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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby UNDERthePACK » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:08 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
burglar wrote:if thats what it costs to get that umpire removed from tw games....................money well spent.


my mail is hodgetts wont be umpiring a two wells game again.


Considering Steve Guy got 12 weeks or whatever it was last year, and 2 Two Wells supporters approached the umps after the Balak game, and now this after the Hummocks game this apparent $1k penalty is absolutely piss weak.

Yes, umpires make bad decisions and sometimes deserve a bit of banter DURING the game but for the same club to be abusing the umpires AFTER the game 2 weeks in a row is not on. I thought Two Wells are better than that as a club and surely they must get rid of the bad eggs.

Like I said, I think umpires are close to fair game DURING the game but once the siren goes there is no way you should be allowed to get away with abusing the umpires. Sure, have a whinge amongst yourselves but they don't deserve abuse once the game has stopped no matter how bad they are.

Hound dog, I'm not sure if I would be sprouting around that an umpire is refusing to do your games for the rest of the year as that is an extremely poor reflection on Two Wells as a club.


Good or Bad, if you don't have umpires then there is no game. Simple as that!!
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Go the Umps » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:20 pm

[quote="BigV"]I dont think im alone on this but there are a couple of guys who keep getting A Grade games when they shouldnt be umpiring kids. I am yet to see a game with good consistent decisions this year.

How can you have a umpire directly in front of a contest not call a free kick but the other guy who is at the other end of the oval call it.[/quote]

maybe the umpire at the play was blind sided or is vision was blocked. this happens all the time in the AFL. :oops: :oops:
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The True Shooter » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:24 pm

just wanna say congrats to brain tiller who plays his 300th game on the weekend

Also good to see whitty back from his holidays and playing in the reserves this weekend :shock:
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
burglar wrote:if thats what it costs to get that umpire removed from tw games....................money well spent.


my mail is hodgetts wont be umpiring a two wells game again.


Considering Steve Guy got 12 weeks or whatever it was last year, and 2 Two Wells supporters approached the umps after the Balak game, and now this after the Hummocks game this apparent $1k penalty is absolutely piss weak.

Yes, umpires make bad decisions and sometimes deserve a bit of banter DURING the game but for the same club to be abusing the umpires AFTER the game 2 weeks in a row is not on. I thought Two Wells are better than that as a club and surely they must get rid of the bad eggs.

Like I said, I think umpires are close to fair game DURING the game but once the siren goes there is no way you should be allowed to get away with abusing the umpires. Sure, have a whinge amongst yourselves but they don't deserve abuse once the game has stopped no matter how bad they are.

Hound dog, I'm not sure if I would be sprouting around that an umpire is refusing to do your games for the rest of the year as that is an extremely poor reflection on Two Wells as a club.


Fact #1. - 2 Two Wells players did not approach the umpire after the Balak game - the umpires were standing in the middle of the ground about 10m from the Two Wells huddle. Some thing was said but it wasn't from the 2 supposed players.

Fact #2 - no one has been able to determine who said what, or if anything was said as Ranga umpire came off the ground. As usual, no evidence, but the umps word taken as gospel. How do we know it was even a Two Wells person, the umpiring was that bad it could have been any fair minded football supporter. Difference with the incident quoted above, it was quite clear who the offender was, in this case not even remotely close to determining who it was or what was said.

He's refusing is he, thought the club requested he not do their games anymore. If he is refusing then that's sensational, best news I have heard in a long while - might get some decent standard of umpiring at last. Pity the poor bloke that umpired with him for last 2 games, hopefully nothing has rubbed off.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:02 pm

UNDERthePACK wrote:Good or Bad, if you don't have umpires then there is no game. Simple as that!!


That simple eh? You would be happy with incompetent umpires? So they are not under any scrutiny? So they can be in charge of senior matches and clearly not understand procedures and rules? If they are not up to standard, they should be treated as anyone else in this game, dropped to lower standard until they show improvement. If they never improve, they will settle at their standard.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:37 pm

Woofa wrote:Great to see Jars (in producer column)get stuck into the league directors regarding there inconsistencies with lack of suspensions against the Mallala players who didn't make themselves available for the zone games. Interesting to see that when contacted, Brad Busch had "no comment" That must be a first for him! Hopefully Jars' comments won't have any ramifications for him journalistic wise. He's only reporting facts and any criticism to the directors should be taken on board.


