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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby AKA » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:14 am

Howgdizhe wrote:
AKA wrote:
Howgdizhe wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:me too :D

You'll be lucky to get half a dozen games out of him.

He's the type that'll trip over a shoe and be out for 6 weeks with a bung leg :lol:

Now Now FC thats not very nice....but funny i like it..lol :lol:

Come to the Rams oldson, It will be like the old days ;)
Youve takin all the $$$ out there old son not that im worth anything these days... :)
You guys wouldnt have many points left would ya to recruit????

Yeah might be able to scrounge a few lettuces for the howgdizhe, forward pocket role crumbing of Nicholas, would be nice ;)
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:51 am

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Mythical Creature wrote:Not sure about any imaginary sources Ace, but I have been told of a few things that have come from the meeting. ;)

Basically points rule is the same as before except no deductions for senior colt performance and all players who were not imports last year will be 0 point players. Some examples of these players to my knowledge are Jack Chapman and Matt Pascoe for us and I think Andrew Hunt from Hummocks.

We have been told that we will be using Burley footys for another 3 years as well. :roll:


Bloody typical - we don't want to incentivise clubs to promote their U17's do we :roll:



Jumbo I was talking about TW and Balak being penalised for having their colts win so many games and getting two points taken off their allowance. The -1 point if you play a colt still exists and won't change.


Ok - thanks for clearing that up MC - thought it was a step in the wrong direction - good to see they haven't taken the "-1" for a colt.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Fog Horn Leg Horn » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:20 pm

Two Wells Football Club will holding a meet the coaches at Two Wells Oval on Thursday 25th November 2010 at 6.30pm. The Senior Coach of the Two Wells Football club for 2010 will be Mark 'Bugsy' Thompson who was the A-Grade Assitant Coach this season and was the 2006 & 2007 A-Grade Premiership Coach of the Blyth-Snowtown Football Club. Club legend Neville 'Cheeky' Seccafien will be the A-Grade Assistant Coach next season while Peter 'Macca' Macmillan will be continuing as Reserves Coach. A BBQ will be provided. All current and new players are welcome to attend.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:23 pm

Fog Horn Leg Horn wrote:Two Wells Football Club will holding a meet the coaches at Two Wells Oval on Thursday 25th November 2010 at 6.30pm. The Senior Coach of the Two Wells Football club for 2010 will be Mark 'Bugsy' Thompson who was the A-Grade Assitant Coach this season and was the 2006 & 2007 A-Grade Premiership Coach of the Blyth-Snowtown Football Club. Club legend Neville 'Cheeky' Seccafien will be the A-Grade Assistant Coach next season while Peter 'Macca' Macmillan will be continuing as Reserves Coach. A BBQ will be provided. All current and new players are welcome to attend.


ThNks for the invite foggy, will I be seeing u there?
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby wangas#4 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:01 am

Herbie wrote:Is there any truth that Cameron Faulkner signed for Mallala last night


I am lead to belive he is staying at Kadina for big $$$$.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:08 am

Herbie wrote:Is there any truth that Cameron Faulkner signed for Mallala last night


nope
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:10 am

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UNDERthePACK wrote:The way that I understand it (correct me if a am wrong MC) is the players that came to a club as imports last year, 2010 will attract points against them however any player that played at the club prior to 2010 will not be issued points against whether they were locals or imports. There is no longer locals or imports its all points based which will get a little confusing when a player from (lets say) Div 1 amatuers moves into Two Wells and wants to play footy for the Roosters then he will still attract 3 points even though he has moved into Two Wells. I think this part will cause the major grief as clubs may not be able to fit new locals into their sides.


That sums it up nicely I think Under. People definately need to get rid of the terms "locals and imports" as they don't exist anymore. All players are now rated on their playing history not on their residential location.


I believe you can still apply to the league for an exemption, as in the case with our new player from Berri, if a new player moves into your area for employment then you can apply for them to worth 0 points if their points (3) takes you over your limit.


Hopefully not!! This would make a mockery of the system if thats the case
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Shh..Listen2me » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:01 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
Hazbeen wrote:
Mythical Creature wrote:
UNDERthePACK wrote:The way that I understand it (correct me if a am wrong MC) is the players that came to a club as imports last year, 2010 will attract points against them however any player that played at the club prior to 2010 will not be issued points against whether they were locals or imports. There is no longer locals or imports its all points based which will get a little confusing when a player from (lets say) Div 1 amatuers moves into Two Wells and wants to play footy for the Roosters then he will still attract 3 points even though he has moved into Two Wells. I think this part will cause the major grief as clubs may not be able to fit new locals into their sides.


