Heat policy? What heat policy........

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Heat policy? What heat policy........

Postby Booney » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:08 am

The assosciation that I play in,Adelaide and Suburban has adopted a heat policy,at the the beginning of last year IIRC.This was as a result of two section 1 teams in 04/05 taking matters into their own hands and on a forecast day of 42 degrees deciding to play a one-dayer the following week.In due course the assosciation decided to take the points away from the winner of the one-dayer,also IIRC.

Now during the following seasons approach the committe adopted a heat policy ,which states,if the forcast at 9:00 am on Saturday morning is 42 degrees or higher,play is cancelled.42! FFS,is 40 not hot enough?

Now lets clarify this,my personal opinion used to be play,play,play.Regardless of heat,however,as a skipper,who is now over 30 years old I have the responsibility to myself and my team to look after them and myself.Last Saturday (forecast 41) the assosciation stated if both captains agreed to a one-dayer this coming week,no action would be taken.The opposing captain I was to play against thought play was on,so,not a problem for me,we played,as in the spirit of the game I could hardly say no to playing.

So,my question is this,does your comp have a heat policy,if so,what is the temp,and do you agree with it,or not?
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Postby heater31 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:37 am

Yep, the SACA have one but its bloody hard to understand as it contradicts itself with some statements and does not specify a temperature to not play and head to the beach.

Was suprised to read in the paper yesterday of the temperature breakdowns for the previous day as 20 mins after we started it was the highest for the day at 41. whateva it was. IMO it didnt feel like a 40 degree day but thats just me had plenty of water before play and the skipper lost the toss to field all friggin day. drinks every 35 mins and the quicker bowlers in 6 over spells all day. Also the batting side decided to go @ 2 an over for nearly 30 overs.
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Postby Dutchy » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:48 am

Booney - if you dont know already Glenelg ANA called their game off on Saturday, dunno who they played

In the Hills we have the same rule except it has to be 41 degrees, if its 40 we play!!!!

The most stupid thing is though its based ont he temperature in town at 9.00am. In the Hills it can regularly be 5-6 degrees cooler than the city and the forecast for Mt Barker on Saturday was 39 degrees....why not base it on Mt Barker's Forecast which is more accurate for Hills sport? :?
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Postby Booney » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:10 am

The policy we have in contradictory in itself.It is taken if the forecast is 42 we dont play,but the wording states if the temp is 42,not the forecast,so what if you start in 41 but it goes to 42? Walk off?
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Postby rod_rooster » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:57 am

in Adelaide Turf, if the forecast on the morning of the game is 40 or over all grades get cancelled except for A1. A1 only gets called off if the SACA calls of District games.
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Postby dont think do » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:02 am

For once Adelaide Turf seems to be easy to understand compared tot he others. Have seen on the ATCA web site the the Heat policy is under review.

Might be more games being played depending on the grades, with the idea that the higher grades all have change rooms and showers so players can have showers to keep cool. Sounds ok but what about SHOC?
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Postby matt » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:03 am

and thank goodness for that Rod.

The amount of unfit 30+ players running around in the ATCA still thinking they can bowl long spells in 40 degree heat are only asking for trouble.

I was pretty happy the assoc canned it on Saturday. So was my wife. We ended up at 5 tile shops and 4 flooring places.

Boo the heat policy!
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Postby Dutchy » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:24 am

LOL Matt - Im the same, I reckon the cricketing widows society prays for heat waves on Saturdays....fair enough, in the current climate its useless praying for rain!
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Postby tazz » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:58 pm

I dont think we have one in the Southern Cricket Ass.
The umpire in our A-Grade game pretty much made the decision not to play as he was responsible for the welfare of the players but other A-Grade games went ahead.
Big problem is those teams that played get to bat for 75 overs compared to 45 overs for teams that didn't play.
An extra 30 overs to make more runs/earn more points.
If a side misses out on finals by just a few runs, they would be quite pissed off.
If it's hot next week and the umpire calls it off again, thats a whole game disadvantage to those teams due to an umpires decision
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Postby RRR » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:34 pm

dont think do wrote:For once Adelaide Turf seems to be easy to understand compared tot he others. Have seen on the ATCA web site the the Heat policy is under review.

Might be more games being played depending on the grades, with the idea that the higher grades all have change rooms and showers so players can have showers to keep cool. Sounds ok but what about SHOC?


SHOC have changerooms and showers??
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Postby Ecky » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:16 pm

The rule in the Churches & Community Cricket Assocation is clear:
If the forecast temperature on the morning of the game is 40 degrees or more, all games are cancelled.

