by On The Chest » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:59 am
by batmanbegins » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:10 am
by The Gimp » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:58 am
cracka wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:On The Pine wrote:Sad day for country footy when rules implemented in good faith by an amateur organisation are able to be challenged by those who can afford to go to court. Sets an interesting precedent for the future.
I see it as a wake-up call to all leagues. Time to put some effort into actually thinking about the rules you are implementing, not just slapping rubbish together.
This is a classic example of poorly thought out rule making.
Just remember, these by-laws were written long before the current HFL board (who are copping all the sh*t for them being poorly written) were ever there. Would be nice if all the people blaming the current board for the by-laws could have told them 5 years ago this would have happened, hindsight is a wonderful thing eh.
They have also instigated a review of them with the view of rewriting them, which seems to have been forgotten.
by cracka » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:18 am
The Gimp wrote:cracka wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:On The Pine wrote:Sad day for country footy when rules implemented in good faith by an amateur organisation are able to be challenged by those who can afford to go to court. Sets an interesting precedent for the future.
I see it as a wake-up call to all leagues. Time to put some effort into actually thinking about the rules you are implementing, not just slapping rubbish together.
This is a classic example of poorly thought out rule making.
Just remember, these by-laws were written long before the current HFL board (who are copping all the sh*t for them being poorly written) were ever there. Would be nice if all the people blaming the current board for the by-laws could have told them 5 years ago this would have happened, hindsight is a wonderful thing eh.
They have also instigated a review of them with the view of rewriting them, which seems to have been forgotten.
Actually, I did!! When Birdwood got relegated I raised the "promotion on A's, relegation on club" issue with the current board for about 2-3 years but they didn't care.
by cracka » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:15 am
Look Good In Leather wrote:overthehill wrote:I would like to see the points table under the new "Echunga interpretation". Was it really only 2 points between Bridgewater and Torrens Valley? If so i believe this presents another major issue for the HFL. I know there was a lot of discussion on Jnr Mail medal night regarding the round 3 U15s clash between the 2 previously mentioned sides. the 3 names read out for votes were for all TV players and all were well over the under 15 age limit. I believe one of the lads who kicked 5 goals was 18 years old or very close to. The league knew about it as they were all playing on permits to allow TV to form a under 15s side "in the spirit of the game". I'm not sure Bridgewater will be looking at their potential relegation as "in the spirit of the game" if this is the case.
I calculate 5 points
Club Points (Finals Points)
Blackwood 316 (31)
Mount Barker 285 (3)
Uraidla Districts 268 (20)
Hahndorf 215 (16)
Lobethal 212 (10)
Ironbank 211 (3)
Onkaparinga Valley 209 (10)
Echunga 182 (40)
Torrens Valley 159 (5)
Bridgewater-Callington 154 (0)
by Dutchy » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:29 am
running defender wrote:always there you should have been in court today to see the HFLdirectors heads and jaws drop to the ground when the judge said ALL COSTS ARE TO TO BE PAID BY HFL, at the AGM THE PRESIDENT SAID I STRONLY SUGGEST WE FIGHT THIS CASE as it will cost about 15k worse case, the president failed to inform the club delegates that if EFC WON they would be up for 50K as is the case today. Sorry you sad sacks, that believe the hfl have done the right thing ,not the case once again you have been led up the garden path with this result the HFL directors have cost the clubs a lot of money.
LETS BRING ON 2015 ALL PLAYERS STAYING PLUS PICKING UP 3 HIGH QUALITY PLAYERS.
by Elmer J Thudpucker » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:32 am
cracka wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:overthehill wrote:I would like to see the points table under the new "Echunga interpretation". Was it really only 2 points between Bridgewater and Torrens Valley? If so i believe this presents another major issue for the HFL. I know there was a lot of discussion on Jnr Mail medal night regarding the round 3 U15s clash between the 2 previously mentioned sides. the 3 names read out for votes were for all TV players and all were well over the under 15 age limit. I believe one of the lads who kicked 5 goals was 18 years old or very close to. The league knew about it as they were all playing on permits to allow TV to form a under 15s side "in the spirit of the game". I'm not sure Bridgewater will be looking at their potential relegation as "in the spirit of the game" if this is the case.
