bennymacca wrote:Well the 12 months off surreptitiously turned into nearly 18 months somehow
Stop using big words lol..
by The Bedge » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:25 am
bennymacca wrote:Well the 12 months off surreptitiously turned into nearly 18 months somehow
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:26 am
bennymacca wrote:HH3 wrote:Which assertion?
I don't understand what you think should happen? Do you want females paid more per hour for part time work or not working at all, so they earn the same as a male that works 40+ hours a week? Or vise versa. Males that don't work as many hours to be paid more per hour than females that work full time?
I really don't understand what you think the goal should be?
I want to understand though.
If you go onto a job panel at work you need to do bias training and quite often names are removed from applications. Things like that can make a difference.
I don't believe in paying women more, I'm just pointing out that there is still a bias in some areas where, even after controlling for life circumstances, there is a pay difference.
Ie if you only took into account women who did not want to have kids there is still a difference. Maybe they get passed up for opportunities due to the perception they might leave and have kids.
I don't have the answers I'm just challenging your assertion that it's not still a problem in some areas
by amber_fluid » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:32 am
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:45 am
amber_fluid wrote:Do people with big dicks get paid more than people with little dicks??
I knew I wasted my time studying..........
by valleys07 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:54 am
bennymacca wrote:Maybe they get passed up for opportunities due to the perception they might leave and have kids.
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:05 pm
valleys07 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Maybe they get passed up for opportunities due to the perception they might leave and have kids.
I cannot contribute too much to this debate, but I know for a fact that this happens.
by valleys07 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:06 pm
HH3 wrote:Probably, but those sorts of biases aren't exclusive to women.
by MW » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:15 pm
valleys07 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Maybe they get passed up for opportunities due to the perception they might leave and have kids.
I cannot contribute too much to this debate, but I know for a fact that this happens.
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:19 pm
MW wrote:valleys07 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Maybe they get passed up for opportunities due to the perception they might leave and have kids.
I cannot contribute too much to this debate, but I know for a fact that this happens.
My wife got told by her boss during an argument about how the business was going, words to the effect "it's your fault for having so many kids"
by MW » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:22 pm
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:22 pm
Example (indirect discrimination)
A factory announced that workers with ten continuous years service would get a pay rise. More women than men had interrupted their service to have children, so fewer women got the rise. Female workers could claim they were indirectly discriminated against by the factory.
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:23 pm
HH3 wrote:MW wrote:valleys07 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Maybe they get passed up for opportunities due to the perception they might leave and have kids.
I cannot contribute too much to this debate, but I know for a fact that this happens.
My wife got told by her boss during an argument about how the business was going, words to the effect "it's your fault for having so many kids"
If she chose to, she could have had got him in trouble for discrimination, because of the current laws in place that people seem to ignore exist to allow themselves to argue with people.
https://www.ag.gov.au/RightsAndProtecti ... n-Law.aspx
(its not Wikipedia, but it's almost as good)
by bennymacca » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:37 pm
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:45 pm
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:49 pm
Wikipedia is not considered a credible source. Wikipedia is increasingly used by people in the academic community, from freshman students to professors, as an easily accessible tertiary source for information about anything and everything. However, citation of Wikipedia in research papers may be considered unacceptable, because Wikipedia is not considered a credible or authoritative source.[1][2][3]
This is especially true considering anyone can edit the information given at any time, and although most errors are immediately fixed, some errors maintain unnoticed. However, it can be noted that Wikipedia's Good Articles and Featured Articles are some degree more advanced, professional, and generally more credible than an article not labeled Good or Featured. It is because these articles are reviewed heavily and edited many, many times, passing various "tests" before being confirmed Good or Featured, that they can be used for some deeper research than usual. It is Wikipedia's Featured Articles that are especially trustworthy in contrast to normal or even good articles, as they have to pass even more rigorous "tests" to become featured, as they are to be "the best of Wikipedia", "a model for other articles", and thus, a much more reliable source than average articles.
by bennymacca » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:55 pm
HH3 wrote:Considering anyone can change Wikipedia pages to suit their own opinion, I never use it to research any emotionally charged topics.
And I'm 90% sure it's not allowed to be used as a reference in any form of tertiary study.
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:58 pm
bennymacca wrote:HH3 wrote:Considering anyone can change Wikipedia pages to suit their own opinion, I never use it to research any emotionally charged topics.
And I'm 90% sure it's not allowed to be used as a reference in any form of tertiary study.
of course you dont use it as a credible source, and you have to read anything critically.
but its a great starting point - usually has a list of references so you can find the authors of the journals that are referenced etc
by Booney » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:05 pm
by HH3 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:30 pm
Booney wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm 100% correct that one of you is female.
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