It was the start of a 2-day game this week, so we will be playing a one-day game next week instead.
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Postby rod_rooster » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:17 pm

matt wrote:and thank goodness for that Rod.

The amount of unfit 30+ players running around in the ATCA still thinking they can bowl long spells in 40 degree heat are only asking for trouble.

I was pretty happy the assoc canned it on Saturday. So was my wife. We ended up at 5 tile shops and 4 flooring places.

Boo the heat policy!


If you decide on floating floorboards don't try to do it yourself. Not worth it. Trust me. People say it easy (and if you have a perferctly square room and nothing else it is) but trust me it is more trouble than it's worth.

As for the heat policy, the Turf had it pretty clear (although i don't know why they rely on what the SACA say in calling off A1) but now they want to review it? One of the few things with the Turf that was easy to understand was the heat policy. Personally i don't think games should get called off for heat but as long as the policy is clear then i don't have a big issue. Why mess around with it?
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Postby dont think do » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:59 pm

being one of those over 30 , bowlers who bowls long spells and is not as fit as I once was, I can say I am in favor of the heat policy, I can remeber a few years ago playing out at Elizabeth when it was 46.

Yes we are getting soft, but also yes the wife was happy.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:58 pm

I used to love hot days. It was the only time I could score any runs :wink:

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Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:25 am

Played that day on the west coast and it was 48, which is probably getting a bit silly. 40-41's all right if you hydrate properly and eat right.

For comps like the 3 hills ones, I reckon a policy that if its forecast to be a certain temp on the Friday night news, to cancel the juniors, and start the seniors at 9.00am to finish by 1-1.30 before it gets to the maximum heat. Probably not viable for those who have to work Sat morning or the Friday night drinkers.
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Re: Heat policy? What heat policy........

Postby Ian » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:42 pm

Booney wrote:The assosciation that I play in,Adelaide and Suburban has adopted a heat policy,at the the beginning of last year IIRC.This was as a result of two section 1 teams in 04/05 taking matters into their own hands and on a forecast day of 42 degrees deciding to play a one-dayer the following week.In due course the assosciation decided to take the points away from the winner of the one-dayer,also IIRC.

Now during the following seasons approach the committe adopted a heat policy ,which states,if the forcast at 9:00 am on Saturday morning is 42 degrees or higher,play is cancelled.42! FFS,is 40 not hot enough?

Now lets clarify this,my personal opinion used to be play,play,play.Regardless of heat,however,as a skipper,who is now over 30 years old I have the responsibility to myself and my team to look after them and myself.Last Saturday (forecast 41) the assosciation stated if both captains agreed to a one-dayer this coming week,no action would be taken.The opposing captain I was to play against thought play was on,so,not a problem for me,we played,as in the spirit of the game I could hardly say no to playing.

So,my question is this,does your comp have a heat policy,if so,what is the temp,and do you agree with it,or not?


Booney, were you playing at home Sat. arvo when I drove past. I must admit I did feel sorry for everyone out there. My son's last game of the year was supposed to be at your ground Sat. morning, but that was cancelled because the forcast max. was over 36.
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Postby Booney » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:37 am

Yes Ian,I was out there.Might have been in the middle at the time,got 40 odd in about 17 overs and was absolutely ******.
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Postby ORDoubleBlues » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:19 am

Know that in the Alexandrina and Eastern Hills comp that it used to be if it was forecast on the Friday night to be 40 or more in MT BARKER that the next day's play was called off. That was changed this season to be for a forecast of 40 or more in ADELAIDE as it never seems to be forecast to be 40 in Mt Barker, even when it's forecast to be say 44 in Adelaide. Was a day up there last season where it was forecast to be 39 in Mt Barker but 43 in Adelaide and everyone played on even though it ended up being 43 all throughout the Hills and 47 down at Callington where our C grade played. Was basically because of that day that the rule was changed.
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Postby bay boy » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:10 pm

All games should be played, it should be left up to the individual if they want to play or not !!

Heat policy is for soft, pathetic cricketers
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Postby Ian » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:38 am

bay boy wrote:All games should be played, it should be left up to the individual if they want to play or not !!

Heat policy is for soft, pathetic cricketers


I think the heats affected your brain :roll: You can't seriously think it's safe to play on 40+ days, people will still play if there is no heat policy, just so they don't let their team mates down, not because they really want to be out in the middle frying.
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