SANFL Club Finances

[bennymacca]

I wonderif trigg took into account SANFL clubs losing revenue due to the afl reserves in his 18 months worth of research.

Especially now these Victorian owned entities want more revenue out of Adelaide Oval. Because a $7 million uplift in revenue for them obviously isnt enough .

What's Trigg got to do with it? Not his comp and he didn't have a vote. He was looking after the interests of his own club, something 6 clubs failed (IMHO) to do.

Because this was triggs vision for a better sa football. This was how he sold this to the league.

Trigg researched and presented this set up to be beneficial to all involved.Not just this is the best thing For Adelaide FC. He also stated he would not endorse a crows reserve team without unamious support from sanfl clubs. He then manipulated pressured bribed and lied to gain 6 out of 8 SANFL presidents to support his Vision.


How any South Australian would deliberately and maliciously go out of their way to weaken the Oldest football league in Australia for their own selfish gain is beyond me.

He is SA footballs Gordon Gecko.

Trying to make trigg blameless in all this is like saying it wasn't hitlers fault for WW2. He was just doing what he thought best for Germany. Its the germans who voted him into powers fault IMHO !!

You'll note triggs counterpart at port Adelaide wanted nothing to do with this.

And now trigg wants extra revenue out of sa football for his Victorian owned club. Without taking into account/miscalculating the massive losses SANFL clubs would incur due to his vision for sa football.

Seems a stuff up to me wouldn't you say.

firstly, lol at hitler reference. i wonder where trigg's SS soldiers are?

if you think trigg was making stuff up (painting the best possible picture maybe, blatantly lying i doubt it), shouldnt the due diligence of the SANFL board members have prevented this? they had long enough to make up their minds, this was not a spur of the moment thing. it cant be all the AFL's fault when it was the SANFL that let them in.

[Gozu]

That's the thing with all this I don't like it but all the SANFL clubs know how much they were bleeding money (according to Rucci, living beyond their means he called it) the Crows came dangling a carrot and in their wisdom the SANFL clubs decided to take it.

[RB]

That's the thing with all this I don't like it but all the SANFL clubs know how much they were bleeding money

Mine wasn't. Made a profit in 2012, all the while spending $1m on a new foyer.

[UK Fan]

I wonderif trigg took into account SANFL clubs losing revenue due to the afl reserves in his 18 months worth of research.

Especially now these Victorian owned entities want more revenue out of Adelaide Oval. Because a $7 million uplift in revenue for them obviously isnt enough .

What's Trigg got to do with it? Not his comp and he didn't have a vote. He was looking after the interests of his own club, something 6 clubs failed (IMHO) to do.

Because this was triggs vision for a better sa football. This was how he sold this to the league.

Trigg researched and presented this set up to be beneficial to all involved.Not just this is the best thing For Adelaide FC. He also stated he would not endorse a crows reserve team without unamious support from sanfl clubs. He then manipulated pressured bribed and lied to gain 6 out of 8 SANFL presidents to support his Vision.


How any South Australian would deliberately and maliciously go out of their way to weaken the Oldest football league in Australia for their own selfish gain is beyond me.

He is SA footballs Gordon Gecko.

Trying to make trigg blameless in all this is like saying it wasn't hitlers fault for WW2. He was just doing what he thought best for Germany. Its the germans who voted him into powers fault IMHO !!

You'll note triggs counterpart at port Adelaide wanted nothing to do with this.

And now trigg wants extra revenue out of sa football for his Victorian owned club. Without taking into account/miscalculating the massive losses SANFL clubs would incur due to his vision for sa football.

Seems a stuff up to me wouldn't you say.

firstly, lol at hitler reference. i wonder where trigg's SS soldiers are?

Brebner drive west lakes.

With 5AA and Advertiser in charge of propaganda

[UK Fan]

That's the thing with all this I don't like it but all the SANFL clubs know how much they were bleeding money (according to Rucci, living beyond their means he called it) the Crows came dangling a carrot and in their wisdom the SANFL clubs decided to take it.

Only one club in sa living above their means for years sucking $12.5 mill out of SANFL .

And It wasn't a SANFL club.

Btw SANFL inc is debt free could easily help 8 clubs out of any future financially difficulties and it wouldn't cost $12 mill . And it wouldn't be a band aid solution just to keep creditors away for the time being.

Plus the sale of AAMI stadium in the next 2-5 years. SANFL financially is fine now we have got rid of our financial burden.

[Dutchy]

But I reckon $600k in the red like Glenelg is not a great place to be.

Im sure the GFC would love to only be in $600k in debt. According to the 2013 Annual Report it is $3.5m, and that would have been before we got the council to loan us another $500k.

With the disaster of the AFL teams coming into the league and low crowds due to on field performances, Glenelg are in a world of hurt.

But we got $50k from the Crows

[wild dog]

if you think trigg was making stuff up (painting the best possible picture maybe, blatantly lying i doubt it.

You doubt it? Come on benny, jump off that fence. Do you mean that Trigg did not lie, or your gut instinct tells you that he didn't. Take for example Trigg's public statements:
The 4000 extra spectators from the C***s which was then altered to 4000 spectators per game; a lie?
The threat to enter the Ammos; a lie?
The unanimous decision required by the SANFL clubs; a lie?


Is one a lie. Put together, is it a lie. Is conning people a lie, or is it just salesmanship.

