Para District Cricket Association 2008/2009

[norm11]

Problem is how many of those guys were asked but said no? It seems that every year 2 or 3 of the associations in the comp don't take it seriously by not picking the best guys, the best guys refusing to play or the guys there not caring too much (or more to the point a combination of all 3). I don't think PDCA were arrogant. I think they felt undermanned and tried to compensate with some bravado. If we were to expect that the guys would take it seriously then there have to be rewards for playing and/or penalties for refusing. But you can't really do that so we will have to put up with only really trying every 3 or 4 years after being embarassed or when someone puts some serious energy into it. Perhaps appointing a captain before the season starts and have a training squad meet a couple of times before the first game for a net session together would help.

I asked the Virginia guys on saturday , none were asked. Ratters not asked . Your right need something in place to make sure we have our best team on the park. I am a strong believer that we should play our best 12 every year. But doesnt always turn out that way. i think that we should have suspensions in place if guys are asked and dont play just because they dont want to . I know this is going to start a stir but thats what i think

[carey]

Is there anywhere to view the PDCA scorecard?

think you'll find when you see the score card had some of your team got some sleep the night b4 they may've put up a better show than what they did.

also found it very funny that at the end of PDCA 40 overs yelling from the side lines was hahaha "thats 80 runs to many" then there was "we should've declared after 20 overs" also "wait till we bowl make sure the helmets are out boys" and "win the toss and put us in so were still here at 1 o'clock' well we did win the toss and put you's in! now maybe if PDCA put asmuch work in to the game as they did there mouths the resuly may have been differant! i'v never seen a PDCA cusa cup team with so little desire to win and lack opf respect for the other side.

hope this doesnt offerend just my thoughts!

Mate if that eas there attitude then stiff s***t to PDCA .Lets look at something , 100s scored this year, Ratclife, didnt play, Leo didint play, Sutton didnt play, P. Thomas , didnt play , once again PDCA shot them selfs in the foot and picked not on form. Bowlers maybe ok still would have had Ratclife and maybe a Leo or a Sutton or even a J Natsias in there imo.

agreed mate has been the case many a year gone by i spoke with bomber about this b4 the game i asked about billy,benny,robbo,sibbick,p.thomas,ratclife and co. and he just said he didnt know then sewelly himself said his made about 10 runs for the year and was nearly capt. of the team! (although did bat well sunday)

[playon]

Is there anywhere to view the PDCA scorecard?

think you'll find when you see the score card had some of your team got some sleep the night b4 they may've put up a better show than what they did.

also found it very funny that at the end of PDCA 40 overs yelling from the side lines was hahaha "thats 80 runs to many" then there was "we should've declared after 20 overs" also "wait till we bowl make sure the helmets are out boys" and "win the toss and put us in so were still here at 1 o'clock' well we did win the toss and put you's in! now maybe if PDCA put asmuch work in to the game as they did there mouths the resuly may have been differant! i'v never seen a PDCA cusa cup team with so little desire to win and lack opf respect for the other side.

hope this doesnt offerend just my thoughts!

Mate if that eas there attitude then stiff s***t to PDCA .Lets look at something , 100s scored this year, Ratclife, didnt play, Leo didint play, Sutton didnt play, P. Thomas , didnt play , once again PDCA shot them selfs in the foot and picked not on form. Bowlers maybe ok still would have had Ratclife and maybe a Leo or a Sutton or even a J Natsias in there imo.

So was the SACCA team at full strength then as well? if you say that about PDCA then was there anyone missing from SACCA team, there is always going to be players not able to play or be bothered on both accounts im sure....

[Phantom Gossiper]

Is there anywhere to view the PDCA scorecard?

think you'll find when you see the score card had some of your team got some sleep the night b4 they may've put up a better show than what they did.

also found it very funny that at the end of PDCA 40 overs yelling from the side lines was hahaha "thats 80 runs to many" then there was "we should've declared after 20 overs" also "wait till we bowl make sure the helmets are out boys" and "win the toss and put us in so were still here at 1 o'clock' well we did win the toss and put you's in! now maybe if PDCA put asmuch work in to the game as they did there mouths the resuly may have been differant! i'v never seen a PDCA cusa cup team with so little desire to win and lack opf respect for the other side.

hope this doesnt offerend just my thoughts!

Mate if that eas there attitude then stiff s***t to PDCA .Lets look at something , 100s scored this year, Ratclife, didnt play, Leo didint play, Sutton didnt play, P. Thomas , didnt play , once again PDCA shot them selfs in the foot and picked not on form. Bowlers maybe ok still would have had Ratclife and maybe a Leo or a Sutton or even a J Natsias in there imo.

So was the SACCA team at full strength then as well? if you say that about PDCA then was there anyone missing from SACCA team, there is always going to be players not able to play or be bothered on both accounts im sure....

SACCA was missing a couple, an opening bowler. the vice captain as well as another handy batsman. Few other good bowlers just missed selection who would have performed on the day

[carey]

yeah good point forgot about that....................

