by The Patriach » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:29 am
by heater31 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:35 am
by whufc » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:36 am
by Jim05 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:39 am
whufc wrote:I have been calling for this for ages!
Great move SACA
by Footy Smart » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:47 am
by Coach Bombay » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:58 am
Footy Smart wrote:Some of the players who make up the best 44 will try it, some will get bored with it, some will realise they arent a real shot at getting a crack no matter what, some have no desire to play state cricket and so plenty will head back to their club. Comp becomes dilluted and is pointless.
far from the asnwer
by heater31 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:06 am
bays09 wrote:Footy Smart wrote:Some of the players who make up the best 44 will try it, some will get bored with it, some will realise they arent a real shot at getting a crack no matter what, some have no desire to play state cricket and so plenty will head back to their club. Comp becomes dilluted and is pointless.
far from the asnwer
Refreshing to see the other side of it but can you explain what you mean by players will get bored of it? Im assuming from previous comments you have a close association with grade cricket? What do the existing clubs want?
by helicopterking » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:09 am
Footy Smart wrote:Some of the players who make up the best 44 will try it, some will get bored with it, some will realise they arent a real shot at getting a crack no matter what, some have no desire to play state cricket and so plenty will head back to their club. Comp becomes dilluted and is pointless.
far from the asnwer
by whufc » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:40 am
by Footy Smart » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:58 am
bays09 wrote:Footy Smart wrote:Some of the players who make up the best 44 will try it, some will get bored with it, some will realise they arent a real shot at getting a crack no matter what, some have no desire to play state cricket and so plenty will head back to their club. Comp becomes dilluted and is pointless.
far from the asnwer
Refreshing to see the other side of it but can you explain what you mean by players will get bored of it? Im assuming from previous comments you have a close association with grade cricket? What do the existing clubs want?
by heater31 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:03 am
Footy Smart wrote:bays09 wrote:Footy Smart wrote:Some of the players who make up the best 44 will try it, some will get bored with it, some will realise they arent a real shot at getting a crack no matter what, some have no desire to play state cricket and so plenty will head back to their club. Comp becomes dilluted and is pointless.
far from the asnwer
Refreshing to see the other side of it but can you explain what you mean by players will get bored of it? Im assuming from previous comments you have a close association with grade cricket? What do the existing clubs want?
Im not saying grade cricket is the answer either Bays, as it stands there is plenty wrong with it. But this isnt the answer.
can imports play in this comp ie 3/4 of prospect A grade? Usman Qadir etc?
Also, getting rid of the 16 whites and not the 14 whites? laughable - should be the other way around, the majority of development is between 14-17 not 12-14
by Footy Smart » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:06 am
heater31 wrote:Footy Smart wrote:bays09 wrote:Footy Smart wrote:Some of the players who make up the best 44 will try it, some will get bored with it, some will realise they arent a real shot at getting a crack no matter what, some have no desire to play state cricket and so plenty will head back to their club. Comp becomes dilluted and is pointless.
far from the asnwer
Refreshing to see the other side of it but can you explain what you mean by players will get bored of it? Im assuming from previous comments you have a close association with grade cricket? What do the existing clubs want?
Im not saying grade cricket is the answer either Bays, as it stands there is plenty wrong with it. But this isnt the answer.
can imports play in this comp ie 3/4 of prospect A grade? Usman Qadir etc?
Also, getting rid of the 16 whites and not the 14 whites? laughable - should be the other way around, the majority of development is between 14-17 not 12-14
Talented 16 red players pushed up into seniors to fill the void by the premier league players. Leaves the 16's to push up those left over into their team...
by heater31 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:17 am
Footy Smart wrote:heater31 wrote:Footy Smart wrote:bays09 wrote:[quote="Footy Smart"]Some of the players who make up the best 44 will try it, some will get bored with it, some will realise they arent a real shot at getting a crack no matter what, some have no desire to play state cricket and so plenty will head back to their club. Comp becomes dilluted and is pointless.
far from the asnwer
Refreshing to see the other side of it but can you explain what you mean by players will get bored of it? Im assuming from previous comments you have a close association with grade cricket? What do the existing clubs want?
Im not saying grade cricket is the answer either Bays, as it stands there is plenty wrong with it. But this isnt the answer.
can imports play in this comp ie 3/4 of prospect A grade? Usman Qadir etc?
Also, getting rid of the 16 whites and not the 14 whites? laughable - should be the other way around, the majority of development is between 14-17 not 12-14
Talented 16 red players pushed up into seniors to fill the void by the premier league players. Leaves the 16's to push up those left over into their team...
by Footy Smart » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:36 am
Would be up to each club committee to decide what happens there.
I know from my club we have forced to use 16 red players to fill our seniors on 1 occasion already this season plus some that are in our sides on a full time basis
by bulldogproud2 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:47 pm
by whufc » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:50 pm
bulldogproud2 wrote:Sounds too much like the tried (and failed) method that was used at the beginning of the season for two years about a decade ago.
Players, in the main, will not get behind this and will treat it just as trial matches or, at worst, as training. Without an incentive such as a premiership to aim for, players do not perform at their best. Also, the 'club' element which has you striving to give your best for a cause (your mates) is missing and will lead to this becoming a futile competition.
Also, how is it going to be 'launched' in 2012/13 when the season is already half over?? Unless by launched they just mean 'discussed'?
Cheers
by Footy Smart » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:00 pm
whufc wrote:bulldogproud2 wrote:Sounds too much like the tried (and failed) method that was used at the beginning of the season for two years about a decade ago.
Players, in the main, will not get behind this and will treat it just as trial matches or, at worst, as training. Without an incentive such as a premiership to aim for, players do not perform at their best. Also, the 'club' element which has you striving to give your best for a cause (your mates) is missing and will lead to this becoming a futile competition.
Also, how is it going to be 'launched' in 2012/13 when the season is already half over?? Unless by launched they just mean 'discussed'?
Cheers
Agree that's why a two division set up would be better like the English county system.
by whufc » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:02 pm
Footy Smart wrote:whufc wrote:bulldogproud2 wrote:Sounds too much like the tried (and failed) method that was used at the beginning of the season for two years about a decade ago.
Players, in the main, will not get behind this and will treat it just as trial matches or, at worst, as training. Without an incentive such as a premiership to aim for, players do not perform at their best. Also, the 'club' element which has you striving to give your best for a cause (your mates) is missing and will lead to this becoming a futile competition.
Also, how is it going to be 'launched' in 2012/13 when the season is already half over?? Unless by launched they just mean 'discussed'?
Cheers
Agree that's why a two division set up would be better like the English county system.
cant really compare the english country system to SA Grade cricket though. Still not the answer
i know i keep saying its not the answer without giving one, but no point making a change for the sake of it and ending up worse off than before. Which is a possability as not all clubs are not doing the right thing and not adding to cricket in this state
by FlyingHigh » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:11 pm
by Footy Smart » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:13 pm
FlyingHigh wrote:Did think of that whufc, but then how do you judge a player in the second div for Shield selection, and would these players gravitate to the stronger clubs over time.
I know there is a lot of emotion involved, so this idea mightn't be popular, but looking with no team attachment, why not base SANFL clubs and grade clubs around each other?
Don't necessarily have to share the names, but perhaps facilities, medical and gym facilities and personnel, social facilities etc. Sturt, Glenelg, Port, Southern Distrcits, Northern Districts are obvious, Kensington and Prospect merge, TTG and East Torrens merge and align themselves with Norwood, W-WT merge, and Adelaide and Uni merge to form the tenth team.
Cuts teams, perhaps increases grade crickets profile in the general community.
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