[bennymacca]

Do you mean that Trigg did not lie, or your gut instinct tells you that he didn't

a lie is different to saying you think something might happen when you know for sure it plainly wont

The 4000 extra spectators from the C***s which was then altered to 4000 spectators per game; a lie?

i believe it was always 4000 total supporters, if you can show me a quote otherwise im happy to be corrected. now obviously that was wildly optimistic, but trigg doesnt make these figures out of thin air. obviously someone did some estimates and attempted to work it out, but i honestly believe they thought they would get 4k per game.

making wrong predictions does not mean you lied. it could mean you did. or you could just be wrong.

The threat to enter the Ammos; a lie?
The unanimous decision required by the SANFL clubs; a lie?

both leverage to get what he wanted. he was acting in the best interests of his club, which is what i want him to do.

dont forget it was up to the SANFL clubs to let the crows into the comp.

now im the first to admit that i dont think it has worked out that well. it definitely hasnt been a disaster, but you can pretty certainly say it hasnt been a positive for the league. and im sure it is below their expectations. it is in the crows interest for the sanfl to be going well too.

so i would conclude part salesmanship, part bad estimates. can you blame trigg for that? certainly. it seems like the crowd numbers of 4k (let alone an extra 4k) have been wildly inaccurate. but i dont think he would deliberately lie.

[RB]

but i dont think he would deliberately lie.

He's a man of honesty and unblemished personal integrity, that's for sure.

[bennymacca]

but i dont think he would deliberately lie.

He's a man of honesty and unblemished personal integrity, that's for sure.

well i agree with you on that. still think the crows should have gotten rid of him.

watched footy classified monday night and caro had the rumour that he was off to either brisbane or carlton to be ceo and he has the blessing of the afl to take either job

[JK]

but i dont think he would deliberately lie.

He's a man of honesty and unblemished personal integrity, that's for sure.

well i agree with you on that. still think the crows should have gotten rid of him

Why do you think they didn't?

[UK Fan]

Do you mean that Trigg did not lie, or your gut instinct tells you that he didn't

a lie is different to saying you think something might happen when you know for sure it plainly wont

The 4000 extra spectators from the C***s which was then altered to 4000 spectators per game; a lie?

i believe it was always 4000 total supporters, if you can show me a quote otherwise im happy to be corrected. now obviously that was wildly optimistic, but trigg doesnt make these figures out of thin air. obviously someone did some estimates and attempted to work it out, but i honestly believe they thought they would get 4k per game.

making wrong predictions does not mean you lied. it could mean you did. or you could just be wrong.

The threat to enter the Ammos; a lie?
The unanimous decision required by the SANFL clubs; a lie?

both leverage to get what he wanted. he was acting in the best interests of his club, which is what i want him to do.

dont forget it was up to the SANFL clubs to let the crows into the comp.

now im the first to admit that i dont think it has worked out that well. it definitely hasnt been a disaster, but you can pretty certainly say it hasnt been a positive for the league. and im sure it is below their expectations. it is in the crows interest for the sanfl to be going well too.

so i would conclude part salesmanship, part bad estimates. can you blame trigg for that? certainly. it seems like the crowd numbers of 4k (let alone an extra 4k) have been wildly inaccurate. but i dont think he would deliberately lie.

Myself and kurt Tippett disagree that trigg wouldn't lie.

He leveraged lied and manipulated everyone to disadvantage everyone in sa football so the crows could benefit.

Children in this state should be taught to protect this states treasures not sell them out for personal gain.

The man is a disgraceful human being

[bennymacca]

once again ridiculous hyperbole on this forum. pretty standard.

JK because he was stubborn and didnt want to admit he stuffed up

[areaman]

so i would conclude part salesmanship, part bad estimates. can you blame trigg for that? certainly. it seems like the crowd numbers of 4k (let alone an extra 4k) have been wildly inaccurate. but i dont think he would deliberately lie.

Interesting take on the crowd number estimate. Most people who opposed the move on this site tried in vain to get a certain D Burtenshaw to justify the figures. The ducking and diving would have made a seasoned politician proud. We all knew it was crap 12 months ago.

Only a very generous person would say they were genuine about the crowd numbers. They just said what they thought club directors wanted to hear.

And they swallowed it. Hook, line and sinker.

[bennymacca]

surely it is up to them to do their due diligence though before committing to such a huge change though correct?

would be interested in what the average crowds are now that the winter months have settled in. obviously nowhere near 4k. ill ask in the whinge thread

[UK Fan]

surely it is up to them to do their due diligence though before committing to such a huge change though correct?

would be interested in what the average crowds are now that the winter months have settled in. obviously nowhere near 4k. ill ask in the whinge thread

Not that easy when you've got the commissioners and sponsors threatening you not to do due diligence and follow the status quo.

Yet again if trigg had any care for the welfare of sa football he should never of presented this farce. He like all of us knew what would happen to this league if approved. Simple fact is he doesn't care.

The man is a Disgrace!!

[whufc]

Sorry benny I got it out of d burtenshaw on here that the 4k figure was a pure gut feel estimate and no research had been done

I do agree the SANFL clubs played there own part as well unfortunatly

[JK]

once again ridiculous hyperbole on this forum. pretty standard.

JK because he was stubborn and didnt want to admit he stuffed up

But once the truth came out, why then didn't the board release him? Maybe had something to do with him taking the bullet and saving some other hides?

[areaman]

surely it is up to them to do their due diligence though before committing to such a huge change though correct?
would be interested in what the average crowds are now that the winter months have settled in. obviously nowhere near 4k. ill ask in the whinge thread

Does the same logic apply to the financial gains to be made from the move to Adelaide Oval?

[bennymacca]

Sure does. For the afl clubs to claim they want more money when they have had record crowds staggers me. They should be rolling in it shouldn't they?