by X Runna » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:38 pm
by Cohiba » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:14 am
X Runna wrote:You would never make it in real estate Cohiba. As an example, see if you can work through this.......15 to 20 years ago areas like Golden Grove, Redwood Park, Tea Tree Gully, Modbury & etc were DINKS. Heard of that? It means Double Income No Kids, with 90 odd % of the population being around their late 20's. Now in that age, most couples like to have great sex (excuse yourself if that is one of your letdowns) and as a result of humungous copulation, there is a chance LOTS of children are going to be conceived.
Close suburbs to those which are often very well established and more apt to the middle age group and onward DO NOT have the same opportunity to provide youngsters to the local club, nor do they have ex champions stacking their D Grade side as with some other tools.
God it's hard sometimes........
by turk186 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:09 am
by jo172 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:03 am
Footy Chick wrote:S Demon would have a better idea of exact numbers but over the past 2-3 years, the majority of our 18's have gone onto seniors, except the ones that went to SANFL. I understand we're probably the exception as opposed to the rule though.
by zedman » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:28 am
scottroo wrote:Yank Man wrote:scottroo wrote:jesus, which 4 is thatyankman
Hahaha, nice, you should know you've had a crack at a couple.
news to me, I must not be in the know
by Footy Chick » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:32 am
jo172 wrote:Footy Chick wrote:S Demon would have a better idea of exact numbers but over the past 2-3 years, the majority of our 18's have gone onto seniors, except the ones that went to SANFL. I understand we're probably the exception as opposed to the rule though.
Us too.
I can't think of any Under 18 who has played for a different SAAFL/Country club etc. unless they have moved out of metropolitan Adelaide.
Gatt_Weasel wrote:if they (Walkerville) dont win the flag ill run around the block of my street naked :) you can grab a chair and enjoy the view
by jo172 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:05 am
Footy Chick wrote:jo172 wrote:Footy Chick wrote:S Demon would have a better idea of exact numbers but over the past 2-3 years, the majority of our 18's have gone onto seniors, except the ones that went to SANFL. I understand we're probably the exception as opposed to the rule though.
Us too.
I can't think of any Under 18 who has played for a different SAAFL/Country club etc. unless they have moved out of metropolitan Adelaide.
A few of our kids tend to swap between here and Gullies - mainly because of school mates.
by BurraBoys » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:17 am
by Haynzy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:18 am
Footy Chick wrote:jo172 wrote:Footy Chick wrote:S Demon would have a better idea of exact numbers but over the past 2-3 years, the majority of our 18's have gone onto seniors, except the ones that went to SANFL. I understand we're probably the exception as opposed to the rule though.
Us too.
I can't think of any Under 18 who has played for a different SAAFL/Country club etc. unless they have moved out of metropolitan Adelaide.
A few of our kids tend to swap between here and Gullies - mainly because of school mates.
by jo172 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:24 am
BurraBoys wrote:A few have floated the idea of capping junior numbers at clubs. I'm not a big fan of the idea. I can understand the principle and appreciate the merit.
I think what you will Find is that over time, with limited positions within their ranks, clubs with money will invest heavily into their junior programs, ensuing the highest quality coaches, facilities, environment etc. almost setting themselves up like development academies with a direct feeding line into SANFL and talented player pathways. Kids and parents will attracted by this and soon enough we have families scrambling over the chance to get their kids to an elite junior club, much like many do with top notch schools. I'm all for ensuring the best possible 'football education' and experience but it needs to be inclusive.
Honestly, I think it will head this way eventually anyway. The concept of highly structured junior ranks that is. But if we cap numbers, do we dishearten kinds by turning them away from a club if they are not good enough to make the grade as 12/13 year old?
