by mal » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:10 pm
by bennymacca » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:13 pm
by mal » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:20 pm
by bennymacca » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:29 pm
mal wrote:If Adelaide Reserves are the reserves B grade team of the AFL team , what is Port Reserves ?
My answer Port is the reserves B grade of the AFL team as well
In my eyes they are both B grade AFL teams in the SANFL
by RustyCage » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:44 pm
by mal » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:46 pm
by RB » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:48 pm
by amber_fluid » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:59 pm
RustyCage wrote:While the structure of the club and it's SANFL team has changed occasionally in recent years, it's still the same Port Adelaide Football Club that has put a team in the SANFL since the comp started.
by dedja » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:50 pm
by Jim05 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:55 pm
dedja wrote:Faarking wharfies ... fatherless, no teeth, welfare scum.
Thread back on track
by dedja » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:07 pm
by Aerie » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:55 pm
by bennymacca » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:16 am
by Aerie » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:36 am
bennymacca wrote:very good post.
i guess that is just a sign of the increasing professionalism of the AFL.
another factor is that big coin can quite often be in the country these days too. where the time pressures are much less and you could get paid more than playing league.
by Rising Power » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:10 pm
mal wrote:Not much has changed on this thread
MOST posters who defend Port RESERVES are MOSTLY Port Adelaide barrackers of that team that existed 1870-2013
I have no problem with that, they need a team to barrack for
But for SOME to MOST other barrackers of the other 8 genuine SANFL clubs, they MOSTLY scrutinize Port RESERVES
At least Adelaide Reserves have a clear and concise identity , that being a reserves side of the AFL team
Port people need to adapt that same concept
I have nothing against the 1870-2013 Port Adelaide
They were for the most part a magnificent proud club , a club I could envy but also respect
In my opinion the Port Reserves side should not be allowed to wear the 1914 guernsey of another club
Anyone else can think what they like
by SimonH » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:55 pm
Rookie listed players in 2014 are on $53,825 (warning: long PDF; it's on page 68). There are two players contracted to play entirely in the SANFL who would be on more than that: Henry Slattery and Ian Callinan. Surprise, surprise: their wages are both paid out of the kitty of an AFL club. (The rules don't appear to prevent the AFL reserves club's 'leadership player' getting paid $1 million a year if the club feels like paying it.) Unless Glenelg pays its assistant coaches unusually well (i.e. Mitch Thorp), presumably there are no others who get paid more than the AFL rookie wage for playing SANFL.Aerie wrote:A bit of an insight given during James Gowans speech at the Hall of Fame night about how he came to play SANFL. They did have a rookie contract at St Kilda for 2000, but only being paid $12k, they were better off coming to SA and playing SANFL, so they did. Every rookie listed Port and Crows player would be on more than the highest paid SANFL players these days. That is with an extra two AFL teams as well - i.e. it is easier to get on an AFL list now.
Not really a whinge or argument whether it is better now or then, but an example of why the SANFL is struggling to maintain its stance with AFL going from strength to strength and leaving the rest behind.
I'm sure both Gowans and many other very good SANFL players of the early to mid 2000's would be on AFL lists now if their careers began 15 years later.
by Booney » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:02 pm
mal wrote:
Port people need to adapt that same concept
Anyone else can think what they like
by mal » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:05 pm
Booney wrote:mal wrote:
Port people need to adapt that same concept
Anyone else can think what they like
One or the other? You pick...
by Maddawg » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:09 pm
SimonH wrote:Rookie listed players in 2014 are on $53,825 (warning: long PDF; it's on page 68). There are two players contracted to play entirely in the SANFL who would be on more than that: Henry Slattery and Ian Callinan. Surprise, surprise: their wages are both paid out of the kitty of an AFL club. (The rules don't appear to prevent the AFL reserves club's 'leadership player' getting paid $1 million a year if the club feels like paying it.) Unless Glenelg pays its assistant coaches unusually well (i.e. Mitch Thorp), presumably there are no others who get paid more than the AFL rookie wage for playing SANFL.Aerie wrote:A bit of an insight given during James Gowans speech at the Hall of Fame night about how he came to play SANFL. They did have a rookie contract at St Kilda for 2000, but only being paid $12k, they were better off coming to SA and playing SANFL, so they did. Every rookie listed Port and Crows player would be on more than the highest paid SANFL players these days. That is with an extra two AFL teams as well - i.e. it is easier to get on an AFL list now.
Not really a whinge or argument whether it is better now or then, but an example of why the SANFL is struggling to maintain its stance with AFL going from strength to strength and leaving the rest behind.
I'm sure both Gowans and many other very good SANFL players of the early to mid 2000's would be on AFL lists now if their careers began 15 years later.
He who has the gold makes the rules, and over the last 30 years, the VFL/AFL has gone from having maybe 60% of the footy-related gold in Australia, to 95% plus. I think most fans are acclimatised to the idea that we'll never see new Super Carey/ Garry McIntoshes (i.e. elite players who play their whole career in the SANFL) again. But it's sad to think that there's a good chance that structural changes to footy mean we'll increasingly rarely see new Gowans brothers (top-level state players who start playing SANFL relatively early in their career and stay for 200+ games) again either.
by Wedgie » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:12 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
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