Squad for the 3rd Test

[sydney-dog]

1980 Tassie Medalist

Voges has 2 tones this year, 152 and 144, one of these innings was not out

Voges has also definitely missed one pura cup game, possibly two, I would need to check

[rod_rooster]

Fact - He is batting at No. 6 therefore must be considered as a batsmen, he also opens the bowling therefore must also be considered a bowler - He is a genuine alrounder!...If he batted at 7 or 8 then you could consider him a Bowler who bats a bit.

He has also been selected for England when he was unable to bowl. So therefore he is considered by the English selectors to be good enough to make the team based purely on that skill.

[mal]

ROD + DUTCHY
Anyone who averages 32 batting at 6 purely as a batsman would be considered
as a failure, if neither of you can see that then I give up.
FLINTOFF is a slogger and if he never bowled again would be playing county cricket.

His bowling is that good he could average 1.5 with the bat and still get picked.

[Rik E Boy]

seriously, i don't give a shit anymore.

the symonds experiment has been tried and it has failed. a regressive step of the highest order.

voges. no offence but wtf?????

johnson remains tait does not. say no more.

Cripes where's that one coming from matty? You sound like a Cats supporter with that line LOL.

regards,

REB

[rod_rooster]

ROD + DUTCHY
Anyone who averages 32 batting at 6 purely as a batsman would be considered
as a failure, if neither of you can see that then I give up.
FLINTOFF is a slogger and if he never bowled again would be playing county cricket.

His bowling is that good he could average 1.5 with the bat and still get picked.

I don't disagree with you but i was just making the point that the English selectors obviously see it differently. They have picked him purely as a batsman in the past.

[mal]

ROD + DUTCHY
Anyone who averages 32 batting at 6 purely as a batsman would be considered
as a failure, if neither of you can see that then I give up.
FLINTOFF is a slogger and if he never bowled again would be playing county cricket.

His bowling is that good he could average 1.5 with the bat and still get picked.

I don't disagree with you but i was just making the point that the English selectors obviously see it differently. They have picked him purely as a batsman in the past.

Good point ROD.

PS go to TA V SA game
and read what happened in the 14th over .

[ORDoubleBlues]

voges. no offence but wtf?????

Who would you pick? Jaques is the obvious choice but i get the feeling that he will be picked to open or not at all. I reckon the selectors will wait on Jaques until he can go straight in as an opener.

This is ridiculous thinking in my eyes (by the selectors, not you Rod). Jaques is cherry ripe to go, get him in there now regardless of what number in the order he bats.

[ORDoubleBlues]

Selectors are in love with having an alrounder arent they?

They're also in love with left armers.
If Johnson and Bracken both went down tomorrow, Doug Bollinger would probably be in the f*****g squad!

[mal]

Selectors are in love with having an alrounder arent they?

They're also in love with left armers.
If Johnson and Bracken both went down tomorrow, Doug Bollinger would probably be in the f*****g squad!

Love of left handers
Hence the selection of Voges

[Dutchy]

ROD + DUTCHY
Anyone who averages 32 batting at 6 purely as a batsman would be considered
as a failure, if neither of you can see that then I give up.
FLINTOFF is a slogger and if he never bowled again would be playing county cricket.

His bowling is that good he could average 1.5 with the bat and still get picked.

I don't disagree with you but i was just making the point that the English selectors obviously see it differently. They have picked him purely as a batsman in the past.

Exactly, never said I agreed with where he bats but he does bat at 6 FACT!!!!

[mal]

ROD + DUTCHY
Anyone who averages 32 batting at 6 purely as a batsman would be considered
as a failure, if neither of you can see that then I give up.
FLINTOFF is a slogger and if he never bowled again would be playing county cricket.

His bowling is that good he could average 1.5 with the bat and still get picked.

I don't disagree with you but i was just making the point that the English selectors obviously see it differently. They have picked him purely as a batsman in the past.

Exactly, never said I agreed with where he bats but he does bat at 6 FACT!!!!

Our first fight in 8 months
see your point

[Dutchy]

[mal]

=;

[bulldogs]

Selectors are in love with having an alrounder arent they?

Unless they are top notch why bother?

All the good ones in history are exceptional cricketers, none of ours at the moment fit this mould

Totally agree. Our alrounders are just so so not good enough to be included in the team at either batting or bowling. All the great allrounders could play in there teams as a specialist bat or bowler.

