1978 The year it was

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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby baggy8 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:42 pm

bayman wrote:I think it says a lot for Nunan that he was willing to undertake the thankless task of coaching the AFL's sacrificial lamb, Fitzroy, in their last year of existence in 1996; something he did with class and dignity.



baggy8, he did, until he knew there was no next year & a bloke named mcconnell (alan or albert i think) took over


Fair enough bayman. I'll just rephrase that a little and say I think it says a lot for Nunan that he was willing to undertake the thankless task of coaching the AFL's sacrificial lamb, Fitzroy, for the first fourteen games in their last year of existence in 1996; something he did with class and dignity.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby bayman » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:16 pm

baggy8 wrote:
bayman wrote:I think it says a lot for Nunan that he was willing to undertake the thankless task of coaching the AFL's sacrificial lamb, Fitzroy, in their last year of existence in 1996; something he did with class and dignity.



baggy8, he did, until he knew there was no next year & a bloke named mcconnell (alan or albert i think) took over


Fair enough bayman. I'll just rephrase that a little and say I think it says a lot for Nunan that he was willing to undertake the thankless task of coaching the AFL's sacrificial lamb, Fitzroy, for the first fourteen games in their last year of existence in 1996; something he did with class and dignity.



agreed 100% (as do 99% of coaches at every team)
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:19 pm

bayman wrote:a bloke named mcconnell (alan or albert i think) took over


Alan McConnell. He played a bit for Footscray in the early 80s but played mainly VFA I think. He had the unique distinction of being caretaker coach at the same club 2 years running. He replaced the sacked Bernie Quinlan in 1995, and then took over from Nunan in 1996 when he quit. After that he was appointed as Assistanced Coach to Gary Ayres at Geelong.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby bayman » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:22 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
bayman wrote:a bloke named mcconnell (alan or albert i think) took over


Alan McConnell. He played a bit for Footscray in the early 80s but played mainly VFA I think. He had the unique distinction of being caretaker coach at the same club 2 years running. He replaced the sacked Bernie Quinlan in 1995, and then took over from Nunan in 1996 when he quit. After that he was appointed as Assistanced Coach to Gary Ayres at Geelong.



that is quite amazing......has that ever happened before or after ?
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:24 pm

bayman wrote:
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bayman wrote:a bloke named mcconnell (alan or albert i think) took over


Alan McConnell. He played a bit for Footscray in the early 80s but played mainly VFA I think. He had the unique distinction of being caretaker coach at the same club 2 years running. He replaced the sacked Bernie Quinlan in 1995, and then took over from Nunan in 1996 when he quit. After that he was appointed as Assistanced Coach to Gary Ayres at Geelong.



that is quite amazing......has that ever happened before or after ?


I don't think so, but then I don't know for certain.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby bayman » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:37 pm

thanks AH
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby baggy8 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:43 pm

bayman wrote:Alan McConnell. He played a bit for Footscray in the early 80s but played mainly VFA I think. He had the unique distinction of being caretaker coach at the same club 2 years running. He replaced the sacked Bernie Quinlan in 1995, and then took over from Nunan in 1996 when he quit. After that he was appointed as Assistanced Coach to Gary Ayres at Geelong.


Not his fault of course, but poor old Alan McConnell didn't win a game in either Fitzroy spell (11 games in total). At least Micky Nunan won a game, even if it was only against Freo.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby Leaping Lindner » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:44 pm

baggy8 wrote:Can't let this topic race too far ahead without putting in a word for Mick Nunan. As often seems to be the case with players who achieve great success as coaches, their playing deeds tend to be overlooked. Nunan was one of the most underrated players of his era and IMO integral to Sturt's success. He had no peers in his courage and ability to dive in to packs and get the ball out with incisive handball.

Unfortunately (for his Sturt career), he realized that there was more to life than football and in 1978 he missed several games at the start of the season while he was undertaking an overseas study tour. When he returned, Jack Oatey told Mick that he was no longer wanted at Sturt as he (Jack) only wanted players who were dedicated to the cause (or words to that effect). Nunan didn't want to leave and I'm sure he would've given Sturt his all for the rest of the season. One can understand both points of view, but in such a situation the coach must always win and Mick was off to Norwood. Incredibly Sturt club chairman David Wark found it necessary to publicly say that "During recent years it has become obvious the philosophies of Mike Nunan have no longer been compatible with the Sturt Football Club."

