Adelaide Plains Football League

[Fog Horn Leg Horn]

Perhaps if a player moves into the local area and is residing within the boundarys which existed under the locals/ imports policy and the player moves here for employment purposes maybe he should receive a -1 point deduction from the points he is allocated based on where he previously played. This would work similar to playing a senior colt in the A-Grade.

[OnSong]

The Riverland Football League had the work professionals allowance in the points system.
Players moving to the region as a professional specifically for work were exempt from being counted as points.
Those recruited from outside the region and given a job by a club were still points.
The league investigated each case and a common sense solution was met more often than not.
Players in question were interviewed by league delegates and had to provide a signed letter from their employer stating they had moved to the town for work purposes.
This applied to those in a qualified profession. (Not working in a bar at the pub for example)

Clubs may find ways to slightly bend the rules to gain an exemption, by say recruiting a player and a sponsor giving them a job (such as a tradie etc).
But even if they do, it's better to have someone working and living in the rural community as opposed to coming up from town each weekend.
It's win/win IMO

[Swamp Donkey]

Perhaps if a player moves into the local area and is residing within the boundarys which existed under the locals/ imports policy and the player moves here for employment purposes maybe he should receive a -1 point deduction from the points he is allocated based on where he previously played. This would work similar to playing a senior colt in the A-Grade.

That'll work well

[mighty hounds]

Perhaps if a player moves into the local area and is residing within the boundarys which existed under the locals/ imports policy and the player moves here for employment purposes maybe he should receive a -1 point deduction from the points he is allocated based on where he previously played. This would work similar to playing a senior colt in the A-Grade.

That'll work well

Sarcasm swamp?

[Mythical Creature]

Perhaps if a player moves into the local area and is residing within the boundarys which existed under the locals/ imports policy and the player moves here for employment purposes maybe he should receive a -1 point deduction from the points he is allocated based on where he previously played. This would work similar to playing a senior colt in the A-Grade.

But we don't have the import/local rule anymore. This is the biggest negative with the points system is that it doesn't cater for people who just move areas naturally and turn up in a town. They all count as points.

I personally don't understand why you would even want to have a "professionals" clause as it will only ever help the bigger towns, who also have more juniors.

What is a "professional" anyway? I personally have never thought a Journalist is a "professional" but that is just my opinon. Where do you draw the line? Is a truck driver a "professional"? You could argue that they are because they are a specialist in their field (ie: not just any joe blow can transport dangerous goods).

[OnSong]

Perhaps if a player moves into the local area and is residing within the boundarys which existed under the locals/ imports policy and the player moves here for employment purposes maybe he should receive a -1 point deduction from the points he is allocated based on where he previously played. This would work similar to playing a senior colt in the A-Grade.

But we don't have the import/local rule anymore. This is the biggest negative with the points system is that it doesn't cater for people who just move areas naturally and turn up in a town. They all count as points.

I personally don't understand why you would even want to have a "professionals" clause as it will only ever help the bigger towns, who also have more juniors.

What is a "professional" anyway? I personally have never thought a Journalist is a "professional" but that is just my opinon. Where do you draw the line? Is a truck driver a "professional"? You could argue that they are because they are a specialist in their field (ie: not just any joe blow can transport dangerous goods).

Professional: (n) A professional is a member of a vocation founded upon specialised educational training.

[Mythical Creature]

Perhaps if a player moves into the local area and is residing within the boundarys which existed under the locals/ imports policy and the player moves here for employment purposes maybe he should receive a -1 point deduction from the points he is allocated based on where he previously played. This would work similar to playing a senior colt in the A-Grade.

But we don't have the import/local rule anymore. This is the biggest negative with the points system is that it doesn't cater for people who just move areas naturally and turn up in a town. They all count as points.

I personally don't understand why you would even want to have a "professionals" clause as it will only ever help the bigger towns, who also have more juniors.

What is a "professional" anyway? I personally have never thought a Journalist is a "professional" but that is just my opinon. Where do you draw the line? Is a truck driver a "professional"? You could argue that they are because they are a specialist in their field (ie: not just any joe blow can transport dangerous goods).

Professional: (n) A professional is a member of a vocation founded upon specialised educational training.

Does it really matter? We don't have a professional clause that I'm aware of. Looks like you will have 3 points next to your name when you play for Balak next year.

[OnSong]

Perhaps if a player moves into the local area and is residing within the boundarys which existed under the locals/ imports policy and the player moves here for employment purposes maybe he should receive a -1 point deduction from the points he is allocated based on where he previously played. This would work similar to playing a senior colt in the A-Grade.

