Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

[Gozu]

If Greenies hate it, I'm for it":

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... im-for-it/

[Leaping Lindner]

He will soon be heard on his very own radio show on Station MTB. Along with those other intellectual giants Sam Newman and Steve Price amongst others. MTR is on the far right of the AM dial - irony no????.

http://www.mediaspy.org/report/2010/03/ ... melbourne/

[Gozu]

He will soon be heard on his very own radio show on Station MTB. Along with those other intellectual giants Sam Newman and Steve Price amongst others. MTR is on the far right of the AM dial - irony no????.

http://www.mediaspy.org/report/2010/03/ ... melbourne/

Talkback radio, Bolt's natural home you'd think. Shoring up things for when his column disappears behind the News Ltd paywall?

[Gozu]

More on this new MTR station:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/04/09/the ... alk-radio/

It does look like they've tried to create a right-wing (sorry "conservative") radio station.

[Baron Greenback]

I'm not too big on politics, but to me, Andrew Bolt is one of the only journos who seems to talk any sense.
He sees Rudd for what he is and that is a master of spin and not a lot more. And he is one of the few journos to have the balls to say it in a public forum.
I say good on him. Keep up the good work Andrew.

[Gozu]

Bolt caught out again, "Really, truly eager to believe":

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... o-believe/

[Ronnie]

I don't always enjoy his columns and i wouldn't place him in the top category of journalist. However, some of his social commentary is realistic and does hit the spot. His comments on Carl Williams for example are fairly sensible. His commentary on the way Christine Nixon fudged crime figures in Victoria were also revealing. At least i can understand him even if i don't always agree with him. When George Negus spoke the other night on TV I knew i was listening to one very lazy and second rate journalist.

[mrjbeam1981]

i don't give this fella the time of day, he prints these things to get a bite, or for people within arena's like this to do exactly what we are doing and debating these "issues"...

i was a little puzzled when he had a go at fair-skinned Aboriginals or those who stick behind term Aboriginal because it was the "in thing to do".

he makes statements that i don't agree with - no stolen generation, etc. if my grandfather was alive i would have loved to see him tell Bolt his story about being taken away, etc...

they are my two cents

[Psyber]

Ignoring Andrew Bolt, about whom I voted "don't care", the "stolen generation" term is a difficult and emotive one, because it carries the assumption that harm was automatic from those actions, and that they were always malevolent in intent. After all, at least some may have been saved rather than harmed..

I guess my view here is shaped to some extent by the only "stolen generation" kid I ever met, who was the younger adopted sister of a school friend of my sister.
I'd estimate from memory she would have been about 7 or 8 years older than me, and about a similar amount younger than her "white" sister [and mine].
Her adoptive parents were a guy in the Adelaide University technical staff, and his wife.
Norma got a University education in the 1950s, which neither her older sister nor mine did.
She married an Engineer she met at University, and they eventually went to Canada to live because of his work.

[Gozu]

Ignoring Andrew Bolt, about whom I voted "don't care", the "stolen generation" term is a difficult and emotive one, because it carries the assumption that harm was automatic from those actions, and that they were always malevolent in intent. After all, at least some may have been saved rather than harmed..

Psyber, whilst I have no intention of getting into a Culture War argument so loved by the Right, I suggest reading this response from Robert Manne (former editor of the very right-wing journal Quadrant) to the current editor of Quadrant, Keith Windschuttle who recently released his 'The Fabrication of Aboriginal History: Vol 3' to much fanfare from Andrew Bolt:

http://www.themonthly.com.au/nation-rev ... uttle-2256

[Psyber]

Ignoring Andrew Bolt, about whom I voted "don't care", the "stolen generation" term is a difficult and emotive one, because it carries the assumption that harm was automatic from those actions, and that they were always malevolent in intent. After all, at least some may have been saved rather than harmed..

Psyber, whilst I have no intention of getting into a Culture War argument so loved by the Right, I suggest reading this response from Robert Manne (former editor of the very right-wing journal Quadrant) to the current editor of Quadrant, Keith Windschuttle who recently released his 'The Fabrication of Aboriginal History: Vol 3' to much fanfare from Andrew Bolt:
http://www.themonthly.com.au/nation-rev ... uttle-2256

I'll have a look at it tomorrow, Gozu.
I am not a fan of Andrew Bolt, or Keith Windschuttle.

I'm not saying nobody was harmed and that nobody was unjustly removed from their family during those "stolen generation" years.
I just think the assumption it was all malevolent in intent, and harmful in every case, needs questioning in the light of the girl I knew when I was a child about 10.
Admittedly, I don't recall, and probably never knew why, Norma had finished up with that family, but theyclearly saw themselves as helping her, and they treated her just like they did their older daughter.

I voted for Aboriginal recognition and rights in the 1970s, and I support the current strategies for enhancing Aboriginal health and education.

[Gozu]

Bolt tyring to spread his disinformation to his drones once again, "I'll put my hand up":

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... hand-up-4/

[Psyber]

Psyber, whilst I have no intention of getting into a Culture War argument so loved by the Right, I suggest reading this response from Robert Manne (former editor of the very right-wing journal Quadrant) to the current editor of Quadrant, Keith Windschuttle who recently released his 'The Fabrication of Aboriginal History: Vol 3' to much fanfare from Andrew Bolt: http://www.themonthly.com.au/nation-rev ... uttle-2256

I suspect the reality is somewhere in between to two "truths" asserted by the two extremes' supporters.
In that era there were those who favoured the "breeding out the colour" and the enforced "assimilation" via adoption, views.
I know because I was an alert and aware child in the 1950s. I assume there were also those who saw adopting aboriginal children as a way of obtaining cheap labor.
On the other hand there were those who genuinely thought they were saving lives or providing opportunity by adopting a child, as did those I knew personally.

What I don't know is what the percentages were:
1. How many were acting for racist motives.
2. How many were simply exploitative.
3. How many were genuinely intended but mislead.
4. How many aboriginal children benefited positively from their adoption.

I doubt if anybody does, or ever will, while the focus is on the extreme views, and dispassionate review is impossible.
I do think the apology was due, but there was, I think, real concern about how to say "sorry" for the mistakes without suggesting it was all malevolent in intent, and establishing liability to compensate anyone who even claimed to have suffered. [So far that doesn't seem to have turned out to badly.]

[Gozu]

"If asylum seekers are living in such luxury, why don’t any Bolt readers really want to swap places?":

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... ap-places/

[Gozu]

"What's his definiton of "Left", then?":

According to Andrew Bolt, Malcolm Fraser is “of the Left“.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... left-then/

[Leaping Lindner]

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[Psyber]

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I can't see that - apparently it requires me to have a Facebook log in....

[Leaping Lindner]

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[dedja]

In good form in today's fishwrapper ... http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opin ... 5880234751

[fish]

In good form in today's fishwrapper ... http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opin ... 5880234751

Wow he is so full of hate I almost feel sorry for him.