So many North players who played under Nunan have said that he was the best coach they ever had and that he had a profound positive effect on their lives off the field as well. I think it says a lot for Nunan that he was willing to undertake the thankless task of coaching the AFL's sacrificial lamb, Fitzroy, in their last year of existence in 1996; something he did with class and dignity.


Davies ; Bagshaw ; Nunan. Argueably the best first ruck of the 70's in the SANFL.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby bayman » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:56 pm

or carey, cornes & hodgeman ;)
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:24 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:Davies ; Bagshaw ; Nunan. Argueably the best first ruck of the 70's in the SANFL.


Interesting debate, but I'd probably opt for this as well.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby mal » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:24 pm

OATEY-NUNAN

Leading up to 1978
It would have been interesting how often Robert Oatey stood Mick Nunan
I could imagine the stats for each of them on a norMAL day as each having :
12 kicks + 20 handballs each
They might rack up as much as 50 handballs between them if they stood each other

When you think of courageous ballgetters in the late 60s to 1978, these 2 guys were 2 of the best
Ironically Nunan ended up at NW + Oatey was at ST this 1978 season
Oatey played 1 game only [WAS THIS THE LAST GAME OATEY PLAYED ????}
Nunan played 9


I often think that the Hammond Premierships of 75 + 78 were a result of some of the hard work Bob Oatey put in at NW
NW were spooners I reckon in 68 when Oatey introduced some youth and rebuilt the club ?
No disrespect to Bob Hammond, but he did get a good list to work with, but importantly did get some flags
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby mal » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:34 pm

Advert footy budget September 1978

OUR GIRL OF THE YEAR
Football Budget readers have voted pretty Heather Cornes as our girl of the year
Heather is one of 20 girls who were photographed at the football during the season
When we contacted Heather with the good news earlier this week, she had just returned from a weekend at the snow
But when she is not skiing , Heather never misses watching Glenelg play

QUESTION
Is she related to Studley Cornes ?
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:36 pm

mal wrote:Is she related to Studley Cornes ?


If she's attractive, I doubt it :)
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby smithy » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:54 pm

baggy8 wrote:Can't let this topic race too far ahead without putting in a word for Mick Nunan. As often seems to be the case with players who achieve great success as coaches, their playing deeds tend to be overlooked. Nunan was one of the most underrated players of his era and IMO integral to Sturt's success. He had no peers in his courage and ability to dive in to packs and get the ball out with incisive handball.

Unfortunately (for his Sturt career), he realized that there was more to life than football and in 1978 he missed several games at the start of the season while he was undertaking an overseas study tour. When he returned, Jack Oatey told Mick that he was no longer wanted at Sturt as he (Jack) only wanted players who were dedicated to the cause (or words to that effect). Nunan didn't want to leave and I'm sure he would've given Sturt his all for the rest of the season. One can understand both points of view, but in such a situation the coach must always win and Mick was off to Norwood. Incredibly Sturt club chairman David Wark found it necessary to publicly say that "During recent years it has become obvious the philosophies of Mike Nunan have no longer been compatible with the Sturt Football Club."

So many North players who played under Nunan have said that he was the best coach they ever had and that he had a profound positive effect on their lives off the field as well. I think it says a lot for Nunan that he was willing to undertake the thankless task of coaching the AFL's sacrificial lamb, Fitzroy, in their last year of existence in 1996; something he did with class and dignity.

Interersting stuff baggy.
I always thought that upon returning from overseas, Nunan asked to leave as he wasn't too happy at earning his spot back due to the emergence of Jim Derrington.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:19 pm

I've never quite known where I sit with Mike Nunan. Obviously a great rover, and many Sturt supporters have told me if Nunan had worn a double blue jumper instead of a red & blue one in the 1978 GF, Sturt would never have been beaten.

