by bennymacca » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:02 pm
by Bombers4EVA » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:04 pm
Jim05 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Bombers4EVA wrote:bennymacca wrote:I agree that Hird should be afforded privacy
But I think its a bit rich for his dad to be claiming the AFL is the one without a moral compass after what his son put the players through
I believe there is a lot of information that we will never be privileged to know. A lot of us are only commenting on what we read on the internet without actually knowing what had been spoken.
Im sure most of you have read it by now, but this is really the only relevant information
http://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_u ... SENDON.pdf
A lot more to it than that though.
It's amazing to think that there were over 100 charges laid by WADA yet Hird was exonerated on all counts and never received a ban. ASADA themselves have placed the whole blame on Dank and said that all Hird was guilty of was putting too much trust in the club and support staff.
Evans and Corcoran hired Dank on the back of recommendations from Bomber and Dean Robinson, Hird actually had another candidate he wanted at the club but went along with the clubs choice. If the club had done their due diligence at the start Dank wouldn't have got through the front door
by Jim05 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:06 pm
Bombers4EVA wrote:Jim05 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Bombers4EVA wrote:[quote="bennymacca"]I agree that Hird should be afforded privacy
But I think its a bit rich for his dad to be claiming the AFL is the one without a moral compass after what his son put the players through
I believe there is a lot of information that we will never be privileged to know. A lot of us are only commenting on what we read on the internet without actually knowing what had been spoken.
Im sure most of you have read it by now, but this is really the only relevant information
http://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_u ... SENDON.pdf
A lot more to it than that though.
It's amazing to think that there were over 100 charges laid by WADA yet Hird was exonerated on all counts and never received a ban. ASADA themselves have placed the whole blame on Dank and said that all Hird was guilty of was putting too much trust in the club and support staff.
Evans and Corcoran hired Dank on the back of recommendations from Bomber and Dean Robinson, Hird actually had another candidate he wanted at the club but went along with the clubs choice. If the club had done their due diligence at the start Dank wouldn't have got through the front door
by Bombers4EVA » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:08 pm
by Jim05 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:09 pm
bennymacca wrote:True.
Without wanting to rehash old ground - its clear to me that hird knew that something slightly dodgy was going on and chose not to dig too deep. At the absolute least, he would have known they were pushing the boundaries right to the edge and chose to leave them to do it.
So I agree that Dank is clearly the one that deserves most of the blame, Hird and all of the other staff deserve to be slammed for their actions.
As has been said previously, its remarkable that people like evans, thompson, goodwin etc seem to have escaped unscathed, when i feel like they are equally as culpable as hird
by Gozu » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:10 pm
by Bombers4EVA » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:28 pm
Gozu wrote:Christ I can't get over the victimhood mentality of the Hird family, clearly now you can see where James gets it from. The guy deserves privacy after his OD but I've got no sympathy for him whatsoever just his poor kids and to a lesser degree his wife who at least has stuck by him. Hird is a self-centred prick to the end. He played a very big role in that drug scandal trying to cheat the system which is why thankfully his name deserves to be mud now but what about all the players lives he at least partially ruined?
Then he has the audacity to try and sue the AFL making everyone pay his costs getting some trip to France paid for him to attend some business course whilst still on full pay, a million dollars a year.
Finally decides it's all too hard I'm going to deprive my kids of a father and leave my loyal wife a widow to bring them up on her own.
Top bloke.
by Spargo » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:35 pm
Bombers4EVA wrote:Gozu wrote:Christ I can't get over the victimhood mentality of the Hird family, clearly now you can see where James gets it from. The guy deserves privacy after his OD but I've got no sympathy for him whatsoever just his poor kids and to a lesser degree his wife who at least has stuck by him. Hird is a self-centred prick to the end. He played a very big role in that drug scandal trying to cheat the system which is why thankfully his name deserves to be mud now but what about all the players lives he at least partially ruined?
Then he has the audacity to try and sue the AFL making everyone pay his costs getting some trip to France paid for him to attend some business course whilst still on full pay, a million dollars a year.
Finally decides it's all too hard I'm going to deprive my kids of a father and leave my loyal wife a widow to bring them up on her own.
Top bloke.
Wow oh wow.
by whufc » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:05 pm
Gozu wrote:Christ I can't get over the victimhood mentality of the Hird family, clearly now you can see where James gets it from. The guy deserves privacy after his OD but I've got no sympathy for him whatsoever just his poor kids and to a lesser degree his wife who at least has stuck by him. Hird is a self-centred prick to the end. He played a very big role in that drug scandal trying to cheat the system which is why thankfully his name deserves to be mud now but what about all the players lives he at least partially ruined?
Then he has the audacity to try and sue the AFL making everyone pay his costs getting some trip to France paid for him to attend some business course whilst still on full pay, a million dollars a year.
