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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:10 am

Where does Boak fit into the mix next year? Talk of Rockliff/Gray rotating HFF/Mid - wasn't that the role Boak played this year?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:22 am

The Bedge wrote:Where does Boak fit into the mix next year? Talk of Rockliff/Gray rotating HFF/Mid - wasn't that the role Boak played this year?


It was and I don't know what 2018 holds for Boaky. Might see him out on a wing or at half forward.

Wines, SPP, Ebert and Rockliff playing inside roles, Boak, Polec, Motlop playing outside roles. One thing for sure is that if Boak is used on the outside more then he needs to tidy up his disposal, he's been pretty average by foot for a while now.

I'll be more interested in what they do with Westhoff if we get Watts.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:24 am

Booney wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Where does Boak fit into the mix next year? Talk of Rockliff/Gray rotating HFF/Mid - wasn't that the role Boak played this year?


It was and I don't know what 2018 holds for Boaky. Might see him out on a wing or at half forward.

Wines, SPP, Ebert and Rockliff playing inside roles, Boak, Polec, Motlop playing outside roles. One thing for sure is that if Boak is used on the outside more then he needs to tidy up his disposal, he's been pretty average by foot for a while now.

I'll be more interested in what they do with Westhoff if we get Watts.

I'd like to see him play off a HFF and drift across the half back line when kicking into the breeze, roam around and use his footy brain to work out where he needs to be on the oval.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:29 am

Booney wrote:I'll be more interested in what they do with Westhoff if we get Watts.

I thought they may use Watts swapping in the ruck with Ryder from the FP? Westhoff to continue playing on a Wing

What does your Round 1 lineup look like?

F: Watts, Dixon, Wingard
HF: Motlop, Marshall, Gray
C: Westhoff, Wines, Polec
HB: Byrne-Jones, Howard, Hartlett
B: Pittard, Clurey, Bonner

Ruck: Ryder, Rockliff, Ebert

Int: Boak, Powell-Pepper, Houston, Johnson

What about Ebert to the wing, Westhoff HBF, Byrne-Jones BP, Pittard out?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Dutchy » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:30 am

If Bonner is in your best 22 you are in trouble.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:31 am

Dutchy wrote:If Bonner is in your best 22 you are in trouble.

I like him. Give him a chance, he's only played 4 games lol
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:40 am

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I'll be more interested in what they do with Westhoff if we get Watts.

I thought they may use Watts swapping in the ruck with Ryder from the FP? Westhoff to continue playing on a Wing

What does your Round 1 lineup look like?

F: Watts, Dixon, Wingard
HF: Motlop, Marshall, Gray
C: Westhoff, Wines, Polec
HB: Byrne-Jones, Howard, Hartlett
B: Pittard, Clurey, Bonner

Ruck: Ryder, Rockliff, Ebert

Int: Boak, Powell-Pepper, Houston, Johnson

What about Ebert to the wing, Westhoff HBF, Byrne-Jones BP, Pittard out?




S.Gray and Jonas in. Marshall and Bonner out. Marshall the interesting one, if we get Watts I think they don't need to overload the 19 year old string bean just yet. Might also be able to use Houston's foot skills further up the ground too. Might see him on the wing at times.

F: S.Gray Dixon, Wingard
HF: Motlop, Watts, R.Gray
C: Boak, Wines, Polec
HB: Byrne-Jones, Howard, Hartlett
B: Pittard, Clurey, Jonas

Ruck: Ryder, Rockliff, Ebert

Int: Westhoff, Powell-Pepper, Houston, Marhall/Bonner/Broadbent/Hombsch
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby hawks21 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:23 am

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I'll be more interested in what they do with Westhoff if we get Watts.

I thought they may use Watts swapping in the ruck with Ryder from the FP? Westhoff to continue playing on a Wing

What does your Round 1 lineup look like?

F: Watts, Dixon, Wingard
HF: Motlop, Marshall, Gray
C: Westhoff, Wines, Polec
HB: Byrne-Jones, Howard, Hartlett
B: Pittard, Clurey, Bonner

Ruck: Ryder, Rockliff, Ebert

Int: Boak, Powell-Pepper, Houston, Johnson

What about Ebert to the wing, Westhoff HBF, Byrne-Jones BP, Pittard out?

Still a few question marks next year IMO (time will tell obviously).
I think Ports top 12 is as good as any but you will need Bonner, Howard, Houston, Johnson, SPP to go to the next level and continue their development.
Do you think your depth is there if injuries hit mid winter if Young and Achee go, Monfries retired etc? Pittard got dropped last year and i think Westoff if done.
Who would come in if Ryder went down? (If Lobbe goes)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Booney wrote:Marshall and Bonner out. Marshall the interesting one, if we get Watts I think they don't need to overload the 19 year old string bean just yet
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If we pick up Watts, one of the softest and mentally weak players I've ever seen at AFL level and delay or impede yet another promising tall forwards development, I will personally burn Ken Hinkley's house down.