I can understand Mike's annoyance with Sturt's dismissal of him, but I thought it was a bit much hearing him tell Norwood members that night that the 4 flags he won at Sturt meant nothing to him. In view of that exhibition, I've often wondered about what Nunan said about Norwood when he got to North Adelaide.

It is true that certain people at Norwood indicated to Nunan that he would be coaching the club in 1980. The problem is, those people overstepped their bounds and the people entrusted with the role of appointing a coach opted for Balme instead. Once again, I had no problem with Nunan feeling as though he'd been dudded and his decision to join North.

In the first 5 years of Balme's coaching tenure, he took the club to the finals each year, 3 Grand Finals for 2 flags. For all purposes it appeared as if Norwood's choice was irrefutable.

However, watching Nunan's coaching methods from afar, I've often wondered what sort of success Norwood may have enjoyed had we appointed Nunan. Certainly in the late 80s there would have been none better to manage the Norwood list than Nunan, and I wonder if he may have brought more than the two premierships to Norwood in the 1980s.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby GWW » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:28 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I can understand Mike's annoyance with Sturt's dismissal of him, but I thought it was a bit much hearing him tell Norwood members that night that the 4 flags he won at Sturt meant nothing to him. In view of that exhibition, I've often wondered about what Nunan said about Norwood when he got to North Adelaide.


Thats an interesting story :) He's an interesting and controversial character, and the story described above reminds me a little of the story of how he removed some of Robran's memorabilia from the NAFC clubrooms as a means of demonstrating that the NAFC was to no longer live in past glories.
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby JK » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:54 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I've never quite known where I sit with Mike Nunan. Obviously a great rover, and many Sturt supporters have told me if Nunan had worn a double blue jumper instead of a red & blue one in the 1978 GF, Sturt would never have been beaten.

I can understand Mike's annoyance with Sturt's dismissal of him, but I thought it was a bit much hearing him tell Norwood members that night that the 4 flags he won at Sturt meant nothing to him. In view of that exhibition, I've often wondered about what Nunan said about Norwood when he got to North Adelaide.

It is true that certain people at Norwood indicated to Nunan that he would be coaching the club in 1980. The problem is, those people overstepped their bounds and the people entrusted with the role of appointing a coach opted for Balme instead. Once again, I had no problem with Nunan feeling as though he'd been dudded and his decision to join North.

In the first 5 years of Balme's coaching tenure, he took the club to the finals each year, 3 Grand Finals for 2 flags. For all purposes it appeared as if Norwood's choice was irrefutable.

However, watching Nunan's coaching methods from afar, I've often wondered what sort of success Norwood may have enjoyed had we appointed Nunan. Certainly in the late 80s there would have been none better to manage the Norwood list than Nunan, and I wonder if he may have brought more than the two premierships to Norwood in the 1980s.


Fair post AH ... I always got the feeling that Nunan was so ferocious about the way he tackled his role and the entire culture at North, that it wouldn't have sat well at Norwood where I just couldn't see the powerbrokers behind the scenes relinquishing that much power.

I thought Norwood wasted most/half of the 80's and had a really hard task-master like Nunan been in charge, who knows how differently things might have turned out
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby MagareyLegend » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:19 am

Such a thrashing 1978 has got on this thread so I may as well continue.

Who were the debutants in 1978?
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby mal » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:17 am

Debutants 1978

LINDSAY
Bruce Lindsay by the end of the Minor round had played 12 games
I would assume this was his debut season
He appeared to be the best debutant, an absolute superstar
Then there are the debutant recruits from other clubs to factor in as well

I have the game tallys of the players at the end of the 1978 Minor Round, or when thier teams finished thier finals campaigns
I can verify these game tallys as we go along
Feel free to post or message me for information
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Re: 1978 The year it was

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:48 am

MagareyLegend wrote:Such a thrashing 1978 has got on this thread so I may as well continue.

Who were the debutants in 1978?


Norwood's 1st year players were Gary Menzel, David Armour (East Perth), Brian Adamson (West Perth), Michael Nunan (Sturt), Wayne Phillis (Glenelg), Geoff Clark (Subiaco).

So Gary Menzel was the only rookie.
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