by cennals05 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:44 pm
by bennymacca » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:45 pm
nuggety goodness wrote:HH3 wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:So a choice of being gay is the same as being a slave or not recognised as even human....... ok..... that fits in this thread.
Its not a choice champion. Are your sexual preferences choices? Or do you just like what you like?
So if someone is sexually attracted to children or animals is it a choice or were they born that way?
by nuggety goodness » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:45 pm
Q. wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:HH3 wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:So a choice of being gay is the same as being a slave or not recognised as even human....... ok..... that fits in this thread.
Its not a choice champion. Are your sexual preferences choices? Or do you just like what you like?
So if someone is sexually attracted to children or animals is it a choice or were they born that way?
Those questions can be debated separately on their own merits as they have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
by nuggety goodness » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:48 pm
bennymacca wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:HH3 wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:So a choice of being gay is the same as being a slave or not recognised as even human....... ok..... that fits in this thread.
Its not a choice champion. Are your sexual preferences choices? Or do you just like what you like?
So if someone is sexually attracted to children or animals is it a choice or were they born that way?
Are you saying you are attracted to animals?
by cennals05 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:52 pm
by bennymacca » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:52 pm
by Q. » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:53 pm
nuggety goodness wrote:Q. wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:HH3 wrote:[quote="nuggety goodness"]So a choice of being gay is the same as being a slave or not recognised as even human....... ok..... that fits in this thread.
Its not a choice champion. Are your sexual preferences choices? Or do you just like what you like?
So if someone is sexually attracted to children or animals is it a choice or were they born that way?
Those questions can be debated separately on their own merits as they have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
by HH3 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:54 pm
nuggety goodness wrote:No, but if i was you would have to accept it because i was born that way and in fact i want my love for Rover to be recognised so me and my fellow animals lovers can enjoy our love just like you. Who are you to tell me I'm sick and who i can and cant love!
by Booney » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:56 pm
by cennals05 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:56 pm
Booney wrote:Best we get laws changed to ensure churches pay taxes then. That would make for some equality.
by Booney » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:02 pm
by nuggety goodness » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:03 pm
HH3 wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:No, but if i was you would have to accept it because i was born that way and in fact i want my love for Rover to be recognised so me and my fellow animals lovers can enjoy our love just like you. Who are you to tell me I'm sick and who i can and cant love!
Dogs aren't people champion. Marriage is between two consenting adults.
Rover can't consent, and probably doesn't wanna root you, so there's your answer.
Its not hard when you think about it, WITHOUT predetermined outcomes, such as the ones you're aiming for.
*Wrote this at the same time as Benny
by HH3 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:08 pm
by whufc » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:13 pm
by Q. » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:31 pm
nuggety goodness wrote:HH3 wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:No, but if i was you would have to accept it because i was born that way and in fact i want my love for Rover to be recognised so me and my fellow animals lovers can enjoy our love just like you. Who are you to tell me I'm sick and who i can and cant love!
Dogs aren't people champion. Marriage is between two consenting adults.
Rover can't consent, and probably doesn't wanna root you, so there's your answer.
Its not hard when you think about it, WITHOUT predetermined outcomes, such as the ones you're aiming for.
*Wrote this at the same time as Benny
As Q said these issues are totally separate...
The fact that we accept that LGBT are born that way lends to the idea that we must accept that Paedophiles and those involved in beastiality and other depravity are also born that way. Forget marriage for now.
now you said that these people are 'sick' and 'need psychiatric help' but why? Why is it so wrong that some people dont share the same sexual preference as you or others?
What are the predetermined outcomes im looking for?
I hate the idea that im homophobic and im vilifying people because i am opposed to their way of life and changing laws to accommodate that.
by nuggety goodness » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:40 pm
Q. wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:HH3 wrote:nuggety goodness wrote:No, but if i was you would have to accept it because i was born that way and in fact i want my love for Rover to be recognised so me and my fellow animals lovers can enjoy our love just like you. Who are you to tell me I'm sick and who i can and cant love!
Dogs aren't people champion. Marriage is between two consenting adults.
Rover can't consent, and probably doesn't wanna root you, so there's your answer.
Its not hard when you think about it, WITHOUT predetermined outcomes, such as the ones you're aiming for.
*Wrote this at the same time as Benny
As Q said these issues are totally separate...
The fact that we accept that LGBT are born that way lends to the idea that we must accept that Paedophiles and those involved in beastiality and other depravity are also born that way. Forget marriage for now.
now you said that these people are 'sick' and 'need psychiatric help' but why? Why is it so wrong that some people dont share the same sexual preference as you or others?
What are the predetermined outcomes im looking for?
I hate the idea that im homophobic and im vilifying people because i am opposed to their way of life and changing laws to accommodate that.
It doesn't lend any weight to those arguments due to the differentiating factor of consent/non-consent. The 'depravity' of your other examples arises from the non-consensual nature.
by Booney » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:43 pm
by nuggety goodness » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:01 pm
Booney wrote:Bullshit. What is wrong is one person telling another person that they can or can't love or marry another person. What is right is every human being allowed to love and marry, if they wish, any other person on earth.
Don't you lot rabbit on about "Thou shall not judge" or something like that? Which, with a fistful of irony, comes from the most judgmental people in the world.
by Booney » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:12 pm
by HH3 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:14 pm
nuggety goodness wrote:Booney wrote:Bullshit. What is wrong is one person telling another person that they can or can't love or marry another person. What is right is every human being allowed to love and marry, if they wish, any other person on earth.
Don't you lot rabbit on about "Thou shall not judge" or something like that? Which, with a fistful of irony, comes from the most judgmental people in the world.
but just like i get told not to push my view on people, i think its only fair that other peoples choice of lifestyle isnt forced upon me as it is currently and laws changed to suit it.
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