Would be quite possibly the single worst thing one could do with this team.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:40 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Where does Boak fit into the mix next year? Talk of Rockliff/Gray rotating HFF/Mid - wasn't that the role Boak played this year?


It was and I don't know what 2018 holds for Boaky. Might see him out on a wing or at half forward.

Wines, SPP, Ebert and Rockliff playing inside roles, Boak, Polec, Motlop playing outside roles. One thing for sure is that if Boak is used on the outside more then he needs to tidy up his disposal, he's been pretty average by foot for a while now.

I'll be more interested in what they do with Westhoff if we get Watts.

I'd like to see him play off a HFF and drift across the half back line when kicking into the breeze, roam around and use his footy brain to work out where he needs to be on the oval.


You guys are getting mixed up with the Boak who played in 2013 and 2014 who had some leg speed(was never quick though) and used the ball well.

This Boak is too slow to play as an outside mid and his disposal is not what it use to be.
He might be playing off the bench for most of the year I’d say.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:02 pm

Dear Kenny

Please recruit Watts and hinder the progress of a promsing young forward.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:31 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Where does Boak fit into the mix next year? Talk of Rockliff/Gray rotating HFF/Mid - wasn't that the role Boak played this year?


It was and I don't know what 2018 holds for Boaky. Might see him out on a wing or at half forward.

Wines, SPP, Ebert and Rockliff playing inside roles, Boak, Polec, Motlop playing outside roles. One thing for sure is that if Boak is used on the outside more then he needs to tidy up his disposal, he's been pretty average by foot for a while now.

I'll be more interested in what they do with Westhoff if we get Watts.

I'd like to see him play off a HFF and drift across the half back line when kicking into the breeze, roam around and use his footy brain to work out where he needs to be on the oval.


You guys are getting mixed up with the Boak who played in 2013 and 2014 who had some leg speed(was never quick though) and used the ball well.

This Boak is too slow to play as an outside mid and his disposal is not what it use to be.
He might be playing off the bench for most of the year I’d say.
His late season form was excellent.

I don't reckon his body has been right for years, those last few weeks he seemed to be moving more freely and his kicking was better.

In my mind he still a centre clearance winning mid. Good balance between inside and outside. He is in those rotations for mine. Seeing him up forward and Wingard in the middle gave me grey hairs.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:38 pm

Just read that Wallace thinks Port are spewing Geelong got pick 19 for Motlop as apparently it puts us in a position to secure Watts ahead of Port
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:49 pm

Awww yis.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:56 pm

Surely there are too many commentators out there just saying shit to try and be relevant
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:54 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dear Kenny

Please recruit Watts and hinder the progress of a promsing young forward.


Now, now...while I think Marshall has a bright future ahead of him I'm a little reluctant to throw him in the deep in for a full season of playing a key position in his current physical form. I'd have him in my plans for 2018, but I'd also have him playing 60 or 70% of the games. He's completely different to SPP, Wines and co. who can come in and play full seasons in their first year, we need to be mindful of managing him early.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby MW » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:59 am

Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dear Kenny

Please recruit Watts and hinder the progress of a promsing young forward.


Now, now...while I think Marshall has a bright future ahead of him I'm a little reluctant to throw him in the deep in for a full season of playing a key position in his current physical form. I'd have him in my plans for 2018, but I'd also have him playing 60 or 70% of the games. He's completely different to SPP, Wines and co. who can come in and play full seasons in their first year, we need to be mindful of managing him early.


As opposed to a knockout final when Trengrove was available?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:06 am

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dear Kenny

Please recruit Watts and hinder the progress of a promsing young forward.


Now, now...while I think Marshall has a bright future ahead of him I'm a little reluctant to throw him in the deep in for a full season of playing a key position in his current physical form. I'd have him in my plans for 2018, but I'd also have him playing 60 or 70% of the games. He's completely different to SPP, Wines and co. who can come in and play full seasons in their first year, we need to be mindful of managing him early.


As opposed to a knockout final when Trengrove was available?


That was a baffling decision by Hinkley wasn’t it.
I guess his(Trengove) cards were already marked by then rightly or wrongly.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:15 am

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dear Kenny

Please recruit Watts and hinder the progress of a promsing young forward.


Now, now...while I think Marshall has a bright future ahead of him I'm a little reluctant to throw him in the deep in for a full season of playing a key position in his current physical form. I'd have him in my plans for 2018, but I'd also have him playing 60 or 70% of the games. He's completely different to SPP, Wines and co. who can come in and play full seasons in their first year, we need to be mindful of managing him early.


As opposed to a knockout final when Trengrove was available?


Selection in that match can't be questioned. After the siren after extra time loss when we dominated play, execution can be questioned but not selection.

If we'd lost by 8 goals, question selection.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby MW » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:24 am

10 disposals, no goals, no hitouts. Trengrove would have given you better output and may have swayed the result.
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