by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:42 am
by Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:46 am
morell wrote:Erin Brockivich won against all odds in the end too
by Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:48 am
morell wrote:Erin Brockivich won against all odds in the end too
by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:53 am
So you're saying I just need to cover up and people might take me seriously?Lightning McQueen wrote:morell wrote:Erin Brockivich won against all odds in the end too
I never got that far, once I conceded there was no cans on display I gave in.
by blackRoo » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:00 am
morell wrote:I know their senior leadership do. Well, they're a community of perhaps many hundreds of people. Some probably would some probably wouldn't.Lightning McQueen wrote:morell wrote:Smithfield and Salisbury West both had a year/years of struggle and then became really strong over a season or two.jo172 wrote:I'm a tad perplexed as to why the Para Hills situation is significantly different to the Smithfield of a few years ago and even Salisbury West of last year.
My suspicion is that the last lustrum has more or less normalised this kind of thing.
When Smithfield came we said nothing, when Salisbury West Came we said nothing, by the time Para Hills came there was no one left to speak up perhaps?
Para Hills are literally going to go:
D5 Flag > non-existent > D7 Flag
If that was:
D5 Flag > struggling with one team > D7 Flag
or
D5 Flag > non existent > D6 middle of the table
This would never have been raised. It's this notion of clubs and teams simply not willing to tough out a year of losses which is at the real core of the argument.
The notion of being "gifted" a D6 spot when they were last in D4 its utterly nonsensical when looked at through the viewpoint that they will have a year of easy games and frivolity in D7 instead.
Do you think PHFC would rather be in a higher division?
by Milly » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:11 am
by Bombers4EVA » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:23 am
Milly wrote:Please BlackRoo lets have no sense from a PH official on here. Lets just let Morell tell everyone where you should be playing and that ML should drop down to suit his argument.
Why in the hell would ML want to drop down when they have earnt the right to play in Div6.
If Lakes or any other club wanted to swap fine, but at this stage no one wants too and i know PH would jump at the opportunity to play higher if given the chance.
by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:33 am
And this post is a great example of why my point is valid. We, as clubs, get all hung up on what is fair or not fair for us or for individual rival clubs. The highest we raise our thought processes to is maybe the division we're in.Milly wrote:Please BlackRoo lets have no sense from a PH official on here. Lets just let Morell tell everyone where you should be playing and that ML should drop down to suit his argument.
Why in the hell would ML want to drop down when they have earnt the right to play in Div6.
If Lakes or any other club wanted to swap fine, but at this stage no one wants too and i know PH would jump at the opportunity to play higher if given the chance.
by Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:00 pm
Milly wrote:Please BlackRoo lets have no sense from a PH official on here. Lets just let Morell tell everyone where you should be playing and that ML should drop down to suit his argument.
Why in the hell would ML want to drop down when they have earnt the right to play in Div6.
If Lakes or any other club wanted to swap fine, but at this stage no one wants too and i know PH would jump at the opportunity to play higher if given the chance.
by Inallseriousness » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:05 pm
by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:07 pm
But but but but the rules LM the rules!!!!Lightning McQueen wrote:Milly wrote:Please BlackRoo lets have no sense from a PH official on here. Lets just let Morell tell everyone where you should be playing and that ML should drop down to suit his argument.
Why in the hell would ML want to drop down when they have earnt the right to play in Div6.
If Lakes or any other club wanted to swap fine, but at this stage no one wants too and i know PH would jump at the opportunity to play higher if given the chance.
Earnt the right vs Gifted the opportunity by circumstance.
They've got a 25% win ratio over the past 3 years where they've only won one game against a team that made the finals in the same season.
They have beaten Mitchell Park 4 times in this period, Angle Vale twice when they were about as good as Callington in their prime, the Lodge twice when they were at their lowest along with the same for Adelaide Lutheran.
Although I respect them as a club and have set up camp in a tough area for rivalry, I think they would've been more suited to go to div 7 to build some sustained success.
On a positive note, they've competed well many times against far more fancied opponents.
by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:08 pm
Inallseriousness wrote:Didn't 7 PH players play at Mitchell Park last year in a side that got relegated from Div 6? Maybe Div 7 is about right?
Of course that is said with tongue firmly in cheek!
by Milly » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:58 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:06 pm
Milly wrote:Ok so each years gradings are going to be done at the end of the latest clearance window?
Since we going to be grading clubs on the ins and outs.
by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:17 pm
by Bombers4EVA » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:26 pm
morell wrote:It doesn't have to be that complicated or rigid.
Just something like:
Clubs in Divisions 1 through 7 will follow the promotion and relegation system as per the above rules and regulation except where The League's discretion dictates that the evenness and equity of the competition itself is at threat, whereby The League shall have the opportunity to place individual clubs in the appropriate division given a sufficient period of consultation with the affected parties.
by Trader » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:28 pm
morell wrote:Imagine if the AFL weren't able to adjust the rules in which clubs were able to operate in? They make important strategic decisions for the betterment of the competition in general all the time. It might be unfair on one club or two clubs from time to time, but the direction of the comp will remain healthy over time because they have that capability.
by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:30 pm
How does your brain work.Bombers4EVA wrote:morell wrote:It doesn't have to be that complicated or rigid.
Just something like:
Clubs in Divisions 1 through 7 will follow the promotion and relegation system as per the above rules and regulation except where The League's discretion dictates that the evenness and equity of the competition itself is at threat, whereby The League shall have the opportunity to place individual clubs in the appropriate division given a sufficient period of consultation with the affected parties.
Opens up a large jar of pickles. Gives the clubs a chance to dictate where they will play everytime they go broke and then have lots of money to spend again. Example PARA HILLS.
by morell » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:32 pm
As individual fans, yeah.Trader wrote:morell wrote:Imagine if the AFL weren't able to adjust the rules in which clubs were able to operate in? They make important strategic decisions for the betterment of the competition in general all the time. It might be unfair on one club or two clubs from time to time, but the direction of the comp will remain healthy over time because they have that capability.
I think there are a lot of people that would be quite happy if the AFL stopped changing the rules!
by blackRoo » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:08 pm
Bombers4EVA wrote:morell wrote:It doesn't have to be that complicated or rigid.
Just something like:
Clubs in Divisions 1 through 7 will follow the promotion and relegation system as per the above rules and regulation except where The League's discretion dictates that the evenness and equity of the competition itself is at threat, whereby The League shall have the opportunity to place individual clubs in the appropriate division given a sufficient period of consultation with the affected parties.
Opens up a large jar of pickles. Gives the clubs a chance to dictate where they will play everytime they go broke and then have lots of money to spend again. Example PARA HILLS.
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