[playon]

Mate if that eas there attitude then stiff s***t to PDCA .Lets look at something , 100s scored this year, Ratclife, didnt play, Leo didint play, Sutton didnt play, P. Thomas , didnt play , once again PDCA shot them selfs in the foot and picked not on form. Bowlers maybe ok still would have had Ratclife and maybe a Leo or a Sutton or even a J Natsias in there imo.[/quote]

So was the SACCA team at full strength then as well? if you say that about PDCA then was there anyone missing from SACCA team, there is always going to be players not able to play or be bothered on both accounts im sure....[/quote]

SACCA was missing a couple, an opening bowler. the vice captain as well as another handy batsman. Few other good bowlers just missed selection who would have performed on the day[/quote]

there you go, cant use that piss poor excuse of players missing for PDCA

[catchit]

Problem is how many of those guys were asked but said no? It seems that every year 2 or 3 of the associations in the comp don't take it seriously by not picking the best guys, the best guys refusing to play or the guys there not caring too much (or more to the point a combination of all 3). I don't think PDCA were arrogant. I think they felt undermanned and tried to compensate with some bravado. If we were to expect that the guys would take it seriously then there have to be rewards for playing and/or penalties for refusing. But you can't really do that so we will have to put up with only really trying every 3 or 4 years after being embarassed or when someone puts some serious energy into it. Perhaps appointing a captain before the season starts and have a training squad meet a couple of times before the first game for a net session together would help.

I asked the Virginia guys on saturday , none were asked. Ratters not asked . Your right need something in place to make sure we have our best team on the park. I am a strong believer that we should play our best 12 every year. But doesnt always turn out that way. i think that we should have suspensions in place if guys are asked and dont play just because they dont want to . I know this is going to start a stir but thats what i think

def agree with jonnie and alex not ratters he has let the team down in the past, i know he is no orphan there but with the ability he has could of helped us play alot more finals in the cusa cup,
def should be suspensions for those weak excuses that come out every year from everyone..

[catchit]

after round 2 what would be the cusa cup team if picked on form?
what would the team be if it was picked on peoples names?

[cokadonkeytoo]

all i know is im looking forward to taking some wickets and push for a spot in the side to take on the other two associations. I agree with norm, suspensions should b used to try and combat the 'weak excuses'. Work and family commitments and injuries are fair enough, but its also the usual lack of organisation of our association

[norm11]

Mate if that eas there attitude then stiff s***t to PDCA .Lets look at something , 100s scored this year, Ratclife, didnt play, Leo didint play, Sutton didnt play, P. Thomas , didnt play , once again PDCA shot them selfs in the foot and picked not on form. Bowlers maybe ok still would have had Ratclife and maybe a Leo or a Sutton or even a J Natsias in there imo.

So was the SACCA team at full strength then as well? if you say that about PDCA then was there anyone missing from SACCA team, there is always going to be players not able to play or be bothered on both accounts im sure....[/quote]

SACCA was missing a couple, an opening bowler. the vice captain as well as another handy batsman. Few other good bowlers just missed selection who would have performed on the day[/quote]

there you go, cant use that piss poor excuse of players missing for PDCA[/quote]Believe me i am not trying to use it as an excuse im just saying that imo the best team was not picked , or asked to play.

[norm11]

after round 2 what would be the cusa cup team if picked on form?
what would the team be if it was picked on peoples names?

form for me, hard to pick have not been keeping up with all the sides.
Leo
J Natsias
Sutton
Thomas
Ellis
Mcarthy
Ratclife
Davies
j. Mcinnes
Kokot
Heuy


On Names.

P. Thomas
Stama
Bomber
Robberts
Mcinnes
Picton
Ratclife
Mcarthy
Hands
Kokot

[catchit]

def not organized prop.. should be training sessions which must be compulsury with suspensions for missing them.. not sure who is in form from other sides so this is my team picked on ability mixed with form....from what i have seen and heard...
thomo [since opening has hit 155]
bomber [ can win a game in 15 overs] have seen it many times in cusa..
scott mac [ hits the ball hard and gun fielder
leo [ good runs and can bowl]
stama [ cause i am picking the side]
natsias [ made good runs against willy and jimmy and can bowl]
john mac [ always puts in when needed]
davies [ bowls well with the new ball and a very handy batsmen]
kokot [great keeper who is handy with the bat]
bill [ lifts for big games]
jimmy [ has bowled with good heat]

[catchit]

huey 12th man

[catchit]

Mate if that eas there attitude then stiff s***t to PDCA .Lets look at something , 100s scored this year, Ratclife, didnt play, Leo didint play, Sutton didnt play, P. Thomas , didnt play , once again PDCA shot them selfs in the foot and picked not on form. Bowlers maybe ok still would have had Ratclife and maybe a Leo or a Sutton or even a J Natsias in there imo.

So was the SACCA team at full strength then as well? if you say that about PDCA then was there anyone missing from SACCA team, there is always going to be players not able to play or be bothered on both accounts im sure....