I calculate 5 points
Club Points (Finals Points)
Blackwood 316 (31)
Mount Barker 285 (3)
Uraidla Districts 268 (20)
Hahndorf 215 (16)
Lobethal 212 (10)
Ironbank 211 (3)
Onkaparinga Valley 209 (10)
Echunga 182 (40)
Torrens Valley 159 (5)
Bridgewater-Callington 154 (0)
Thought you said it was only 2 points between TV & Bridgy.
by Dutchy » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:03 am
by running defender » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:25 pm
by cracka » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:58 pm
running defender wrote:I'm sorry boys but the current HFL directors held a workshop 2010 about the by_ law and forgot to implement the wording of the by_law properly so they have got a little bit to do with it in a 60k bill. And cracka 4 weeks from the season starting we were required to present all names and dates of birth to HFL house who else had to do that, no other club. Lovely piece into days paper this is the best publicity for a rags to riches story. The Hfl say they are disappointed with the ruling, I remind them 3 months ago we started the process of trying to work this out, letters to Hfl, Cfl a special general meeting but to no avail, the president says who would have thought it would end up the supreme court, well i sugest Your inept decision making has cost Your reputation And the boards a whole lot more than money. A 11 team has now been mooted well hello $$
by cracka » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:20 pm
cracka wrote:running defender wrote:I'm sorry boys but the current HFL directors held a workshop 2010 about the by_ law and forgot to implement the wording of the by_law properly so they have got a little bit to do with it in a 60k bill. And cracka 4 weeks from the season starting we were required to present all names and dates of birth to HFL house who else had to do that, no other club. Lovely piece into days paper this is the best publicity for a rags to riches story. The Hfl say they are disappointed with the ruling, I remind them 3 months ago we started the process of trying to work this out, letters to Hfl, Cfl a special general meeting but to no avail, the president says who would have thought it would end up the supreme court, well i sugest Your inept decision making has cost Your reputation And the boards a whole lot more than money. A 11 team has now been mooted well hello $$
It was at the December AGM that this happened.
by running defender » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:00 pm
by cracka » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:58 pm
running defender wrote:Yes were accepted but the board sent a letter to us saying sorry we can't accept your promotion because we don't think you have enough junior players and that was after new year at another special meeting when the pres said you'll be all right then stood up for 20min speaking against us telling all the clubs why we Shouldn't go to central and mt lofty should stay Another total lack of leadership
by has been » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:11 pm
by Legs Man » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:42 pm
has been wrote:Running defender you are so totally off the mark its a joke. Your arrogance is typical wanna be club fluked a flag and now has no idea how to be humble. Why in your little tirade above did you not mention the very things that make your club great like your very personable goal umpire who abuses and threatens to kill kids and then in an under 15 game did the same thing. Your coach is another matter....................... Why has your president slid into the back ground and your VP wankington or whatever his name is speaks up. Is that because the pres like many of your club members dont agree with what your club has done and want nothing to do with it. Interesting. Hopefully you make it to the south east for xmas and santa gives you a suitcase full of humbleness to maybe shrink that massive ego you seem to have. Remember one thing sambo - the kalma bus will pull up outside echunga one day and it will be sooner rather rather than later.
by rock » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:55 pm
Legs Man wrote:has been wrote:Running defender you are so totally off the mark its a joke. Your arrogance is typical wanna be club fluked a flag and now has no idea how to be humble. Why in your little tirade above did you not mention the very things that make your club great like your very personable goal umpire who abuses and threatens to kill kids and then in an under 15 game did the same thing. Your coach is another matter....................... Why has your president slid into the back ground and your VP wankington or whatever his name is speaks up. Is that because the pres like many of your club members dont agree with what your club has done and want nothing to do with it. Interesting. Hopefully you make it to the south east for xmas and santa gives you a suitcase full of humbleness to maybe shrink that massive ego you seem to have. Remember one thing sambo - the kalma bus will pull up outside echunga one day and it will be sooner rather rather than later.