Where's the inconsistencies?? Zone and Association are two completely different scenarios.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:47 pm

jumbo wrote:
Mythical Creature wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
burglar wrote:if thats what it costs to get that umpire removed from tw games....................money well spent.


my mail is hodgetts wont be umpiring a two wells game again.


Considering Steve Guy got 12 weeks or whatever it was last year, and 2 Two Wells supporters approached the umps after the Balak game, and now this after the Hummocks game this apparent $1k penalty is absolutely piss weak.

Yes, umpires make bad decisions and sometimes deserve a bit of banter DURING the game but for the same club to be abusing the umpires AFTER the game 2 weeks in a row is not on. I thought Two Wells are better than that as a club and surely they must get rid of the bad eggs.

Like I said, I think umpires are close to fair game DURING the game but once the siren goes there is no way you should be allowed to get away with abusing the umpires. Sure, have a whinge amongst yourselves but they don't deserve abuse once the game has stopped no matter how bad they are.

Hound dog, I'm not sure if I would be sprouting around that an umpire is refusing to do your games for the rest of the year as that is an extremely poor reflection on Two Wells as a club.


Fact #1. - 2 Two Wells players did not approach the umpire after the Balak game - the umpires were standing in the middle of the ground about 10m from the Two Wells huddle. Some thing was said but it wasn't from the 2 supposed players.

Fact #2 - no one has been able to determine who said what, or if anything was said as Ranga umpire came off the ground. As usual, no evidence, but the umps word taken as gospel. How do we know it was even a Two Wells person, the umpiring was that bad it could have been any fair minded football supporter. Difference with the incident quoted above, it was quite clear who the offender was, in this case not even remotely close to determining who it was or what was said.

He's refusing is he, thought the club requested he not do their games anymore. If he is refusing then that's sensational, best news I have heard in a long while - might get some decent standard of umpiring at last. Pity the poor bloke that umpired with him for last 2 games, hopefully nothing has rubbed off.


Maybe so Jumbo, but surely all of this happening 2 weeks in a row is not a great reflection on the Two Wells Football Club.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:48 pm

The True Shooter wrote:just wanna say congrats to brain tiller who plays his 300th game on the weekend


Yeah great effort if he's playing. Good call Shooter!
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby last paper purse » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:13 pm

A lot of hypocrites in this forum!! First of all every one is up in arms about players suspended and now in arms about players not getting suspended!
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:57 pm

last paper purse wrote:A lot of hypocrites in this forum!! First of all every one is up in arms about players suspended and now in arms about players not getting suspended!


Particularly as it has affected just a handful of players, most of whom were rubbed out for breaking a clearly stated law of the association - not making themselves available for an inter-league match!! I am sure the same blokes will be crying aloud next year again..... unless of course they read the rules :shock: :shock:
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby AKA » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:21 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
last paper purse wrote:A lot of hypocrites in this forum!! First of all every one is up in arms about players suspended and now in arms about players not getting suspended!


Particularly as it has affected just a handful of players, most of whom were rubbed out for breaking a clearly stated law of the association - not making themselves available for an inter-league match!! I am sure the same blokes will be crying aloud next year again..... unless of course they read the rules :shock: :shock:

Fair call swamp, but im not sure this rule will be around in the next couple of years. One of the reasons is alot of other associations dont have this rule. Borassa and the hills no longer play, because of these particular rules. I know for a fact that YP association no longer have it because one of the clubs took it to court and got the rule scraped. Im not saying clubs would do the same here, but they have the option.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:30 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
last paper purse wrote:A lot of hypocrites in this forum!! First of all every one is up in arms about players suspended and now in arms about players not getting suspended!


Particularly as it has affected just a handful of players, most of whom were rubbed out for breaking a clearly stated law of the association - not making themselves available for an inter-league match!! I am sure the same blokes will be crying aloud next year again..... unless of course they read the rules :shock: :shock:


I think it needs to be you who reads the rule Swamp - nothing clear about it all when the league apply this very un-clear law to injured players who could not have played anyway!!

I don't think the hyprocisy exists within forum bloggers, it exists with the league in one instance taking the rules as they are written and in another situation taking the same rules and extrapolating what is written. The hyprocisy exists within the league Purse, not with those that bring it to the attention of readers.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:46 am

Mythical Creature wrote:
jumbo wrote:
Mythical Creature wrote:Considering Steve Guy got 12 weeks or whatever it was last year, and 2 Two Wells supporters approached the umps after the Balak game, and now this after the Hummocks game this apparent $1k penalty is absolutely piss weak.