That sums it up nicely I think Under. People definately need to get rid of the terms "locals and imports" as they don't exist anymore. All players are now rated on their playing history not on their residential location.


I believe you can still apply to the league for an exemption, as in the case with our new player from Berri, if a new player moves into your area for employment then you can apply for them to worth 0 points if their points (3) takes you over your limit.


Hopefully not!! This would make a mockery of the system if thats the case


If clubs could apply for an exemption then Hamley's population would grow from 620 to 630 people living in the town during the Footy Season (only an example Hamley people).
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Goldberg » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:10 am

As I have stated on so many threads already, this type of exemption will simply not be extended in any league across the state!!

All a player/club has to do for this to be a real problem, is get a mail box at the local PO, and the are "LEGALLY" living there. They pick up there mail each Saturday, & there is absolutely nothing the league can do about it. No league will do this if they are smart
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Woofa » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:58 am

Goldberg wrote:As I have stated on so many threads already, this type of exemption will simply not be extended in any league across the state!!

All a player/club has to do for this to be a real problem, is get a mail box at the local PO, and the are "LEGALLY" living there. They pick up there mail each Saturday, & there is absolutely nothing the league can do about it. No league will do this if they are smart


I agree. I don't like this system at all but if we have to have then we have to do right!
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Hazbeen » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:58 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:
Hazbeen wrote:
Mythical Creature wrote:
UNDERthePACK wrote:The way that I understand it (correct me if a am wrong MC) is the players that came to a club as imports last year, 2010 will attract points against them however any player that played at the club prior to 2010 will not be issued points against whether they were locals or imports. There is no longer locals or imports its all points based which will get a little confusing when a player from (lets say) Div 1 amatuers moves into Two Wells and wants to play footy for the Roosters then he will still attract 3 points even though he has moved into Two Wells. I think this part will cause the major grief as clubs may not be able to fit new locals into their sides.


That sums it up nicely I think Under. People definately need to get rid of the terms "locals and imports" as they don't exist anymore. All players are now rated on their playing history not on their residential location.


I believe you can still apply to the league for an exemption, as in the case with our new player from Berri, if a new player moves into your area for employment then you can apply for them to worth 0 points if their points (3) takes you over your limit.


Hopefully not!! This would make a mockery of the system if thats the case


We were told this by our league rep at our AGM. It is not for the case of people being registered as living in the town it is for genuine move into the town for employment cases. We did not recruit this player he moved to Balak for his career.

Lets put it this way. Player A moves into Mallala has he is a school teacher and has been transferred to the local primary school. Player A lives and works in the town and decides he would like to have a kick and a catch with one of the local clubs. However Player A has previously played league footy in a country league 500 km's away so as an import just like Player B recruited from the SAFA who still lives in Adelaide is worth 3 points. Mallala doesn't have enough points left for Player A nor does United nor any of the Gawler clubs so the only option for Player A is travel back to the club he played for last season.

Imagine if this was the case when Mick Hunt moved into Mallala and wandered over the road to training and asked if he could have a kick. Mallala did not know he was coming and simply had a medal winning player move into the town. Under the current system the Pies would have had to say to big Mick "sorry mate all full up here" or sack one of the Adelaide recruits of the day to fit him in.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Goldberg » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:10 pm

Wonderful post there Hazbeen, & "COULDN"T AGREE MORE" with what you are saying, but unfortunately that is the way it has to be!! If they open this loop hole, the rich clubs of every league will take advantage, & you may as well not have the system at all :evil:
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:20 pm

Hazbeen wrote:
We were told this by our league rep at our AGM. It is not for the case of people being registered as living in the town it is for genuine move into the town for employment cases. We did not recruit this player he moved to Balak for his career.

Lets put it this way. Player A moves into Mallala has he is a school teacher and has been transferred to the local primary school. Player A lives and works in the town and decides he would like to have a kick and a catch with one of the local clubs. However Player A has previously played league footy in a country league 500 km's away so as an import just like Player B recruited from the SAFA who still lives in Adelaide is worth 3 points. Mallala doesn't have enough points left for Player A nor does United nor any of the Gawler clubs so the only option for Player A is travel back to the club he played for last season.

Imagine if this was the case when Mick Hunt moved into Mallala and wandered over the road to training and asked if he could have a kick. Mallala did not know he was coming and simply had a medal winning player move into the town. Under the current system the Pies would have had to say to big Mick "sorry mate all full up here" or sack one of the Adelaide recruits of the day to fit him in.