Mellington is the VP's name - but you obviously weren't able to derive this from the article posted by Dutchy?
Fully understand the humility call - but with comments like yours hasbeen ( both now and previously ) I also understand the bitterness towards you.
It is unfortunate when people show an inability to argue logically and sensibly - requiring personal attacks to bolster their appearance.
I actually would of thought that coming from such a strong club as Mt Barker with all your capacity to draw players at all levels from such a large population base you would show some humility too.
My recommendation would be to follow Echunga's lead and maybe win a GF - which you should be doing year in year out.
You could also follow Echunga's lead with getting your disgracefully substandard facilities and oval up to scratch.
by R. White » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:09 pm
by rock » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:20 pm
R. White wrote:Rock and hasbeen you are both being prett foolish. There are no mercenaries at Echunga, they recruit quality players and they stick around because of the culture. Similar to uradlia I would think. All of the players there have a tie or contact to the club in some way and I don't think they will be going anywhere so you may want to shut your pie holes because I seem to remember similar predictions from you last year and I am fairly sure you were wrong!
by Legs Man » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:23 pm
rock wrote:Legs Man wrote:has been wrote:Running defender you are so totally off the mark its a joke. Your arrogance is typical wanna be club fluked a flag and now has no idea how to be humble. Why in your little tirade above did you not mention the very things that make your club great like your very personable goal umpire who abuses and threatens to kill kids and then in an under 15 game did the same thing. Your coach is another matter....................... Why has your president slid into the back ground and your VP wankington or whatever his name is speaks up. Is that because the pres like many of your club members dont agree with what your club has done and want nothing to do with it. Interesting. Hopefully you make it to the south east for xmas and santa gives you a suitcase full of humbleness to maybe shrink that massive ego you seem to have. Remember one thing sambo - the kalma bus will pull up outside echunga one day and it will be sooner rather rather than later.
Mellington is the VP's name - but you obviously weren't able to derive this from the article posted by Dutchy?
Fully understand the humility call - but with comments like yours hasbeen ( both now and previously ) I also understand the bitterness towards you.
It is unfortunate when people show an inability to argue logically and sensibly - requiring personal attacks to bolster their appearance.
I actually would of thought that coming from such a strong club as Mt Barker with all your capacity to draw players at all levels from such a large population base you would show some humility too.
My recommendation would be to follow Echunga's lead and maybe win a GF - which you should be doing year in year out.
You could also follow Echunga's lead with getting your disgracefully substandard facilities and oval up to scratch.
Maybe Echunga should concentrate on getting quality people to their club instead of prison bound crooks. Your over inflated egos will be crushed rather quickly. You are now the most hated club in the HFL... well done. Your Steven Bradbury premiership will be a distant memory before you know it. And at what cost! One bloke in Yatala, a heap of mercenaries and a bad culture to suit. Congratulations Echunga. TOOLS OF THE DECADE.
by Legs Man » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:30 pm
rock wrote:R. White wrote:Rock and hasbeen you are both being prett foolish. There are no mercenaries at Echunga, they recruit quality players and they stick around because of the culture. Similar to uradlia I would think. All of the players there have a tie or contact to the club in some way and I don't think they will be going anywhere so you may want to shut your pie holes because I seem to remember similar predictions from you last year and I am fairly sure you were wrong!
Always defending the players but that crook never gets mentioned does he. How many of those players (recruits) are or will be 150 game club men. We will see I guess. I know of at least 3 of these so called quality players have been talking to other clubs in different leagues. The culture must be great when your B grade doesn't win a game, your juniors put together a handful of wins and you purchase an A grade flag via tax payers money. Yep well done, your looking great.
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