Tubby wrote:I'm all for the idea, and i'm sure Morphy's would vote in favour of it.
Another i would like to maybe see is a MOTM award given out in each GF, this could be voted on by the umps, and i'm sure we have enough ASCA legends to name 7 medals after.
Good idea Tubs. The Moe Medal has a distinct ring to it.
The Moe Medal would be for the Mad Monday celebrations
It takes a special kind of person to do what I do Tubbsy. Oh, and I haven't vomitted in years, well not due to the booze anyways.
wycbloods wrote:The association will be putting to the AGM that we have a 3 week final system in section 1 this upcoming season. It will be up to the clubs to vote for it if they want to trial it for one season.
The proposal would see the season being 10x 2dayers and one 1dayer the first game after xmas. It would also mean that the Section 1 grand final would be a stand alone game on the last weekend in March with all other sections finishing the weekend prior to that.
Be interesting to see what the clubs will do in regards to voting for it.
I like the concept, except I would like to see 2 one day games in the programme. 1 before Xmas, and 1 after. Just my views though, not my club's. I likr the idea of round 1 as a One Dayer with a "Rivalry Round". MPCC v Plympton WYC v ICC Coro v Ramblers Keswick v Sth Rd Cove v Sheidow ANA v Belair (may not be bitter enemies, but all thats left) Good to see some ASCA banter, as I miss the cricket already.
Where does North Haven fit into this Moe? Great proposal from the association!
wycbloods wrote:The association will be putting to the AGM that we have a 3 week final system in section 1 this upcoming season. It will be up to the clubs to vote for it if they want to trial it for one season.
The proposal would see the season being 10x 2dayers and one 1dayer the first game after xmas. It would also mean that the Section 1 grand final would be a stand alone game on the last weekend in March with all other sections finishing the weekend prior to that.
Be interesting to see what the clubs will do in regards to voting for it.
I like the concept, except I would like to see 2 one day games in the programme. 1 before Xmas, and 1 after. Just my views though, not my club's. I likr the idea of round 1 as a One Dayer with a "Rivalry Round". MPCC v Plympton WYC v ICC Coro v Ramblers Keswick v Sth Rd Cove v Sheidow ANA v Belair (may not be bitter enemies, but all thats left) Good to see some ASCA banter, as I miss the cricket already.
Where does North Haven fit into this Moe? Great proposal from the association!
I knew somebody would ask me that. Who is being relegated anyway?
wycbloods wrote:The association will be putting to the AGM that we have a 3 week final system in section 1 this upcoming season. It will be up to the clubs to vote for it if they want to trial it for one season.
The proposal would see the season being 10x 2dayers and one 1dayer the first game after xmas. It would also mean that the Section 1 grand final would be a stand alone game on the last weekend in March with all other sections finishing the weekend prior to that.
Be interesting to see what the clubs will do in regards to voting for it.
I like the concept, except I would like to see 2 one day games in the programme. 1 before Xmas, and 1 after. Just my views though, not my club's. I likr the idea of round 1 as a One Dayer with a "Rivalry Round". MPCC v Plympton WYC v ICC Coro v Ramblers Keswick v Sth Rd Cove v Sheidow ANA v Belair (may not be bitter enemies, but all thats left) Good to see some ASCA banter, as I miss the cricket already.
Where does North Haven fit into this Moe? Great proposal from the association!
I knew somebody would ask me that. Who is being relegated anyway?
20/20 Don't know if this has been raised earlier or not, But my 2c worth The new format of double headers and the association nominating the game day - has worked perfectly.
But - I believe the next step is to make it round robin, so that clubs know that they will play at least 3 20/20's each season - It is very dissapointing to get knocked out 1st round each year, knowing we won't get to play a 20/20 again for another year.. (sour grapes i Know)
could have 4 pools of four teams (or 4 pools of 5 teams - 4 games) - still double headers, 3 games at 3 of the 4 teams home ground, 4th team gets to host the Pool Semi Final. Pool a & b & Pool c & d then play off for the GF
Taking it further - 8 pools of 4 teams.. As it is usually the best 11 from each club that get to play, the lower quality players never get the chance. Teams could now nominate a reserve side to give everyone a go.
People love this form of the game and it should be embraced (many players don't get to play these games at all that can't make there respective sides - more games gives more opportunity)
With the inclusion of SAMCA t20s for some sides (we were one of them last year), we simply played too many Sunday's, and some clubs such as Sheidow played more than us.
