Adelaide Plains Football League

[mighty hounds]

Mind you, I really like Tallboy's umpiring and BJ was good on the weekend, just a few of the younger lads aren't catching that drift. Not sure why. Perhaps I'm better off trying it out myself and seeing how hard it is etc.

I agree, I'm sure Doug is a great coach and I understand that the stocks are most probably very low. We had two young blokes Saturday, in fairness to those guys, I just can't understand the logic in that. BJ is probably our best umpire, he should be rostered with a young bloke every week so they can learn from him. Even get Andy Seccafien and Doug himself up in the As to teach these young blokes the ropes, I'm sure they'd develop quicker. Doug and Andy were both there watching and providing plenty of advice at the breaks. When young umpires are overruling each other, it cant be great for their confidence, whereas if an older umpire was to do so, well maybe he'd learn from it a bit more. Who knows!!

I would hate the job, it'd be tough, so I must give them credit for having a crack.

Never had a problem with young Clarky, I rate him up there with BJ fittingly both were awarded last years GF

[roodog]

Not the mail I got Roodog, got told Hamleys midfield dominated stoppages all bar 10-15 in the 3/4 when Virginia made a run (coincided with Young going into the middle apparently). Centre square just in Hamleys favour but around the ground were well on top.

If Virginia were on top as you suggested, Hamleys back 6 must have done a tremendous job to keep the rams to that score.

I was going to mention that Thach must have played down back if he was BOG, but we all know that wouldn't happen

Hamley's backline did do a good job and its midfield dominated around the ground, that's among the resaons it won, despite my observation that it lost the centre clearance count. I might be wrong, but I'd love to see the stats! LOL!

[stork]

I hope somoene has told the boys at Longies they are up for two games this weekend, I also hope Two Wells know they need to play the boys from the water tower this weekend.

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[westy]

I have played in many different leagues and I believe that Adelaide plains footballers are the most disrespectful footballers toward umpires I have ever seen. Whilst the umpires don’t help themselves, they are going to get things wrong. Balaklava and Two wells were disgusting. Swearing at an umpire is not on. Also there are young kids in the crowd that hear fowl mouth footballers. I think something has to be done about the language on the field.

[stork]

I have played in many different leagues and I believe that Adelaide plains footballers are the most disrespectful footballers toward umpires I have ever seen. Whilst the umpires don’t help themselves, they are going to get things wrong. Balaklava and Two wells were disgusting. Swearing at an umpire is not on. Also there are young kids in the crowd that hear fowl mouth footballers. I think something has to be done about the language on the field.

Agreed - Vs Two Wells last fortnight it was the worst i had heard Two Wells. Pretty poor. Not saying United were good but they were much better.

In BLGFA a family friends son was sent from the oval for swearing at the umpire. Wouldnt mind seeing that in the Plains. As much as i hate the card system it might work?!?!

[Lame Choice]

I have played in many different leagues and I believe that Adelaide plains footballers are the most disrespectful footballers toward umpires I have ever seen. Whilst the umpires don’t help themselves, they are going to get things wrong. Balaklava and Two wells were disgusting. Swearing at an umpire is not on. Also there are young kids in the crowd that hear fowl mouth footballers. I think something has to be done about the language on the field.

Agreed - Vs Two Wells last fortnight it was the worst i had heard Two Wells. Pretty poor. Not saying United were good but they were much better.

In BLGFA a family friends son was sent from the oval for swearing at the umpire. Wouldnt mind seeing that in the Plains. As much as i hate the card system it might work?!?!

The APFL is too close to town. Ex-Players don't seem to progress to umpiring now and rather we get young lads and try to develop them. The pathetic set payments don't help. The Peter Kitsche model works for me. Well done to those who give it a go and lets hope some club cultures eventually weed out the people and players who get off on showering abuse. As for the umpires now, I hope they're brave enough to dish out 25M for every expletive, whether from Player/Supporter (or goal umpire ) until people get the message

[magpieeagle]

I have played in many different leagues and I believe that Adelaide plains footballers are the most disrespectful footballers toward umpires I have ever seen. Whilst the umpires don’t help themselves, they are going to get things wrong. Balaklava and Two wells were disgusting. Swearing at an umpire is not on. Also there are young kids in the crowd that hear fowl mouth footballers. I think something has to be done about the language on the field.

Agreed - Vs Two Wells last fortnight it was the worst i had heard Two Wells. Pretty poor. Not saying United were good but they were much better.

In BLGFA a family friends son was sent from the oval for swearing at the umpire. Wouldnt mind seeing that in the Plains. As much as i hate the card system it might work?!?!

The APFL is too close to town. Ex-Players don't seem to progress to umpiring now and rather we get young lads and try to develop them. The pathetic set payments don't help. The Peter Kitsche model works for me. Well done to those who give it a go and lets hope some club cultures eventually weed out the people and players who get off on showering abuse. As for the umpires now, I hope they're brave enough to dish out 25M for every expletive, whether from Player/Supporter (or goal umpire ) until people get the message

Remember,no umpires no game,simple,i will watch to see how many here take up umpiring or anything when they stop playing,0%

[grasshopper22]

D king seems to be in the best every wk for the pies, having another good season it seems

[Freaky Tah]

Laid hands on two contests on the weekend. I was in front, got a clear set of mits on them, only for the mark to be paid by old mate behind me. Also got badly tripped in the forward (our back) pocket by a stray foot that wasn't called.

