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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Hondo » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:06 pm

Re Woodville's half back line I don't reckon Taylor played CHB much

By 1988 I reckon Champion had taken on that position after Rogers left for the VFL. MacDonald on one HBF but Dettman was more of a midfield tagger I think? A Jarman in his book rates Dettman as his toughest opponent. Trying to recall who else may have played HBF and can't find a name ... maybe Steve Jacquier?

I think Klug was recruited to replace Taylor at CHF who went back to the VFL with Brisbane in 1988.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby robranisgod » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:14 pm

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robranisgod wrote:I don't remember Peter Simmons playing half back for North once in his career. He more played back pocket (as he did in the 1987 Grand Final so superbly) or on ball.

North's usual half back line about that time was J Riley, Clisby and Tiller and I would back that line to be at least the equal of the Glenelg half back line, but not a patch on the Port half back line.


Not being an expert on North Adelaide, i was going by memory, i did think of J Riley, but for some reason thought he was a back pocket player. Tiller was an obvious one i overlooked.


S Riley was more a back pocket. J Riley represented the state often at half back. In one state game 5 of the six defenders were from Port Adelaide with J Riley the only non Port player. He was state vice captain a few times as well as captain of North Adelaide until his one game career with Footscray.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby GWW » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:15 pm

Ah yes, i forgot about Champion. I always thought that Dettman was quite an under-rated footballer.

I thought Taylor was still at Woodville in 88, that may have been about the year he left though i guess.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Hondo » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:17 pm

I thought Taylor left around 1988 and then googled it and it seems he did debut for the Bears in 1988. He played for the Eagles in 1991 so his return to the VFL was short-lived. He had such an impact in the SANFL that it's surprising he wasn't able to step up to VFL better. I recall him not being the dominant force of 1986-87 when he returned to the Eagles.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby GWW » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:20 pm

So presumably Woodville recruited Klug as a direct replacement for Taylor when he left in 88. Interestingly the Warriors had some (although not at the same time) of the best forwards in the competition in the late 80's - Nichols, Klug, Jakovich and Taylor.

Gary Haylock is one player that comes to mind as a possible back flanker, although i can't remember if he was a midfielder or more of a small defender.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Hondo » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:22 pm

robranisgod wrote:S Riley was more a back pocket. J Riley represented the state often at half back. In one state game 5 of the six defenders were from Port Adelaide with J Riley the only non Port player. He was state vice captain a few times as well as captain of North Adelaide until his one game career with Footscray.


Did Tiller and J Riley retire at the end of 1988? Along with Wildy and Arnold? Actually scratch that because I recall seeing Tiller play in 1989 and Arnold may have still been there. In their 1989 GF team I can't think of the North HB line apart from Tiller-Clisby-?

I reckon Simmons may have slotted into a HBF in 1989 when he wasn't injured which was most of the time.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Hondo » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:23 pm

GWW wrote:So presumably Woodville recruited Klug as a direct replacement for Taylor when he left in 88. Interestingly the Warriors had some (although not at the same time) of the best forwards in the competition in the late 80's - Nichols, Klug, Jakovich and Taylor.

Gary Haylock is one player that comes to mind as a possible back flanker, although i can't remember if he was a midfielder or more of a small defender.


My recollection is that Klug came in to replace Taylor and Jackovich came in 1989 to replace Nichols.

I think Haylock played on ball.

We need woodwt to the thread. I know for sure that he would recall! McAlmanac are you out there?
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby GWW » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:25 pm

What year did Bradley Ryan move clubs? He went from West to North (and not the other way around?), presumably it was around the same time Crait Burton moved clubs too. I recall Ryan niggling Michael Aish who got sick of the attention and turned around and whacked him. I think that was around 86/87.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:37 pm

GWW wrote:What year did Bradley Ryan move clubs? He went from West to North (and not the other way around?), presumably it was around the same time Crait Burton moved clubs too. I recall Ryan niggling Michael Aish who got sick of the attention and turned around and whacked him. I think that was around 86/87.


Ryan went to North in 1990. Burton in 87.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:42 pm

Hondo wrote:
robranisgod wrote:S Riley was more a back pocket. J Riley represented the state often at half back. In one state game 5 of the six defenders were from Port Adelaide with J Riley the only non Port player. He was state vice captain a few times as well as captain of North Adelaide until his one game career with Footscray.


Did Tiller and J Riley retire at the end of 1988? Along with Wildy and Arnold? Actually scratch that because I recall seeing Tiller play in 1989 and Arnold may have still been there. In their 1989 GF team I can't think of the North HB line apart from Tiller-Clisby-?

I reckon Simmons may have slotted into a HBF in 1989 when he wasn't injured which was most of the time.