SACCA was missing a couple, an opening bowler. the vice captain as well as another handy batsman. Few other good bowlers just missed selection who would have performed on the day[/quote]

there you go, cant use that piss poor excuse of players missing for PDCA[/quote]Believe me i am not trying to use it as an excuse im just saying that imo the best team was not picked , or asked to play.[/quote]
beaton us once and have a listen to you.. that makes it about 6 to 1 in our favour in cusa cup so wait till you catch up before coming on our site and telling us how good you are.. the fact is it will be the only game you will win..

[Rolls Royce]

Cant wait until the Churches play the turf side. Wonder if they'll be mouthy then.
Wonder if Shaun will follow through 1m from the batsman while Ben Hook, Michael Watson or Darren Reeves are batting.



Might head out for that one...

[Phantom Gossiper]

Mate if that eas there attitude then stiff s***t to PDCA .Lets look at something , 100s scored this year, Ratclife, didnt play, Leo didint play, Sutton didnt play, P. Thomas , didnt play , once again PDCA shot them selfs in the foot and picked not on form. Bowlers maybe ok still would have had Ratclife and maybe a Leo or a Sutton or even a J Natsias in there imo.

So was the SACCA team at full strength then as well? if you say that about PDCA then was there anyone missing from SACCA team, there is always going to be players not able to play or be bothered on both accounts im sure....

SACCA was missing a couple, an opening bowler. the vice captain as well as another handy batsman. Few other good bowlers just missed selection who would have performed on the day

there you go, cant use that piss poor excuse of players missing for PDCA[/quote]Believe me i am not trying to use it as an excuse im just saying that imo the best team was not picked , or asked to play.[/quote]
beaton us once and have a listen to you.. that makes it about 6 to 1 in our favour in cusa cup so wait till you catch up before coming on our site and telling us how good you are.. the fact is it will be the only game you will win..[/quote]

Never came on here to boast abt how good we are, records clearly show we have been on the receiving end of some beltings and im sure if your assoc manages to get the best X1 players you will be a force. Merely quoting the facts, question was asked if we were at full strength the answer is no, whether it would make us a better team i dont know. Fact:- PDCA had a very ordinary attitude on Sunday for what ever reason i dont know but it just shows perhaps you need to show respect and put in the efforts no matter how crap the team you play against. Speakin to some guys they reckon your assoc had no training, no invites and just rung players days before game, many who turned it down. Perhaps PDCA should invest more time into their CUSA cup sides and we wouldnt be having this discussion....

[Lightning McQueen]

Never came on here to boast abt how good we are, records clearly show we have been on the receiving end of some beltings and im sure if your assoc manages to get the best X1 players you will be a force. Merely quoting the facts, question was asked if we were at full strength the answer is no, whether it would make us a better team i dont know. Fact:- PDCA had a very ordinary attitude on Sunday for what ever reason i dont know but it just shows perhaps you need to show respect and put in the efforts no matter how crap the team you play against. Speakin to some guys they reckon your assoc had no training, no invites and just rung players days before game, many who turned it down. Perhaps PDCA should invest more time into their CUSA cup sides and we wouldnt be having this discussion....

Due to the passing of the heart & soul of the PDCA just prior to the season getting underway has hurt the association somewhat, the SACCA should take their one win in a row and be thankful, the PDCA will bounce back and the feedback shown on here displays that there is some passion to play for the PDCA.

It appears as though it has been over-looked as a priority and I'm sure the problem will be addressed and rectified.

[cokadonkeytoo]

What about if the association put forward a system where each division 1 team is required to nominate 3 players from their club to join the squad. Now this has to be organised before the season even starts for training purposes, so that the nominated guys can hit the track early and gel as a group. The association could send out invitational letters to the nominated players and give it a more professional feel, and maybe the players who have been nominated will respect the honour they have been given to represent their peers.
This scenario gives you 24 players in the squad:
The team trains together and a trial game is organised where the squad is evenly divided into two teams with nominated captains, (these can be determined from ballots from training sessions where the squad votes on who they would like as their captain). The two highest vote getters become the two captains.
From this trial game a team is formed from the players who have been performing at training and also the trial game. It promotes the feeling of competition between the players.
If any injuries occur you have another 12 players waiting in the wings to fill any spots
This would be good because it will give you an even mix of players from the association, all the guys nominated would feel great about being nominated to play, and you might just get a group of guys willing to play for each other and have a crack at playing a game on the Adelaide Oval.

[Browny25]

Brahma Lodge must be pretty strong if thats the great Shane Brown batting at 11????

I think you will find I was No. 12!

[catchit]

i agree with 3 players from each side to make a squad with compulsury trainings but i dont agree with a game between them to help pick a side, only because the 12 would be made up before the game and 1inn with the bat or ball surely wouldnt determine if you play cusa or not.. i would hate to get a duck and not get picked.. 3 players from each side with 3 sunday trainings a captain is picked on the second week and he picks the side along with the coach on the 3rd week then play cusa the following week... all of what we are talking about can be archieved all it takes is someone to put there hand up and get it started..