Agree, but we all know it opens itself up to many implications. Such consideration for exemptions would just be a nightmare given the current decision making process that seems to be so inconsistent in the APFL. At least for Balak I guess that this player has come in Oct, so they can recruit knowing they have already used 3 points up, a different story if he arrives in May and the clubs wants an exemption to increase their points allocation by 3 over the limit.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:24 pm

Hazbeen wrote:We were told this by our league rep at our AGM. It is not for the case of people being registered as living in the town it is for genuine move into the town for employment cases. We did not recruit this player he moved to Balak for his career.

Lets put it this way. Player A moves into Mallala has he is a school teacher and has been transferred to the local primary school. Player A lives and works in the town and decides he would like to have a kick and a catch with one of the local clubs. However Player A has previously played league footy in a country league 500 km's away so as an import just like Player B recruited from the SAFA who still lives in Adelaide is worth 3 points. Mallala doesn't have enough points left for Player A nor does United nor any of the Gawler clubs so the only option for Player A is travel back to the club he played for last season.

Imagine if this was the case when Mick Hunt moved into Mallala and wandered over the road to training and asked if he could have a kick. Mallala did not know he was coming and simply had a medal winning player move into the town. Under the current system the Pies would have had to say to big Mick "sorry mate all full up here" or sack one of the Adelaide recruits of the day to fit him in.


Totally understand your point Hazbeen, but he will still be 3 points to Balak. There is no clause for professionals that I'm aware of and nor should there be. If a clause like that did come in where does that leave smaller clubs like United?

Professionals will only help the bigger towns in each league as obviously there is more employment opportunities, but the bigger towns also obviously have more junior numbers to choose from as well. :? So you are basically wanting more 0 point players than most of the comp (more juniors) and then an exemption on top because you have the ability to attract players with employment opportunities.

**** OFF TO THAT!
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Drop Bear » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:30 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:
Hazbeen wrote:We were told this by our league rep at our AGM. It is not for the case of people being registered as living in the town it is for genuine move into the town for employment cases. We did not recruit this player he moved to Balak for his career.

Lets put it this way. Player A moves into Mallala has he is a school teacher and has been transferred to the local primary school. Player A lives and works in the town and decides he would like to have a kick and a catch with one of the local clubs. However Player A has previously played league footy in a country league 500 km's away so as an import just like Player B recruited from the SAFA who still lives in Adelaide is worth 3 points. Mallala doesn't have enough points left for Player A nor does United nor any of the Gawler clubs so the only option for Player A is travel back to the club he played for last season.

Imagine if this was the case when Mick Hunt moved into Mallala and wandered over the road to training and asked if he could have a kick. Mallala did not know he was coming and simply had a medal winning player move into the town. Under the current system the Pies would have had to say to big Mick "sorry mate all full up here" or sack one of the Adelaide recruits of the day to fit him in.


Totally understand your point Hazbeen, but he will still be 3 points to Balak. There is no clause for professionals that I'm aware of and nor should there be. If a clause like that did come in where does that leave smaller clubs like United?

Professionals will only help the bigger towns in each league as obviously there is more employment opportunities, but the bigger towns also obviously have more junior numbers to choose from as well. :? So you are basically wanting more 0 point players than most of the comp (more juniors) and then an exemption on top because you have the ability to attract players with employment opportunities.

**** OFF TO THAT!


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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Ace of Spades » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:33 pm

As far as I'm aware our club has taken what Hazbeen is saying to be the case, that excemption can be applied for to the board…who will use their wisdom coupled with common sense to make a decision :D
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:57 pm

Ace of Spades wrote:As far as I'm aware our club has taken what Hazbeen is saying to be the case, that excemption can be applied for to the board…who will use their wisdom coupled with common sense to make a decision :D


Ace I have just re-read the APPS and found this....

An Affiliated League has the delegation to vary the additional points where a player is required
to relocate from one township to another within the same affiliated league.


As you can see, that only applies for internal league transfers. ie: Virginia to Port Wakefield.

Couldn't find anything to sugguest what you and Hazbeen are suggesting and it also states that all changes to the APPS for the following season are to be implemented by 31st July in the preceeding season. So it can't be changed for next year at all.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:21 pm

:D. Does this mean there is a 2010 A grade premiership player from Berri on the market?? :D just kiddig Hazbeen..
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:25 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote::D. Does this mean there is a 2010 A grade premiership player from Berri on the market?? :D just kiddig Hazbeen..


Thats what I was thinking too Donkey! ;)
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:16 pm

I'm surprised jumbo hasn't come on yet and given his 2 cents worth. That would make him like the league directors more
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