Disagree most off the great allrounders were skilled in one aspect and were handy at the other.
FLINTOFF is a great bowler but would NOT make the team as a batsman
POLLOCK is a great bowler but would NOT make the team as a batsman

If the criteria is could play equally as a speciallist batsman or bowler then there is only
a very small select few players to achieve this in the history of the game.

RODROOSTER
VOGES is in great form in the pura cup this year
I only mentioned his record o/d score in his regime.

Thats what im saying Mal. The great allrounders would get a game in the team under one aspect, our allrounders Symo, watson arent up to batting in the top 6 as there are better bats around and arent good enough bowlers to be in the top 4 in the country.

[mal]

Selectors are in love with having an alrounder arent they?

Unless they are top notch why bother?

All the good ones in history are exceptional cricketers, none of ours at the moment fit this mould

Totally agree. Our alrounders are just so so not good enough to be included in the team at either batting or bowling. All the great allrounders could play in there teams as a specialist bat or bowler.

Disagree most off the great allrounders were skilled in one aspect and were handy at the other.
FLINTOFF is a great bowler but would NOT make the team as a batsman
POLLOCK is a great bowler but would NOT make the team as a batsman

If the criteria is could play equally as a speciallist batsman or bowler then there is only
a very small select few players to achieve this in the history of the game.

RODROOSTER
VOGES is in great form in the pura cup this year
I only mentioned his record o/d score in his regime.

Thats what im saying Mal. The great allrounders would get a game in the team under one aspect, our allrounders Symo, watson arent up to batting in the top 6 as there are better bats around and arent good enough bowlers to be in the top 4 in the country.

Good view point and you are right, unless WATSON produces, and if he does.....

[rod_rooster]

voges. no offence but wtf?????

Who would you pick? Jaques is the obvious choice but i get the feeling that he will be picked to open or not at all. I reckon the selectors will wait on Jaques until he can go straight in as an opener.

This is ridiculous thinking in my eyes (by the selectors, not you Rod). Jaques is cherry ripe to go, get him in there now regardless of what number in the order he bats.

Absolutely right. Jaques should play but the selectors appear to have made their decision, which is dissapointing. Personally i think he'd be better prepared to open the batting having had some Test match experience under his belt at number 5 or 6.

[Adelaide Hawk]

voges. no offence but wtf?????

Who would you pick? Jaques is the obvious choice but i get the feeling that he will be picked to open or not at all. I reckon the selectors will wait on Jaques until he can go straight in as an opener.

This is ridiculous thinking in my eyes (by the selectors, not you Rod). Jaques is cherry ripe to go, get him in there now regardless of what number in the order he bats.

Absolutely right. Jaques should play but the selectors appear to have made their decision, which is dissapointing. Personally i think he'd be better prepared to open the batting having had some Test match experience under his belt at number 5 or 6.

Jaques cherry ripe? Is this the same Jaques who has scores of 3, 0, 44, 0, 7 in his past 5 Pura Cup innings? Total runs 54 at a 10.80 average. Added to that, he made only 10 on a belter of a wicket today against Victoria. Doesn't sound "cherry ripe" to me.

Once again the Aussies selectors have got it right. Voges is a very good cricketer in both forms of the game. He makes runs, bowls and his fielding is well above average. I have no doubt Voges will be in the World Cup squad.

[Rik E Boy]

Yep, the runs have dried up a little for Jaques in recent matches and his fielding is pretty ordinary as well. As for Douggy Bollinger playing for Australia (Conspiracy! Conspiracy!), right now I'd settle for Douggie lining up for the Bluebaggers as our attack looks like a pile of poo at the moment.

regards,

REB

[ORDoubleBlues]

Yep, the runs have dried up a little for Jaques in recent matches and his fielding is pretty ordinary as well. As for Douggy Bollinger playing for Australia (Conspiracy! Conspiracy!), right now I'd settle for Douggie lining up for the Bluebaggers as our attack looks like a pile of poo at the moment.

regards,

REB

BTW REB, that comment about Bollinger wasn't a NSW attack, I would have said the same thing regardless of what state he played for (meaning he's a left armer).
Adelaide Hawk, you're right that the runs have dried up for Jaques a bit but IMHO he still deserves his shot because he wasn't going to peel off hundred after hundred forever.

[Rik E Boy]

Yeah I know OR, the 'Conspiracy Conspiracy' comment was a joke

regards,

REB