I did blow up about a holding the ball call against me which was right, but that was more out of embarrassment than anything.

Seen a decision at hamley where Robertson I think got the ball took 6 steps ran around in circle because of hamleys pressure and was given holding the ball for running too far bemusing to say the least

[Freaky Tah]

Umpires do there best every week during the regular season but in my opinion country leagues should have neutral umpires for finals e.g B&GL swap with APFL umps RFL & independant league swap ect only because there is alot on the line in finals and you wont see favortism from umpires for previous indiscretions by clubs/fans/players during the season or years past

[Freaky Tah]

I have played in many different leagues and I believe that Adelaide plains footballers are the most disrespectful footballers toward umpires I have ever seen. Whilst the umpires don’t help themselves, they are going to get things wrong. Balaklava and Two wells were disgusting. Swearing at an umpire is not on. Also there are young kids in
the crowd that hear fowl mouth footballers. I think something has to be done about the language on the field.

Im with u on this one westy

[Nocyrils]

I have played in many different leagues and I believe that Adelaide plains footballers are the most disrespectful footballers toward umpires I have ever seen. Whilst the umpires don’t help themselves, they are going to get things wrong. Balaklava and Two wells were disgusting. Swearing at an umpire is not on. Also there are young kids in
the crowd that hear fowl mouth footballers. I think something has to be done about the language on the field.

Im with u on this one westy[/quote
i think our umpires are the best out of all leagues. they do a great job to put up with blokes like me. umpires on saturday lost control of the game a bit. confusing each other with decisions, then confusing the players. other then that they are the best. i love em. they definitly make imports earn there kicks a lot more no matter how much sucking up i do i still cant get a free. but i still love them dearly

[crowzanddogz]

ventured out to Hamley on the weekend to watch the top of the table clash and it was well worth it, cracking game of country football the pressure was fierce from both sides and in the end it was the match ups that lost it for virginia IMO, M Young full back on greenwood bad move virginia missed his pressence in the middle and payed for it B Russel should have tagged Thach the kid was everywhere and needed to be stopped. Hamley got off to a flyer with virginia missing goals and not getting clean ball movement which cost them lucky for virginia greenwood went down with a hammy so that freed up young who then went in the middle and changed the whole game if virginia had had been a bit closer they could have won but once thier ruckman went down it was going to be very hard, was haseldine injured looked a bit ginger on a few occasions, seen he was put down back on big nik which was a good move by Red standouts for hamley Hanson and Thach virginia standouts were young and johnston, in closing very ordinary umpiring as well the guy with the hat needs to have a good hard look at the rule book

I'd b very interested 2 know who the bloke in the hat is and his background??... Although in saying that It wasn't the reason Hamley won... They were very good Saturday and if what we read is true are only gonna get better... Not sure any1 can beat em at this stage... Clear favs IMO

[Lame Choice]

Umpires do there best every week during the regular season but in my opinion country leagues should have neutral umpires for finals e.g B&GL swap with APFL umps RFL & independant league swap ect only because there is alot on the line in finals and you wont see favortism from umpires for previous indiscretions by clubs/fans/players during the season or years past

This comes up almost every year. Virginia FC put up this proposal last year. There are a few factors here:
1. The finals allocation to the umpires are a reward for performance and the better umpires get the gig. The GF is something that the umpires see as being the best two of the comp and is as important as is for the players. I reckon they should be presented a medal along with the winning team.
2. There would need to be another close by league that wants to do the same re: swap. Do you think B&GL would want APFL umpires for their finals?
3. 'Favourtism' isn't high on the list of attributes for good umpires

[BoundaryRider84]

Umpires do there best every week during the regular season but in my opinion country leagues should have neutral umpires for finals e.g B&GL swap with APFL umps RFL & independant league swap ect only because there is alot on the line in finals and you wont see favortism from umpires for previous indiscretions by clubs/fans/players during the season or years past

2. There would need to be another close by league that wants to do the same re: swap. Do you think B&GL would want APFL umpires for their finals?

Have watched a few games and seen the quality of your umpires firsthand, you can keep them. The BL&G probably have one of the best umpiring panels in country football, no way we want your rabble umpiring at finals times. Makes no sense at all!!!!!!!!!

