Booney wrote:Site sponsor, Sportsbet, don't have Essendon in their current betting markets. Not even for their Round 1 clash.
Makes sense until there is clarity as to what their list will look like
by bennymacca » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:06 am
Booney wrote:Site sponsor, Sportsbet, don't have Essendon in their current betting markets. Not even for their Round 1 clash.
by Grahaml » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:07 am
by bennymacca » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:07 am
Feenix wrote:Booney wrote:I don't believe this can be appealed. Is that right, Jim?
I've read that they can appeal through the Swiss Federal Tribunal as CAS is located in Switzerland
by bennymacca » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:11 am
Grahaml wrote:
And I think match payments went a long time ago. Hard to properly manage a salary cap with unknown payments throughout the year.
by whufc » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:35 am
by whufc » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:36 am
Grahaml wrote:To me this is the only decision that could have been arrived at. Sport simply cannot allow ignorance to be a valid defense. Athletes have known since Sam Riley got banned for taking that headache tablet back in the mid 90s to know the legality of what goes into their bodies and being injected with an assortment of random things was more than enough to require them to say no. The only shame is that some players have retired and effectively got away with cheating. I've got no sympathy for the club, the coaches or the players. Dr Reid seems the only one who questioned it and even that wasn't strong enough. The supporters and members are the ones who deserve sympathy. Like Carlton a decade ago, they now face a long road to being able to be proud of their club again.
As for lawsuits, the players will struggle to sue Essendon unless they can show the club deceived them somehow. Port/St Kilda/Bulldogs will also have trouble unless Essendon withheld relevant information.
And I think match payments went a long time ago. Hard to properly manage a salary cap with unknown payments throughout the year.
by Booney » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:37 am
Grahaml wrote:To me this is the only decision that could have been arrived at. Sport simply cannot allow ignorance to be a valid defense. Athletes have known since Sam Riley got banned for taking that headache tablet back in the mid 90s to know the legality of what goes into their bodies and being injected with an assortment of random things was more than enough to require them to say no. The only shame is that some players have retired and effectively got away with cheating. I've got no sympathy for the club, the coaches or the players. Dr Reid seems the only one who questioned it and even that wasn't strong enough. The supporters and members are the ones who deserve sympathy. Like Carlton a decade ago, they now face a long road to being able to be proud of their club again.
As for lawsuits, the players will struggle to sue Essendon unless they can show the club deceived them somehow. Port/St Kilda/Bulldogs will also have trouble unless Essendon withheld relevant information.
And I think match payments went a long time ago. Hard to properly manage a salary cap with unknown payments throughout the year.
by Magellan » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:42 am
Grahaml wrote:As for lawsuits, the players will struggle to sue Essendon unless they can show the club deceived them somehow.
by whufc » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:42 am
Grahaml wrote:To me this is the only decision that could have been arrived at. Sport simply cannot allow ignorance to be a valid defense. Athletes have known since Sam Riley got banned for taking that headache tablet back in the mid 90s to know the legality of what goes into their bodies and being injected with an assortment of random things was more than enough to require them to say no. The only shame is that some players have retired and effectively got away with cheating. I've got no sympathy for the club, the coaches or the players. Dr Reid seems the only one who questioned it and even that wasn't strong enough. The supporters and members are the ones who deserve sympathy. Like Carlton a decade ago, they now face a long road to being able to be proud of their club again.
As for lawsuits, the players will struggle to sue Essendon unless they can show the club deceived them somehow. Port/St Kilda/Bulldogs will also have trouble unless Essendon withheld relevant information.
And I think match payments went a long time ago. Hard to properly manage a salary cap with unknown payments throughout the year.
by whufc » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:42 am
Magellan wrote:Grahaml wrote:As for lawsuits, the players will struggle to sue Essendon unless they can show the club deceived them somehow.
I think Essendon will also rely on the fact that Zaharakis opted out of the program and faces no sanction, arguing that the players voluntarily accepted the risk of participating in the program.
by am Bays » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:46 am
by Magellan » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:49 am
whufc wrote:Elliott Kavanagh who is now at Centrals also opted out of the program.
by DOC » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:03 pm
by Spargo » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:18 pm
whufc wrote:Magellan wrote:Grahaml wrote:As for lawsuits, the players will struggle to sue Essendon unless they can show the club deceived them somehow.
I think Essendon will also rely on the fact that Zaharakis opted out of the program and faces no sanction, arguing that the players voluntarily accepted the risk of participating in the program.
Elliott Kavanagh who is now at Centrals also opted out of the program.
by Robran » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:20 pm
by Sharksta » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:22 pm
by bennymacca » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:23 pm
Spargo wrote:whufc wrote:Magellan wrote:Grahaml wrote:As for lawsuits, the players will struggle to sue Essendon unless they can show the club deceived them somehow.
I think Essendon will also rely on the fact that Zaharakis opted out of the program and faces no sanction, arguing that the players voluntarily accepted the risk of participating in the program.
Elliott Kavanagh who is now at Centrals also opted out of the program.
So did Dustin Fletcher.
by Jim05 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:26 pm
Sharksta wrote:Interesting to see Paul Marsh from AFLPA criticising the AFL for endorsing the WADA code. Everyone knew the rules. Some chose to try & get an advantage by skirting the rules & got caught out. I really don't think to say well we don't like the rules anyway & will talk to the AFL about their WADA involvement is good enough from a body supposed to look after the players interests
by woodublieve12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:43 pm
by woodublieve12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:44 pm
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