Wildy left after he got a spray from Nunan in 88 when Phillips ran him down in a game v Port virtually costing us the game. Tiller,J.Riley and Arnold all retired at various stages of 1990 after an injury riddled season in all three cases. Clisby announced his retirement at the 91 premiership dinner when he announced he was moving to Sydney for work reasons.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby FlyingHigh » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:15 am

Hondo wrote:I thought Taylor left around 1988 and then googled it and it seems he did debut for the Bears in 1988. He played for the Eagles in 1991 so his return to the VFL was short-lived. He had such an impact in the SANFL that it's surprising he wasn't able to step up to VFL better. I recall him not being the dominant force of 1986-87 when he returned to the Eagles.
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GWW wrote:So presumably Woodville recruited Klug as a direct replacement for Taylor when he left in 88. Interestingly the Warriors had some (although not at the same time) of the best forwards in the competition in the late 80's - Nichols, Klug, Jakovich and Taylor.

Gary Haylock is one player that comes to mind as a possible back flanker, although i can't remember if he was a midfielder or more of a small defender.


My recollection is that Klug came in to replace Taylor and Jackovich came in 1989 to replace Nichols.

I think Haylock played on ball.

We need woodwt to the thread. I know for sure that he would recall! McAlmanac are you out there?


Alex Lunn was probably the other HBF in the late 80's, but never played for WWT.

From memory, Haylock was an on-baller earlier in his career then moved to the back pocket.

Taylor I think suffered from the Brisbane Bears set-up like many other players did in those early years. There is the classic video of him launching punches into Frawley out of frustration.

A Klug-Nicholls combination would have been great to see, and reckon it would have done a lot more for team harmony than Klug-Jakovich.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby GWW » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:25 am

FlyingHigh, where did Dettman play most of his footy? Did he play in defence at all?

I can imagine that Klug and Jakovich would have had fairly different personalities so that may have affected their on field chemistry.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby JK » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:09 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Craig Kelly went to Collingwood in 1989, Francis went in 1990. Francis played his first game on his 21st birthday (I think it was against West Coast), and got a 6 match suspension for kicking. Ended up with a flag though, so it turned out well for him.

It seemed back then that Norwood was the only club Collingwood recruited from :)



Ned was a big loss for that 2nd Semi (not enough to change the result obviously, IIRC 2.5 v 10.17 is a fair smashing :( ) and was reported for such a stupid and unnecessary act of thuggery (Chopper Handley lost a few teeth I think).

I think the club realised they had some issues down back and in 1989 from memory came improvement with blokes like Matthew Kelly, Justin Staritski, Maynard and Wayne Tanner providing plenty of run from back there at different times, maybe with Steve Almond at CHB .. We crunched Port in the final Minor round game, but not collecting the double chance proved too taxing after getting over the Bays and Dogs in the first 2 weeks of the finals, and were rolled by a better drilled and harder North in the Prelim.

IIRC we won 10 of our last 11 that year, but lost to Sturt which cost us the double chance.
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:24 pm

Magpiespower wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:- 1988 Second semi final when we only kicked 2 goals against Port. It was cold and wet and we sucked!


No goals in the second-half of round 22.

No goals in the first half of the second-semi.

No goals in four consecutive quarters.

YOU SUCKED!

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Wasn't it five? I thought we didn't goal until the last quarter that day although I did my best to try and remove that black day from my memory. :(

Port were a fair side back them, about to win just about every flag going for about ten years. It was no disgrace to lose to those Magpies, even if it wasn't much fun. But then again, we have both been crap since but we now own you, even in our spoon year! ;)

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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:26 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Craig Kelly went to Collingwood in 1989, Francis went in 1990. Francis played his first game on his 21st birthday (I think it was against West Coast), and got a 6 match suspension for kicking. Ended up with a flag though, so it turned out well for him.

It seemed back then that Norwood was the only club Collingwood recruited from :)



Ned was a big loss for that 2nd Semi (not enough to change the result obviously, IIRC 2.5 v 10.17 is a fair smashing :( ) and was reported for such a stupid and unnecessary act of thuggery (Chopper Handley lost a few teeth I think).

I think the club realised they had some issues down back and in 1989 from memory came improvement with blokes like Matthew Kelly, Justin Staritski, Maynard and Wayne Tanner providing plenty of run from back there at different times, maybe with Steve Almond at CHB .. We crunched Port in the final Minor round game, but not collecting the double chance proved too taxing after getting over the Bays and Dogs in the first 2 weeks of the finals, and were rolled by a better drilled and harder North in the Prelim.

IIRC we won 10 of our last 11 that year, but lost to Sturt which cost us the double chance.


The late 80's were a pain in the arse. How many times did we finish 3rd under Balmey!

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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby JK » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:37 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:The late 80's were a pain in the arse. How many times did we finish 3rd under Balmey!

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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby GWW » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:54 pm

Just think of '84, that will make you feel better ;)
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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:25 pm

GWW wrote:Just think of '84, that will make you feel better ;)


Hey waddya know, it worked! :lol:

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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby GWW » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:59 pm

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Re: 1980's SANFL

Postby FlyingHigh » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:35 pm

GWW wrote:FlyingHigh, where did Dettman play most of his footy? Did he play in defence at all?

I can imagine that Klug and Jakovich would have had fairly different personalities so that may have affected their on field chemistry.


I always thought Dettman played mainly in the back pocket, but as Hondo mentioned above, must have spent time in the mid-field.

Might have to consult my newly-acquired bible ;)

Probably Jakovich and anyone would have affected on-field chemistry :(
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