[Lightning McQueen]

Umpires do there best every week during the regular season but in my opinion country leagues should have neutral umpires for finals e.g B&GL swap with APFL umps RFL & independant league swap ect only because there is alot on the line in finals and you wont see favortism from umpires for previous indiscretions by clubs/fans/players during the season or years past

This comes up almost every year. Virginia FC put up this proposal last year. There are a few factors here:
1. The finals allocation to the umpires are a reward for performance and the better umpires get the gig. The GF is something that the umpires see as being the best two of the comp and is as important as is for the players. I reckon they should be presented a medal along with the winning team.
2. There would need to be another close by league that wants to do the same re: swap. Do you think B&GL would want APFL umpires for their finals?
3. 'Favourtism' isn't high on the list of attributes for good umpires

I know a couple of the umpires and to think they'd favour a side is absurd. I know that Doug rewards the two "best" umpires with the A Grade Grand Final and then they work down the list for the subsequent Grades Grand Finals.
From what I've seen there are no A Grade umpires that are aligned or have played for any APFL club, most of them umpire in the city on Sunday's aswell & their credibility as an umpire would far outweigh their desire to favour any given side.
Doug is the best umpire I've had or seen and I know that he is a great motivator and mentor to his team.
It's all good to think your team gets ripped from time to time by the umpires, no one ever seems to be on the good end of the stick though in their own eyes.

[Lightning McQueen]

Have watched a few games and seen the quality of your umpires firsthand, you can keep them. The BL&G probably have one of the best umpiring panels in country football, no way we want your rabble umpiring at finals times. Makes no sense at all!!!!!!!!!

First hand? Thought you'd be out watching the Redlegs on a Saturday afternoon mate.

[magpieeagle]

Umpires do there best every week during the regular season but in my opinion country leagues should have neutral umpires for finals e.g B&GL swap with APFL umps RFL & independant league swap ect only because there is alot on the line in finals and you wont see favortism from umpires for previous indiscretions by clubs/fans/players during the season or years past

This comes up almost every year. Virginia FC put up this proposal last year. There are a few factors here:
1. The finals allocation to the umpires are a reward for performance and the better umpires get the gig. The GF is something that the umpires see as being the best two of the comp and is as important as is for the players. I reckon they should be presented a medal along with the winning team.
2. There would need to be another close by league that wants to do the same re: swap. Do you think B&GL would want APFL umpires for their finals?
3. 'Favourtism' isn't high on the list of attributes for good umpires

I know a couple of the umpires and to think they'd favour a side is absurd. I know that Doug rewards the two "best" umpires with the A Grade Grand Final and then they work down the list for the subsequent Grades Grand Finals.
From what I've seen there are no A Grade umpires that are aligned or have played for any APFL club, most of them umpire in the city on Sunday's aswell & their credibility as an umpire would far outweigh their desire to favour any given side.
Doug is the best umpire I've had or seen and I know that he is a great motivator and mentor to his team.
It's all good to think your team gets ripped from time to time by the umpires, no one ever seems to be on the good end of the stick though in their own eyes.

as most of you wouldnt be out of bed to see junior games.sat at two wells the APFL used two umpires from the SAAFL NORTHERN junior comp,give me APFL umpires any day

[Lame Choice]

Umpires do there best every week during the regular season but in my opinion country leagues should have neutral umpires for finals e.g B&GL swap with APFL umps RFL & independant league swap ect only because there is alot on the line in finals and you wont see favortism from umpires for previous indiscretions by clubs/fans/players during the season or years past

This comes up almost every year. Virginia FC put up this proposal last year. There are a few factors here:
1. The finals allocation to the umpires are a reward for performance and the better umpires get the gig. The GF is something that the umpires see as being the best two of the comp and is as important as is for the players. I reckon they should be presented a medal along with the winning team.
2. There would need to be another close by league that wants to do the same re: swap. Do you think B&GL would want APFL umpires for their finals?
3. 'Favourtism' isn't high on the list of attributes for good umpires

I know a couple of the umpires and to think they'd favour a side is absurd. I know that Doug rewards the two "best" umpires with the A Grade Grand Final and then they work down the list for the subsequent Grades Grand Finals.
From what I've seen there are no A Grade umpires that are aligned or have played for any APFL club, most of them umpire in the city on Sunday's aswell & their credibility as an umpire would far outweigh their desire to favour any given side.
Doug is the best umpire I've had or seen and I know that he is a great motivator and mentor to his team.
It's all good to think your team gets ripped from time to time by the umpires, no one ever seems to be on the good end of the stick though in their own eyes.

as most of you wouldnt be out of bed to see junior games.sat at two wells the APFL used two umpires from the SAAFL NORTHERN junior comp,give me APFL umpires any day

"Ex-Players don't seem to progress to umpiring now and rather we get young lads and try to develop them"

Better get used to them - they'll be here all year.

[roodog]

Must say I think the general standard of umpiring in the APFL this season has been fine. Bear in mind we have blokes on $150000+ umpiring in the AFL and they still sometimes get it wrong. We can't ask for better from our country and suburban umps! It certainly hasn't been atrocious by any measure.
On swapping umpires between leagues, the problem you have is they often bring different interpretations to a game, which frustrates the hell out of players. It has merit if everyone's on the same page though.
In general, no-one is going to want to get into umpiring as a junior or past player if they see that the umps cop that much crap that it's not worth it. Any abuse towards an umpire should be an instant yellow card. Cut crook if you like, but don't directly abuse them and eventually numbers will grow. With more numbers comes greater depth and then better standards...........problem solvered!