by bennymacca » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:21 am
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:38 am
am Bays wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Pretty easy to see how Trump got elected when people don't like the politicians from either side who, let's face it, are only in it for themselves
Yup it's why in 2018 we are going to have a hung Parliament here in SA,
NXT to have the BOP.
by Booney » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:43 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:Pretty easy to see how Trump got elected when people don't like the politicians from either side who, let's face it, are only in it for themselves
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:53 am
Booney wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Pretty easy to see how Trump got elected when people don't like the politicians from either side who, let's face it, are only in it for themselves
I think it's not just the politicians the public have grown tired of but the "yes" men/women who maintain their bureaucratic positions regardless of who holds office and continue to show high levels of ineptitude attempting to complete their day to day tasks. Health, Families SA as some wonderfully terrible examples.
The fact the spineless politicians do nothing about changing people in these roles shows how meek they are.
As such, I propose senior positions in departments are aligned to elections and a government change should see a change in senior departmental positions. Perhaps then voters could actually consider a change in party as making a change to the day to day running of important departments.
by Booney » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:56 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:Booney wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Pretty easy to see how Trump got elected when people don't like the politicians from either side who, let's face it, are only in it for themselves
I think it's not just the politicians the public have grown tired of but the "yes" men/women who maintain their bureaucratic positions regardless of who holds office and continue to show high levels of ineptitude attempting to complete their day to day tasks. Health, Families SA as some wonderfully terrible examples.
The fact the spineless politicians do nothing about changing people in these roles shows how meek they are.
As such, I propose senior positions in departments are aligned to elections and a government change should see a change in senior departmental positions. Perhaps then voters could actually consider a change in party as making a change to the day to day running of important departments.
You forget the "fearless and frank advice" doctrine, but, unfortunately, this Govt has belted that out of the PS
Anyone else getting sick of seeing the departments heads all lined up behind the Minister in his press release?
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:19 am
Booney wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Booney wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Pretty easy to see how Trump got elected when people don't like the politicians from either side who, let's face it, are only in it for themselves
I think it's not just the politicians the public have grown tired of but the "yes" men/women who maintain their bureaucratic positions regardless of who holds office and continue to show high levels of ineptitude attempting to complete their day to day tasks. Health, Families SA as some wonderfully terrible examples.
The fact the spineless politicians do nothing about changing people in these roles shows how meek they are.
As such, I propose senior positions in departments are aligned to elections and a government change should see a change in senior departmental positions. Perhaps then voters could actually consider a change in party as making a change to the day to day running of important departments.
You forget the "fearless and frank advice" doctrine, but, unfortunately, this Govt has belted that out of the PS
Anyone else getting sick of seeing the departments heads all lined up behind the Minister in his press release?
Yep, I guess that takes away the "faceless men" argument.
by am Bays » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:18 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:am Bays wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Pretty easy to see how Trump got elected when people don't like the politicians from either side who, let's face it, are only in it for themselves
Yup it's why in 2018 we are going to have a hung Parliament here in SA,
NXT to have the BOP.
From what I heard yesterday, you might see one or two Pauline Hanson people in there as well
by tipper » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:49 pm
bennymacca wrote:at least Xenophon doesnt seem to be in it for himself. I dont agree with a lot of his policies but I personally think he does what he says he is going to do with no ulterior motives
by Grenville » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:09 pm
tipper wrote:bennymacca wrote:at least Xenophon doesnt seem to be in it for himself. I dont agree with a lot of his policies but I personally think he does what he says he is going to do with no ulterior motives
bullshit. he is just as bad as the rest of them now. taking money from one pokie establishment to fund his legal fight against their competitor. just ask any North supporter.
by Booney » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:03 pm
tipper wrote:bennymacca wrote:at least Xenophon doesnt seem to be in it for himself. I dont agree with a lot of his policies but I personally think he does what he says he is going to do with no ulterior motives
bullshit. he is just as bad as the rest of them now. taking money from one pokie establishment to fund his legal fight against their competitor. just ask any North supporter.
by Psyber » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:57 am
by Trader » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:06 pm
Psyber wrote:I've known Nick since about 1980, though the last time I saw him in a social context was in 2009.
I don't agree with all his policies, but agree with quite a few.
He was certainly making a lot more money as a successful Adelaide Barrister than I think he stands to make out of Politics.
Grenville wrote:Xenophon is a political ambulance chaser, once the sirens stop he loses interest.
by MW » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:12 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:55 pm
MW wrote:isn't that when you want a pollie to stand up?
by tipper » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:27 pm
by stan » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:28 pm
tipper wrote:exactly. why cant we have proactive leaders? instead of always being reactive? the bail situation is no different here in south australia, we just havent had outcomes as bad as vic, yet. the latest lot of kids stealing cars would be our example. keep getting let out to offend again.....
the only times it seems they are proactive is when raising taxes (cough, levies, cough) or their own pay rises..... everything else is just pandering to the latest push on social media
by bennymacca » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:34 pm
by stan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:12 am
bennymacca wrote:Nick Xenophon had a huge hand in keeping the shipbuilding in SA
by Magellan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:17 am
stan wrote:bennymacca wrote:Nick Xenophon had a huge hand in keeping the shipbuilding in SA
Really? Hes a senator Im not sure how much he can really do besides threaten to vote against cetain bills.
by Wedgie » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:47 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
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