by bulldogproud2 » Sat May 31, 2014 2:45 pm
by Roxy the Rat Girl » Sat May 31, 2014 2:54 pm
bulldogproud2 wrote:Jimmy has selectively only worried about funding until 2017, this avoiding the truth about the decrease in REAL spending.
Cheers
by mighty_tiger_79 » Sat May 31, 2014 3:20 pm
by dedja » Sat May 31, 2014 3:21 pm
by bulldogproud2 » Sat May 31, 2014 4:23 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I love how there is vision of Hockey protesting against a raise in uni fees when he was 22 and how the liberals are having a crack at Macklin and labor about the co-payment - saying labor are playing politics.
well I thought it was politics
but I love how hypocritical both sides are
by Jimmy_041 » Sat May 31, 2014 8:33 pm
However, the real disappointment kicks in in 2017 when the actual amount of funding being provided for health decreases by a whopping $50 billion over the next eight years. Jimmy has selectively only worried about funding until 2017, this avoiding the truth about the decrease in REAL spending.
by Roxy the Rat Girl » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:01 am
by Jimmy_041 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:25 am
by Roxy the Rat Girl » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:14 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:Too hard to argue against when the facts are before you so you resort to ridicule?
But that's fine Roxy, you go on relying on your "majority of commentators and analysts"
It's easier than doing some research and they've gotta be right
Labor were planning the $1b pa cuts as far back as January last year.
Is the ABC one of the "majority of commentators and analysts"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-28/new-minister-to-tour-public-hospitals/4487700?section=sa
by bulldogproud2 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:29 pm
by bulldogproud2 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:54 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:Gee, sorry for selectively using the actual budget which only goes to 2017. Silly me, reading the actual document. Wot wos I thunking?
Jimmy, perhaps you should look at the ACTUAL budget for the Department of Health to get the full figures. You will, of course, observe a fall of $428 million in funding for the 2014/15 year and over an $8 billion cut in funding over the forward estimates. Yes, we will get you educated one of these days *grins*
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/budge ... glance.htm
by bulldogproud2 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:05 pm
by shoe boy » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:06 am
by Jimmy_041 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:05 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:Gee, sorry for selectively using the actual budget which only goes to 2017. Silly me, reading the actual document. Wot wos I thunking?
Obviously (due to my sudden loss of education) I should just listen to the "majority of commentators and analysts" and not read the damn budget myself. Maybe a couple of you should read it for yourselves. (BTW, I actually posted the 2013 budget but none of you picked that up)
Maybe I'm wrong though. Should I be looking at Table 2.4 that shows overall payments to the States?
http://budget.gov.au/2014-15/content/bp3/html/bp3_03_part_2b.htmHowever, the real disappointment kicks in in 2017 when the actual amount of funding being provided for health decreases by a whopping $50 billion over the next eight years. Jimmy has selectively only worried about funding until 2017, this avoiding the truth about the decrease in REAL spending.
So, you're worried about 2017 onwards? When's the next election? "Before 14th January 2017"
When Labor get back in, they can give it all back. You're worried about a period in the next term of government. They can change the budget just like this Government have. That is the right of every Govt.
I'm not being selective - I'm just being real and not listening to the hysterical like Koutsantonis who probably wrote his script before the budget was even handed down. Cutting 600 beds when he's getting more money than last year.
Its all a huge con. These cuts to the SA Health expenditure budget were in last years MYBR:
Commencing in 2013–14 $116m
To commence in 2014–15 $100m
To commence in 2015–16 $106m
To commence in 2016–17 $ 57m
So, there were going to cut their expenditure by over $1b pa by 2017 anyway
by bulldogproud2 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:03 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Gee, sorry for selectively using the actual budget which only goes to 2017. Silly me, reading the actual document. Wot wos I thunking?
Obviously (due to my sudden loss of education) I should just listen to the "majority of commentators and analysts" and not read the damn budget myself. Maybe a couple of you should read it for yourselves. (BTW, I actually posted the 2013 budget but none of you picked that up)
Maybe I'm wrong though. Should I be looking at Table 2.4 that shows overall payments to the States?
http://budget.gov.au/2014-15/content/bp3/html/bp3_03_part_2b.htmHowever, the real disappointment kicks in in 2017 when the actual amount of funding being provided for health decreases by a whopping $50 billion over the next eight years. Jimmy has selectively only worried about funding until 2017, this avoiding the truth about the decrease in REAL spending.
So, you're worried about 2017 onwards? When's the next election? "Before 14th January 2017"
When Labor get back in, they can give it all back. You're worried about a period in the next term of government. They can change the budget just like this Government have. That is the right of every Govt.
I'm not being selective - I'm just being real and not listening to the hysterical like Koutsantonis who probably wrote his script before the budget was even handed down. Cutting 600 beds when he's getting more money than last year.
Its all a huge con. These cuts to the SA Health expenditure budget were in last years MYBR:
Commencing in 2013–14 $116m
To commence in 2014–15 $100m
To commence in 2015–16 $106m
To commence in 2016–17 $ 57m
So, there were going to cut their expenditure by over $1b pa by 2017 anyway
Just shows how much you actually read on here bp2
by bulldogproud2 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:48 pm
by Roxy the Rat Girl » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:51 pm
by woodublieve12 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:56 pm
by bulldogproud2 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:12 pm
Roxy the Rat Girl wrote:It appears clear to most that the budget will see a reduction in health funding as it will for funding in many of areas (although health is being hit hard). It is the impact of these cuts that I fear will limit access to health services for some people, most probably the most disadvantaged. I think this will haunt the Liberals all the way to the next election should it pass through the senate, especially as the reality of reduced services and increased costs in hospitals and GP clinics starts to bite.
by Roxy the Rat Girl » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:23 pm
woodublieve12 wrote:how likely would it be that the budget gets through the senate you reckon?
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