by frogcake » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:09 am
by leggies » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:21 am
Zartan wrote:tipper wrote:i think removing them will actually condense what is left of the league, not dilute it. its already been shown that the reserves sides supporters are staying away in droves, so by getting rid of them, it will bring together what is left of the league
The SANFL is dying a slow painful death.. Fact remains regardless of reserves sides or not, the interest in the comp from the next generation just isn't there period.
Kids/teenagers if they're interested in footy are either involved at club level or they're home watching the AFL if not at an AFL game.
Harsh reality, but grass roots footy (SFL, SAAFL, HFL) probably has a greater interest and following amongst the younger generation.
by whufc » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:53 am
by johntheclaret » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:59 am
whufc wrote:It was very noticeably at how the entire video was aimed at the golden oldies!!
by Panther Pack » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:03 am
frogcake wrote:The AFL teams are the only reason our competition and clubs still exist. They bring in what, $20 mill a year through the Adelaide Oval deal? most SANFL games are lucky to get more than 100 people turn up?
We need to go back to grass roots to survive, stop paying interstate players big money, stop trying to be the second best league in Australia, just live within our means.
by therisingblues » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:41 am
by frogcake » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:49 pm
therisingblues wrote:Pre reserves we were in a position to FIGHT this bullshit!
Since then crowds have fallen dramatically.
I'm only on my mobile, so it's hard to research but a quick search of this site produced the following figures posted by Spelly, there figures show crowds up to the second week of May:
1997: 3957 (24 matches, to Rd 7)
1998: 4132 (27, Rd 7)
1999: 3711 (27, Rd 7)
2000: 3296 (39, Rd 10)
2001: 4005 (27, Rd 7)
2002: 3761 (27, Rd 7)
2003: 3306 (27, Rd 7)
2004: 3589 (23, Rd 6)
2005: 3241 (27, Rd 7)
2006: 3256 (27, Rd 7)
2007: 3262 (23, Rd 6)
2008: 3672 (28, Rd 7)
2009: 3173 (28, Rd 7)
2010: 3580 (28, Rd 7)
2011: 3639 (23, Rd 6)
2012: 3286 (30, Rd
2013: 3407 (24, Rd 6)
2014: 3357 (25, Rd 6)
2015: 2637 (27, Rd 6)
Well **** me, look at the decline post reserves! I know the crowds have since fallen more.
We predicted this! We knew it would happen! The ONLY dissenters from this opinion on this forum were handfuls of Crows/Power fans pushing their club's agenda.
Now it's happened I'm now reading hogwash that ee have to lower our standards?
The first thing we must do is kick the bloody reserve out! No good going into battle with a bad appendix. We'll still have to fight for our survival, but we can't do it carrying such a horrible handicap.
I'd much rather the ravens folded than Glenelg.
by Jim05 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:00 pm
frogcake wrote:therisingblues wrote:Pre reserves we were in a position to FIGHT this bullshit!
Since then crowds have fallen dramatically.
I'm only on my mobile, so it's hard to research but a quick search of this site produced the following figures posted by Spelly, there figures show crowds up to the second week of May:
1997: 3957 (24 matches, to Rd 7)
1998: 4132 (27, Rd 7)
1999: 3711 (27, Rd 7)
2000: 3296 (39, Rd 10)
2001: 4005 (27, Rd 7)
2002: 3761 (27, Rd 7)
2003: 3306 (27, Rd 7)
2004: 3589 (23, Rd 6)
2005: 3241 (27, Rd 7)
2006: 3256 (27, Rd 7)
2007: 3262 (23, Rd 6)
2008: 3672 (28, Rd 7)
2009: 3173 (28, Rd 7)
2010: 3580 (28, Rd 7)
2011: 3639 (23, Rd 6)
2012: 3286 (30, Rd
2013: 3407 (24, Rd 6)
2014: 3357 (25, Rd 6)
2015: 2637 (27, Rd 6)
Well **** me, look at the decline post reserves! I know the crowds have since fallen more.
We predicted this! We knew it would happen! The ONLY dissenters from this opinion on this forum were handfuls of Crows/Power fans pushing their club's agenda.
Now it's happened I'm now reading hogwash that ee have to lower our standards?
The first thing we must do is kick the bloody reserve out! No good going into battle with a bad appendix. We'll still have to fight for our survival, but we can't do it carrying such a horrible handicap.
I'd much rather the ravens folded than Glenelg.
What does the introduction of the Crows reserves have to do with Glenelgs declining crowds?
by JK » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:31 pm
frogcake wrote:The AFL teams are the only reason our competition and clubs still exist. They bring in what, $20 mill a year through the Adelaide Oval deal? most SANFL games are lucky to get more than 100 people turn up
by therisingblues » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:40 pm
by Reddeer » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:48 pm
by Rik E Boy » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:49 pm
by amber_fluid » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:59 pm
Rik E Boy wrote:Did Cornsey come out and blame Port or is that the usual FB bullshit?
regards,
REB
by frogcake » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:02 pm
Jim05 wrote:Because fans are not interested in going to to watch a comp that is so compromised. All clubs are in the same boat.
I know plenty of Norwood supporters who have stopped going since the reserve teams entered and personally my interest is at an all time low and my financial supports of the club has been cut from thousands a year to a couple hundred.
by Jim05 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:08 pm
frogcake wrote:Jim05 wrote:Because fans are not interested in going to to watch a comp that is so compromised. All clubs are in the same boat.
I know plenty of Norwood supporters who have stopped going since the reserve teams entered and personally my interest is at an all time low and my financial supports of the club has been cut from thousands a year to a couple hundred.
lol. You seriously can't see how much of a cop-out that is?