For mine, clubs are 100% responsible for their own wellbeing and survival at all levels. I'm a jerk but I don't have a lot of sympathy of those doing it tough. I empathise with the challenges many face but Dig you heels in and find a way. Adapt. It takes good people to be involved but it's about building a strong culture and making it an attractive place to be. Ensure your plan for growth and success is sustainable. Get innovative and offer something the club down the road doesn't! I'm fortunate to be involved in a club that really has got it together but I still feel like there is plenty more we could do.
I've heard plenty in the business and entertainment world say overnight success often takes 5-10years. Apply that to how you build your club
by Cohiba » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:22 am
BurraBoys wrote:A few have floated the idea of capping junior numbers at clubs. I'm not a big fan of the idea. I can understand the principle and appreciate the merit.
I think what you will Find is that over time, with limited positions within their ranks, clubs with money will invest heavily into their junior programs, ensuing the highest quality coaches, facilities, environment etc. almost setting themselves up like development academies with a direct feeding line into SANFL and talented player pathways. Kids and parents will attracted by this and soon enough we have families scrambling over the chance to get their kids to an elite junior club, much like many do with top notch schools. I'm all for ensuring the best possible 'football education' and experience but it needs to be inclusive.
Honestly, I think it will head this way eventually anyway. The concept of highly structured junior ranks that is. But if we cap numbers, do we dishearten kinds by turning them away from a club if they are not good enough to make the grade as 12/13 year old?
For mine, clubs are 100% responsible for their own wellbeing and survival at all levels. I'm a jerk but I don't have a lot of sympathy of those doing it tough. I empathise with the challenges many face but Dig you heels in and find a way. Adapt. It takes good people to be involved but it's about building a strong culture and making it an attractive place to be. Ensure your plan for growth and success is sustainable. Get innovative and offer something the club down the road doesn't! I'm fortunate to be involved in a club that really has got it together but I still feel like there is plenty more we could do.
I've heard plenty in the business and entertainment world say overnight success often takes 5-10years. Apply that to how you build your club
by Jetters » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:32 pm
by Boosh » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:52 pm
Robb_Stark wrote:probably 3-4 things that stand out
1.seems lot more people are quitting the game due to age/work/family
2.most Junior clubs have had a drop in numbers overall (yes we all know about the super clubs they are not effected)
3.clubs are a stone throw away from each other around the north that i know of so we all after the same people
4.parents dont want there kids playing football as they think it is to rough
its a big issue the power house clubs dont help the situation one bit trying to take every single kid to there club and stuff the rest......i personally can see in the future north clubs will either fold or merge as the numbers drop of while we all love our club lot are just so near each other that it creates huge problems
by Boosh » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:06 pm
X Runna wrote:Robb_Stark wrote:probably 3-4 things that stand out
1.seems lot more people are quitting the game due to age/work/family
2.most Junior clubs have had a drop in numbers overall (yes we all know about the super clubs they are not effected)
3.clubs are a stone throw away from each other around the north that i know of so we all after the same people
4.parents dont want there kids playing football as they think it is to rough
its a big issue the power house clubs dont help the situation one bit trying to take every single kid to there club and stuff the rest......i personally can see in the future north clubs will either fold or merge as the numbers drop of while we all love our club lot are just so near each other that it creates huge problems
Your points are very valid. I know of several kids who have given it away over the years purely because they weren't able to get a regular game and Mum & Dad didn't like it so pulled them out. Maybe time for the junior associations to set a limit on the number of kids clubs can have in their respective age groups so they do head off to another club for a game.
by marbles » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:07 pm
by jo172 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:13 pm
marbles wrote:it is absolutely ridiculous that clubs can have more than 2 teams in one age group
i dont care how many rabbits were breeding 15 years ago in particular suburbs
the concept of having 4 or 5 under 14 teams at one club is a joke
by Mr Beefy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:19 pm
by Footy Chick » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:27 pm
Gatt_Weasel wrote:if they (Walkerville) dont win the flag ill run around the block of my street naked :) you can grab a chair and enjoy the view
by Dogwatcher » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:28 pm
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