Finally decides it's all too hard I'm going to deprive my kids of a father and leave my loyal wife a widow to bring them up on her own.
Top bloke.
by Turbo » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:42 pm
Gozu wrote:Christ I can't get over the victimhood mentality of the Hird family, clearly now you can see where James gets it from. The guy deserves privacy after his OD but I've got no sympathy for him whatsoever just his poor kids and to a lesser degree his wife who at least has stuck by him. Hird is a self-centred prick to the end. He played a very big role in that drug scandal trying to cheat the system which is why thankfully his name deserves to be mud now but what about all the players lives he at least partially ruined?
Then he has the audacity to try and sue the AFL making everyone pay his costs getting some trip to France paid for him to attend some business course whilst still on full pay, a million dollars a year.
Finally decides it's all too hard I'm going to deprive my kids of a father and leave my loyal wife a widow to bring them up on her own.
Top bloke.
by FOURTH ESTATE » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:25 am
by Jim05 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:49 am
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:When is this bloke going to accept responsability for his actions.
I feel sorry for his kids having to go thru this and his wife to a lesser extent.
Grow Up Man Up and get a set and admit that you were wrong and the the road to healing will begin
Dank on the other hand is a lying piece of sh&t with no moral compass and needs to be stricken from the records of life the Scumbag!!!
by JK » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:19 pm
Jim05 wrote:FOURTH ESTATE wrote:When is this bloke going to accept responsability for his actions.
I feel sorry for his kids having to go thru this and his wife to a lesser extent.
Grow Up Man Up and get a set and admit that you were wrong and the the road to healing will begin
Dank on the other hand is a lying piece of sh&t with no moral compass and needs to be stricken from the records of life the Scumbag!!!
He has apologised numerous times in both private and public.
His latest actions are weak though. Nothing worth killing yourself for
by UK Fan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:07 pm
Ian wrote:UK Fan wrote:If Hird is hating all the media and alike.
Move to France US Canada etc... . Outside of Australia nobody would know him.
A lot better option than leaving your kids fatherless IMHO!!!!
Very simplistic UK, no one should have to continue living with the constant media (and public) abuse that he has after "serving their time"
Do you really think taking James away from his family and friends will help, let alone uprooting his whole family from those they hold dearest is best for everyone?
whufc wrote:Gozu wrote:Christ I can't get over the victimhood mentality of the Hird family, clearly now you can see where James gets it from. The guy deserves privacy after his OD but I've got no sympathy for him whatsoever just his poor kids and to a lesser degree his wife who at least has stuck by him. Hird is a self-centred prick to the end. He played a very big role in that drug scandal trying to cheat the system which is why thankfully his name deserves to be mud now but what about all the players lives he at least partially ruined?
Then he has the audacity to try and sue the AFL making everyone pay his costs getting some trip to France paid for him to attend some business course whilst still on full pay, a million dollars a year.
Finally decides it's all too hard I'm going to deprive my kids of a father and leave my loyal wife a widow to bring them up on her own.
Top bloke.
Real harsh but its hard to argue that your too far off the mark.
Personally the best thing i think the Hird family can do is pack up and move away.
Yes its unfair on the kids and the wife etc etc but it has to be a better option than her being a widow and the children being fatherless.
Even if the media in this country leave him alone its hard to see the general public in everyday life affording Hird that luxury. Unfortunately what has earnt him is millions on millions (being entertaining to people) is also one of the reasons he wont be afforded the privacy (not saying i agree or disagree)
fester69 wrote: I'm full of "pish and wind" !!You can call me weak !!
MW wrote: Well call me a special asshole!.
Booney wrote: I'm a happy clapper **** stick.
by Jim05 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:14 pm
by Ian » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:08 pm
Jim05 wrote:FOURTH ESTATE wrote:When is this bloke going to accept responsibility for his actions.
I feel sorry for his kids having to go thru this and his wife to a lesser extent.
Grow Up Man Up and get a set and admit that you were wrong and the the road to healing will begin
Dank on the other hand is a lying piece of sh&t with no moral compass and needs to be stricken from the records of life the Scumbag!!!
He has apologised numerous times in both private and public.
His latest actions are weak though. Nothing worth killing yourself for
by Ian » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:11 pm
UK Fan wrote:
Better option than killing yourself.
by Jim05 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:51 pm
by Booney » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:55 pm
Ian wrote:UK Fan wrote:
Better option than killing yourself.
I hope the "Black Dog" never gets to you UK, it has taken it's toll on plenty with far less scrutiny than Hird
by whufc » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:37 am
Booney wrote:Ian wrote:UK Fan wrote:
Better option than killing yourself.
I hope the "Black Dog" never gets to you UK, it has taken it's toll on plenty with far less scrutiny than Hird
Despite the mature, public conversations about suicide and depression people still make light of the situation. Makes you think if we've made any ground when people still call others "weak".
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