But we don't have the import/local rule anymore. This is the biggest negative with the points system is that it doesn't cater for people who just move areas naturally and turn up in a town. They all count as points.

I personally don't understand why you would even want to have a "professionals" clause as it will only ever help the bigger towns, who also have more juniors.

What is a "professional" anyway? I personally have never thought a Journalist is a "professional" but that is just my opinon. Where do you draw the line? Is a truck driver a "professional"? You could argue that they are because they are a specialist in their field (ie: not just any joe blow can transport dangerous goods).

Professional: (n) A professional is a member of a vocation founded upon specialised educational training.

Does it really matter? We don't have a professional clause that I'm aware of. Looks like you will have 3 points next to your name when you play for Balak next year.

You did ask what a professional was. I merely provided an answer.
From my EXPERIENCE with the points system, there is some form of allowance. Whether this is carried over to the APFL we'll see.

[Mythical Creature]

You did ask what a professional was. I merely provided an answer.
From my EXPERIENCE with the points system, there is some form of allowance. Whether this is carried over to the APFL we'll see.

•A person who belongs to a profession; A person who earns his living from a specified activity; An expert; Of, pertaining to, or in accordance with the standards of a profession; That is carried out for money, especially as a livelihood; Expert

Too many loopholes for mine. You could argue that a cleaner could potentially be a professional with the above wording.

I certainly hope that the board don't let this one through as it will create a massive can of worms and certainly give the bigger towns a further advantage than they already have.

[OnSong]

You did ask what a professional was. I merely provided an answer.
From my EXPERIENCE with the points system, there is some form of allowance. Whether this is carried over to the APFL we'll see.

•A person who belongs to a profession; A person who earns his living from a specified activity; An expert; Of, pertaining to, or in accordance with the standards of a profession; That is carried out for money, especially as a livelihood; Expert

Too many loopholes for mine. You could argue that a cleaner could potentially be a professional with the above wording.

I certainly hope that the board don't let this one through as it will create a massive can of worms and certainly give the bigger towns a further advantage than they already have.

WTF? You've picked a definition miles out of the context it is meant to be applied under MC.
To put it simply "professional" covers "professions" where an apprenticeship or uni degree is needed to be accredited to do the work.

EG:

Professionals:
Carpenter
Accountant
Lawyer
Plumber

Not professionals:
Truck drivers
Hospitality workers
Sales assistants
Labourers

Did that make it any clearer?

[Mythical Creature]

You did ask what a professional was. I merely provided an answer.
From my EXPERIENCE with the points system, there is some form of allowance. Whether this is carried over to the APFL we'll see.

•A person who belongs to a profession; A person who earns his living from a specified activity; An expert; Of, pertaining to, or in accordance with the standards of a profession; That is carried out for money, especially as a livelihood; Expert

Too many loopholes for mine. You could argue that a cleaner could potentially be a professional with the above wording.

I certainly hope that the board don't let this one through as it will create a massive can of worms and certainly give the bigger towns a further advantage than they already have.

WTF? You've picked a definition miles out of the context it is meant to be applied under MC.

Well I googled "what is a professional" and thats what came up.

But that is kind of my point. Too many loopholes in the professional clause unless the league stated specific occupations. But like I said earlier any changes need to be made by 31st July in the preceeding year, so by my reckoning it shouldn't even be considered.

If Balak don't have enough points for you OnSong, then let me know, cause I'm fairly certain we have plenty of points to spare at this stage and the club could organise transportation for you from Balak as there are a couple of lads that already live in that town.

[OnSong]

I'm not concerned with points, nor have I officially spoken with any clubs.
I think there needs to be some allowance though in the APPS. I could be a dead set spud and costing any team three points they could have used scouting out someone else.
Anyway, I'm doing some research now to see what sort of implications and applications this whole player points system will have. I'm sure it won't please everyone regardless what comes out of it.
Reading it now, it does mention this:

"Each Affiliated League Club will be allocated a “Total Points Rating of up to and including 15 points” for each Season based on the position on the premiership table of each clubs Senior Team at the end of the preceding Season, or on such other criteria as may be approved by the Board
Example:
Clubs which finished at the top of the premiership table at the end of the preceding season will be allocated a lower Total Points Rating then those Clubs finishing at the lower end of the premiership table which will be allocated a higher Total Points Rating.
Thus, in a 10 team competition the top four clubs could be allocated 10 points, the next three clubs 12 points and the bottom three clubs 15 points."

