seriously, if the Eagles weren't playing defensive then how come Rowe was up against 4 all day, yeah, stupid Norwood! :roll:


NFC IMHO this happened because the Eagles in this game unlike last years corresponding game.Did not play man on man when Norwood flooded into the eagles forward line.
And we all know that under Fuller when the Eagles went man on man Norwood killed the eagles in the same game last year.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby Mickyj » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:59 am

goraw wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Mickyj wrote:Gee Adelaide Hawk I saw Norwood with woeful skills in the seconds .BUT have three or four guys around the ball so when 1 2 or 3 players stuffed up number 4 would clear the ball .OF course they did find an Eagle in their forward line.


I dare you to make less sense!


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And both of you were there and saw the crap Norwood were dishing up ?
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby woodwt » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:22 am

The whole game was average :?

Lets hope WWT can play a lot better than what they served up yesterday against sturt at unley this week :D
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby MightyEagles » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:27 am

scott wrote:Under 16s
Norwood 1.3 4.4 6.8 10.9 (69)
Eagles 3.1 4.3 5.6 9.10 (64)

Under 18s
Norwood 3.4 7.8 8.13 11.18 (84)
Eagles 2.4 8.7 12.7 18.8 (116)


You can't blame me for the missing 30 seconds in the 3rd of the u16s as it was Norwood's fault as they had a different timekeeper in the 2nd half of the game.
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Re: Rd3 Eagles v Norwood Game Review

Postby klaan » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:11 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Mickyj wrote:Gee Adelaide Hawk I saw Norwood with woeful skills in the seconds .BUT have three or four guys around the ball so when 1 2 or 3 players stuffed up number 4 would clear the ball .OF course they did find an Eagle in their forward line.


I dare you to make less sense!


LMAO.... C'mon Micky you can do better than that.
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