It was too hard, too many people not wanting to play all the time. Especially with finals in div 1 looking to go over 3 sat/suns we need to be careful not to burn people out. I'm happy with the current system as it allows the experience but doesn't take away from the main event, the actual section 1 premiership! That's my thoughts anyway
Maybe if enough wanted a Round Robin Format 2 Rounds could be played as Double Headers and 1 or 2 Rounds could follow the District and Turf format of playing on Week Night instead of training, maybe Tuesday Night as Thursday is a bit close to Saturday.
I would still leave the finals on the Sundays to maximise crowds.
CoverKing wrote:With the inclusion of SAMCA t20s for some sides (we were one of them last year), we simply played too many Sunday's, and some clubs such as Sheidow played more than us.
It was too hard, too many people not wanting to play all the time. Especially with finals in div 1 looking to go over 3 sat/suns we need to be careful not to burn people out. I'm happy with the current system as it allows the experience but doesn't take away from the main event, the actual section 1 premiership! That's my thoughts anyway
CKing - My point exactly, the good quality teams get the chance to complian about to much 20/20 - whilst the lower quality sides get just one game per year - Maybee 2
CoverKing wrote:With the inclusion of SAMCA t20s for some sides (we were one of them last year), we simply played too many Sunday's, and some clubs such as Sheidow played more than us.
It was too hard, too many people not wanting to play all the time. Especially with finals in div 1 looking to go over 3 sat/suns we need to be careful not to burn people out. I'm happy with the current system as it allows the experience but doesn't take away from the main event, the actual section 1 premiership! That's my thoughts anyway
CKing - My point exactly, the good quality teams get the chance to complian about to much 20/20 - whilst the lower quality sides get just one game per year - Maybee 2
Being in a suburban year, the format we had this year was/is as good as we will get it IMO
Tiger Couple wrote:Maybe if enough wanted a Round Robin Format 2 Rounds could be played as Double Headers and 1 or 2 Rounds could follow the District and Turf format of playing on Week Night instead of training, maybe Tuesday Night as Thursday is a bit close to Saturday.
I would still leave the finals on the Sundays to maximise crowds.
Sheidow played in 3 competitions last year. SAMCA is dictated on where you finish in the ASCA competition the previous year and the top 8 teams invited to play off to find 2 to represent the association. The third was run by Southern Districts. Southern Cricket Association play theirs of an evening during the week but they also have grounds with lights that can be used to help out. I can't think of many grounds in our association with that luxury (cove, icc, Morphy parks, plympton, coro can use blackwood, north haven, south road - all footy grounds and unsure of the quality of lights for a game). What about all the other teams? Playing games generally won't start till 6 as you get people coming from work and needing to get ready as opposed to being at training then taking their time to get ready.
Good idea in theory but the competition is still in its infancy. And as someone who played in multiple competitions you soon learn there is such a thing as too much cricket! If your proposal is to work you would need groups of 4 and 3 weeks of round robins so you play each team in your group once. The top team would then progress through. But the association would need to nominate grounds and dates for them to be played else the debacle of previous years will rise again.
I know Turf games start at 5.20pm and get played without lights using Pink Balls. Not sure what time SACA start and I'm pretty sure SCA started at 5.20pm.
Not that many grounds have lights good enough to play cricket under them.
Anyway I was just adding to someones idea to get smaller clubs more games. It took Turf a few years to go from knockout format to Round Robin. However they did start with two divisions and use to play Double Headers when possible with the home team having both teams playing.
I guess it is a case of walk before you sprint and let this system settle in for a few years before looking at Round Robin.
Tiger Couple wrote:I know Turf games start at 5.20pm and get played without lights using Pink Balls. Not sure what time SACA start and I'm pretty sure SCA started at 5.20pm.
Not that many grounds have lights good enough to play cricket under them.
Anyway I was just adding to someones idea to get smaller clubs more games. It took Turf a few years to go from knockout format to Round Robin. However they did start with two divisions and use to play Double Headers when possible with the home team having both teams playing.
I guess it is a case of walk before you sprint and let this system settle in for a few years before looking at Round Robin.
Perhaps run 2 seperate divisions so clubs go further that are in lower grades??
Section one/two - Division 1 (pretty much as is at the moment) The rest - Division 2
Nah mate, Not Phil Hughes, apparantly its Steve Smith and Brett Lee, both knocked back contracts for the states and Plympton jumped on-board and signed these players Soo look out every other club!!!!!!!