The competition is no more compromised now than when you had AFL players running around in every SANFL team. Putting them all together at Port and the Ravens has not created 2 teams that dominate the comp which was the big fear initially.
People just aren't interested anymore because it's a poor product. 4 games a week, hardly ever see a nail-biting finish or even a close contest. A bye every second week. Yawn.
by amber_fluid » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:29 pm
therisingblues wrote:Thanks Jim.
There is a real lack of understanding about what's happening in the SANFL amongst non SANFL crowds. I listened to some well meaning suggestions on mmm this morning about how the SANFL can be fixed. KG thinks it's dead, some callers reckoned clubs need to put on meals, or players need to spend more time hanging the clubs. I had my 5 yo in the car with me and I had weekend things to take him to, I couldn't call in, but I wished they'd at least ACKNOWLEDGE there's a problem with the reserves being in.
AFL supporters looking in from the outside have no idea about the problems facing SANFL clubs, or the feeling of SANFL fans. Perhaps if we educate them there might be some hope, but in any case, the first goal should be to get the reserves out.
by RustyCage » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:36 pm
Rik E Boy wrote:Did Cornsey come out and blame Port or is that the usual FB bullshit?
regards,
REB
by gossipgirl » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:07 pm
frogcake wrote:therisingblues wrote:Pre reserves we were in a position to FIGHT this bullshit!
Since then crowds have fallen dramatically.
I'm only on my mobile, so it's hard to research but a quick search of this site produced the following figures posted by Spelly, there figures show crowds up to the second week of May:
1997: 3957 (24 matches, to Rd 7)
1998: 4132 (27, Rd 7)
1999: 3711 (27, Rd 7)
2000: 3296 (39, Rd 10)
2001: 4005 (27, Rd 7)
2002: 3761 (27, Rd 7)
2003: 3306 (27, Rd 7)
2004: 3589 (23, Rd 6)
2005: 3241 (27, Rd 7)
2006: 3256 (27, Rd 7)
2007: 3262 (23, Rd 6)
2008: 3672 (28, Rd 7)
2009: 3173 (28, Rd 7)
2010: 3580 (28, Rd 7)
2011: 3639 (23, Rd 6)
2012: 3286 (30, Rd
2013: 3407 (24, Rd 6)
2014: 3357 (25, Rd 6)
2015: 2637 (27, Rd 6)
Well **** me, look at the decline post reserves! I know the crowds have since fallen more.
We predicted this! We knew it would happen! The ONLY dissenters from this opinion on this forum were handfuls of Crows/Power fans pushing their club's agenda.
Now it's happened I'm now reading hogwash that ee have to lower our standards?
The first thing we must do is kick the bloody reserve out! No good going into battle with a bad appendix. We'll still have to fight for our survival, but we can't do it carrying such a horrible handicap.
I'd much rather the ravens folded than Glenelg.
What does the introduction of the Crows reserves have to do with Glenelgs declining crowds?
by therisingblues » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:07 pm
amber_fluid wrote:therisingblues wrote:Thanks Jim.
There is a real lack of understanding about what's happening in the SANFL amongst non SANFL crowds. I listened to some well meaning suggestions on mmm this morning about how the SANFL can be fixed. KG thinks it's dead, some callers reckoned clubs need to put on meals, or players need to spend more time hanging the clubs. I had my 5 yo in the car with me and I had weekend things to take him to, I couldn't call in, but I wished they'd at least ACKNOWLEDGE there's a problem with the reserves being in.
AFL supporters looking in from the outside have no idea about the problems facing SANFL clubs, or the feeling of SANFL fans. Perhaps if we educate them there might be some hope, but in any case, the first goal should be to get the reserves out.
I think the horse has bolted unfortunately!
They should never have been let in but removing them now will diminish interest in the Comp even further.
The product as mentioned previously just isn't what it use to be and people aren't willing to pay to watch a second tier Comp.
Amateur and country footy is now the preferred choice for most now after the AFL.
by Jim05 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:10 pm
gossipgirl wrote:frogcake wrote:therisingblues wrote:Pre reserves we were in a position to FIGHT this bullshit!
Since then crowds have fallen dramatically.
I'm only on my mobile, so it's hard to research but a quick search of this site produced the following figures posted by Spelly, there figures show crowds up to the second week of May:
1997: 3957 (24 matches, to Rd 7)
1998: 4132 (27, Rd 7)
1999: 3711 (27, Rd 7)
2000: 3296 (39, Rd 10)
2001: 4005 (27, Rd 7)
2002: 3761 (27, Rd 7)
2003: 3306 (27, Rd 7)
2004: 3589 (23, Rd 6)
2005: 3241 (27, Rd 7)
2006: 3256 (27, Rd 7)
2007: 3262 (23, Rd 6)
2008: 3672 (28, Rd 7)
2009: 3173 (28, Rd 7)
2010: 3580 (28, Rd 7)
2011: 3639 (23, Rd 6)
2012: 3286 (30, Rd
2013: 3407 (24, Rd 6)
2014: 3357 (25, Rd 6)
2015: 2637 (27, Rd 6)
Well **** me, look at the decline post reserves! I know the crowds have since fallen more.
We predicted this! We knew it would happen! The ONLY dissenters from this opinion on this forum were handfuls of Crows/Power fans pushing their club's agenda.
Now it's happened I'm now reading hogwash that ee have to lower our standards?
The first thing we must do is kick the bloody reserve out! No good going into battle with a bad appendix. We'll still have to fight for our survival, but we can't do it carrying such a horrible handicap.
I'd much rather the ravens folded than Glenelg.
What does the introduction of the Crows reserves have to do with Glenelgs declining crowds?
Absolutely nothing but some people just ain't that bright unfortunately
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