Yes, umpires make bad decisions and sometimes deserve a bit of banter DURING the game but for the same club to be abusing the umpires AFTER the game 2 weeks in a row is not on. I thought Two Wells are better than that as a club and surely they must get rid of the bad eggs.

Like I said, I think umpires are close to fair game DURING the game but once the siren goes there is no way you should be allowed to get away with abusing the umpires. Sure, have a whinge amongst yourselves but they don't deserve abuse once the game has stopped no matter how bad they are.

Hound dog, I'm not sure if I would be sprouting around that an umpire is refusing to do your games for the rest of the year as that is an extremely poor reflection on Two Wells as a club.


Fact #1. - 2 Two Wells players did not approach the umpire after the Balak game - the umpires were standing in the middle of the ground about 10m from the Two Wells huddle. Some thing was said but it wasn't from the 2 supposed players.

Fact #2 - no one has been able to determine who said what, or if anything was said as Ranga umpire came off the ground. As usual, no evidence, but the umps word taken as gospel. How do we know it was even a Two Wells person, the umpiring was that bad it could have been any fair minded football supporter. Difference with the incident quoted above, it was quite clear who the offender was, in this case not even remotely close to determining who it was or what was said.

He's refusing is he, thought the club requested he not do their games anymore. If he is refusing then that's sensational, best news I have heard in a long while - might get some decent standard of umpiring at last. Pity the poor bloke that umpired with him for last 2 games, hopefully nothing has rubbed off.


Maybe so Jumbo, but surely all of this happening 2 weeks in a row is not a great reflection on the Two Wells Football Club.


Also a poor reflection on one particular umpire, and the league. Why was that same incompetent umpire given a TW game after the issues the week before? Where is the league in all this? They are more than happy to hand out fines, how about some pro-activity and nipping it in the bud BEFORE things happen. Where are the umpires in this? How about putting capable umpires on the park.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby AKA » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:25 am

Very entertaining game yesterday at virginia oval. Virginia was up in the first half but balak clawed their way back in the second half. In the last quarter the peckers was up by 4points with 3 minutes to go,Virginia got the ball down to big Nikalous who took a grab 40 meters out and slotting one through. Well played by both teams. :D
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:37 pm

Norm, How many copies of the Sunday Mail did you buy today? :lol: ;)
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:00 pm

Good to see the Wells boys play into some form yesterday. absolutey smashed united after quarter time. I'm not sure how they got so close to mallala. looking forward to the hamley game this week
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Fog Horn Leg Horn » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:03 pm

It had been a long week for the Two Wells Football Club, a $1000 fine from the APFL, a two match suspension to Ryan McDonald and to make things worse the Roosters hadn’t tasted victory since May 29. After a slow start Two Wells kept their season alive defeating United by 74 points yesterday. Long Plains could only manage two goals after quarter time as the Roosters controlled play. The final margin could have been bigger with the Roosters having 19 more scoring shots. Paul Christofis continued his good form kicking 5 goals. Multiple Best & Fairest winner Lee Allmond returned to the Two Wells side after missing last weeks clash against Hummocks due to a shoulder injury and made the Roosters forward line look very potent kicking four goals. After goaling in the first quarter, Peter Burgoyne moved to the midfield. The large crowd on hand at Two Wells Oval was treated to watch two former Port Adelaide players go head to head. Rooster’s Alf Steed played many games for the Magpies while United’s Burgoyne played 240 games for the Power including their 2004 Premiership win over the Brisbane Lions. Amazingly both Steed and Burgoyne were members of the Port Adelaide Magpies 1998 SANFL Premiership team. United had definitely improved from the Round 6 clash as the Tigers have blooded some kids as they build for 2011. Long Plains had no answers for the Roosters midfield. Steed was again brilliant, as were the Leighton brothers. Christian Nurton set up many goals with his silky skills while Lachlan Franklin played his best game in the A grade since being promoted from the Reserves, kicking two goals. United face the in form Virginia at home next Saturday, the Rams remain in fourth spot and a win ahead of the Roosters after they defeated Balaklava yesterday. Two Wells face Hamley Bridge away and must beat the Bombers to remain in touch with Virginia.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Woofa » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:34 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
last paper purse wrote:A lot of hypocrites in this forum!! First of all every one is up in arms about players suspended and now in arms about players not getting suspended!