[mighty hounds]

I'm not concerned with points, nor have I officially spoken with any clubs.
I think there needs to be some allowance though in the APPS. I could be a dead set spud and costing any team three points they could have used scouting out someone else.
Anyway, I'm doing some research now to see what sort of implications and applications this whole player points system will have. I'm sure it won't please everyone regardless what comes out of it.
Reading it now, it does mention this:

"Each Affiliated League Club will be allocated a “Total Points Rating of up to and including 15 points” for each Season based on the position on the premiership table of each clubs Senior Team at the end of the preceding Season, or on such other criteria as may be approved by the Board
Example:
Clubs which finished at the top of the premiership table at the end of the preceding season will be allocated a lower Total Points Rating then those Clubs finishing at the lower end of the premiership table which will be allocated a higher Total Points Rating.
Thus, in a 10 team competition the top four clubs could be allocated 10 points, the next three clubs 12 points and the bottom three clubs 15 points."

So ur classing urself as a spud even though u played in an A grade premiership?

[OnSong]

I'm not concerned with points, nor have I officially spoken with any clubs.
I think there needs to be some allowance though in the APPS. I could be a dead set spud and costing any team three points they could have used scouting out someone else.
Anyway, I'm doing some research now to see what sort of implications and applications this whole player points system will have. I'm sure it won't please everyone regardless what comes out of it.
Reading it now, it does mention this:

"Each Affiliated League Club will be allocated a “Total Points Rating of up to and including 15 points” for each Season based on the position on the premiership table of each clubs Senior Team at the end of the preceding Season, or on such other criteria as may be approved by the Board
Example:
Clubs which finished at the top of the premiership table at the end of the preceding season will be allocated a lower Total Points Rating then those Clubs finishing at the lower end of the premiership table which will be allocated a higher Total Points Rating.
Thus, in a 10 team competition the top four clubs could be allocated 10 points, the next three clubs 12 points and the bottom three clubs 15 points."

So ur classing urself as a spud even though u played in an A grade premiership?

I could be an Aaron Keating

[mighty hounds]

I'm not concerned with points, nor have I officially spoken with any clubs.
I think there needs to be some allowance though in the APPS. I could be a dead set spud and costing any team three points they could have used scouting out someone else.
Anyway, I'm doing some research now to see what sort of implications and applications this whole player points system will have. I'm sure it won't please everyone regardless what comes out of it.
Reading it now, it does mention this:

"Each Affiliated League Club will be allocated a “Total Points Rating of up to and including 15 points” for each Season based on the position on the premiership table of each clubs Senior Team at the end of the preceding Season, or on such other criteria as may be approved by the Board
Example:
Clubs which finished at the top of the premiership table at the end of the preceding season will be allocated a lower Total Points Rating then those Clubs finishing at the lower end of the premiership table which will be allocated a higher Total Points Rating.
Thus, in a 10 team competition the top four clubs could be allocated 10 points, the next three clubs 12 points and the bottom three clubs 15 points."

So ur classing urself as a spud even though u played in an A grade premiership?

I could be an Aaron Keating

Good Call

[Swamp Donkey]

I'm not concerned with points, nor have I officially spoken with any clubs.
I think there needs to be some allowance though in the APPS.

I could be a dead set spud and costing any team three points they could have used scouting out someone else.

Well that is up to the footy club whether or not they play you, if your a spud I'd doubt they'd be keen to blow 3 points on you anyway depending on their situation with other high-point-value players.

PS I find it bizarre that you havent spoken to a club at this stage of the year, what is the logic in that other than hoping to miss pre-season training?

[DKL]

Did Brad Fitzgerald get the flick from Two Wells with his old man?

[mighty hounds]

Did Brad Fitzgerald get the flick from Two Wells with his old man?

Nah don't think that I've been given the flick DKL.

[OnSong]

I'm not concerned with points, nor have I officially spoken with any clubs.
I think there needs to be some allowance though in the APPS.

I could be a dead set spud and costing any team three points they could have used scouting out someone else.

Well that is up to the footy club whether or not they play you, if your a spud I'd doubt they'd be keen to blow 3 points on you anyway depending on their situation with other high-point-value players.

PS I find it bizarre that you havent spoken to a club at this stage of the year, what is the logic in that other than hoping to miss pre-season training?

Preseason training starts in January for most clubs???

[mighty hounds]

I'm not concerned with poin
ts, nor have I officially spoken with any clubs.
I think there needs to be some allowance though in the APPS.

I could be a dead set spud and costing any team three points they could have used scouting out someone else.

Well that is up to the footy club whether or not they play you, if your a spud I'd doubt they'd be keen to blow 3 points on you anyway depending on their situation with other high-point-value players.

PS I find it bizarre that you havent spoken to a club at this stage of the year, what is the logic in that other than hoping to miss pre-season training?

Preseason training starts in January for most clubs???

We start Jan 17