Particularly as it has affected just a handful of players, most of whom were rubbed out for breaking a clearly stated law of the association - not making themselves available for an inter-league match!! I am sure the same blokes will be crying aloud next year again..... unless of course they read the rules :shock: :shock:


Take your Mallala hat off for a second swamp & don't be so defensive. You and purse seem to think that this is an attack on Mallala?? I wasn't in any way suggesting that any of you guys should've been suspended for not playing in the zone game. If any players want to rest there bodies for upcoming club games which i agree, are more important, then fair enough i say. But the inconsistencies are that the league board are extremely strict applying the suspension for assoc games, that you would think they would be doing the same in this case. Otherwise they should just say play if you want in both cases. Now, i know you will reply about the wording of the rules etc but i'm talking about common sense here. Assoc games are popular enough amongst many good players in this league. Suspension are not needed.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:42 am

Woofa wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
last paper purse wrote:A lot of hypocrites in this forum!! First of all every one is up in arms about players suspended and now in arms about players not getting suspended!


Particularly as it has affected just a handful of players, most of whom were rubbed out for breaking a clearly stated law of the association - not making themselves available for an inter-league match!! I am sure the same blokes will be crying aloud next year again..... unless of course they read the rules :shock: :shock:


Take your Mallala hat off for a second swamp & don't be so defensive. You and purse seem to think that this is an attack on Mallala?? I wasn't in any way suggesting that any of you guys should've been suspended for not playing in the zone game. If any players want to rest there bodies for upcoming club games which i agree, are more important, then fair enough i say. But the inconsistencies are that the league board are extremely strict applying the suspension for assoc games, that you would think they would be doing the same in this case. Otherwise they should just say play if you want in both cases. Now, i know you will reply about the wording of the rules etc but i'm talking about common sense here. Assoc games are popular enough amongst many good players in this league. Suspension are not needed.


Fair enough Woofa and Jumbo you make also make good points. Unfortunately I can't see the rule being dropped next season, regardless of how the clubs feel about it.

Mallala got back on track on the weekend with a solid win against HWE at Lochiel. HWE were missing quite a few of thier better players including Barnes and Light and loosing Reidy early was a big blow, though equally for Mallala loosing Brad Hardie was also a big blow. Jared Wilson played prob the best game I have seen him play easily racking up 30+ touches and taking some classy marks. Magpie boys should be proud of thier efforts, Jimmy Wildbore played a blinder and Rimmer also played a great game I thought kicking a few handy goals and getting plenty of the hard ball. Maggies will enjoy the week off again this week.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:50 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
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Swamp Donkey wrote:
last paper purse wrote:A lot of hypocrites in this forum!! First of all every one is up in arms about players suspended and now in arms about players not getting suspended!


Particularly as it has affected just a handful of players, most of whom were rubbed out for breaking a clearly stated law of the association - not making themselves available for an inter-league match!! I am sure the same blokes will be crying aloud next year again..... unless of course they read the rules :shock: :shock:


Take your Mallala hat off for a second swamp & don't be so defensive. You and purse seem to think that this is an attack on Mallala?? I wasn't in any way suggesting that any of you guys should've been suspended for not playing in the zone game. If any players want to rest there bodies for upcoming club games which i agree, are more important, then fair enough i say. But the inconsistencies are that the league board are extremely strict applying the suspension for assoc games, that you would think they would be doing the same in this case. Otherwise they should just say play if you want in both cases. Now, i know you will reply about the wording of the rules etc but i'm talking about common sense here. Assoc games are popular enough amongst many good players in this league. Suspension are not needed.


Fair enough Woofa and Jumbo you make also make good points. Unfortunately I can't see the rule being dropped next season, regardless of how the clubs feel about it.

Mallala got back on track on the weekend with a solid win against HWE at Lochiel. HWE were missing quite a few of thier better players including Barnes and Light and loosing Reidy early was a big blow, though equally for Mallala loosing Brad Hardie was also a big blow. Jared Wilson played prob the best game I have seen him play easily racking up 30+ touches and taking some classy marks. Magpie boys should be proud of thier efforts, Jimmy Wildbore played a blinder and Rimmer also played a great game I thought kicking a few handy goals and getting plenty of the hard ball. Maggies will enjoy the week off again this week.


what was ur view on the umpiring swamp? i saw our favourite was doing ur game
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