Booney wrote:By your own admission you don't watch the Magpies, perhaps do yourself and those who read your posts on here a favor. Get out there and watch a match and then tell me who deserves to come up into the AFL ranks, if not, your opinion isn't an educated one IMO. It's one built on half a picture and that's not sufficient enough to make judgement calls on. Not in my view.
We wouldn't know, because half the players that have played well in the magpies still don't get a call up. There are plenty of people that do go to Magpies games that very much agree with my viewpoint - you also don't need to go to Mars to know it's red.
It's been proven countless times how form in one doesn't always correlate to form in the other. There have been numerous times where Hinkley could have brought in player x or player y after a solid week or two and he chose to back the status quo. Some players have the skill set to dominate at SANFL level but have no upside to improve at AFL level. Some players are the exact opposite, they will lift and play at whatever level they're playing at.
Howard should have been played. Eddy should have been played. Neade should never of been played. Frampton should have been played. Pittard should have never been bought back in. Houston should never have been dropped (x2). Austin should never of been played.
These examples continue on for days.
There have been structural, selection, cultural and mental issues at Port all season. Many posters have tried to explain this to you and others but have routinely been told that all is well. It's not. Change is needed - Hinkley, Nicks and Voss out to start.
"Howard should have been played" - Where would you have played him?
Booney wrote:By your own admission you don't watch the Magpies, perhaps do yourself and those who read your posts on here a favor. Get out there and watch a match and then tell me who deserves to come up into the AFL ranks, if not, your opinion isn't an educated one IMO. It's one built on half a picture and that's not sufficient enough to make judgement calls on. Not in my view.
We wouldn't know, because half the players that have played well in the magpies still don't get a call up. There are plenty of people that do go to Magpies games that very much agree with my viewpoint - you also don't need to go to Mars to know it's red.
It's been proven countless times how form in one doesn't always correlate to form in the other. There have been numerous times where Hinkley could have brought in player x or player y after a solid week or two and he chose to back the status quo. Some players have the skill set to dominate at SANFL level but have no upside to improve at AFL level. Some players are the exact opposite, they will lift and play at whatever level they're playing at.
Howard should have been played. Eddy should have been played. Neade should never of been played. Frampton should have been played. Pittard should have never been bought back in. Houston should never have been dropped (x2). Austin should never of been played.
These examples continue on for days.
There have been structural, selection, cultural and mental issues at Port all season. Many posters have tried to explain this to you and others but have routinely been told that all is well. It's not. Change is needed - Hinkley, Nicks and Voss out to start.
"Howard should have been played" - Where would you have played him?
Trengove's spot and then move Trengove back. If we're playing a small forward line (eg Richmond) then drop the worst performing tall back.
At a minimum he would provide the same output as Trengove, but... we develop a young key position player.
Howard has already showed that he's capable at AFL level. I understand not picking him early on to let him settle into the year. I would've played Eddy until he was in good nick.
Brodlach wrote:If you are thinking Eddy is the missing link you are wwwaaayyyyy off course.
Urghh.
He's not.
The non selection of a role capable second tall forward, is part of the missing link.
I dont mean just yesterday but I have seen plenty of Eddy over the past 3 years to know he is not quite up to AFL standard.
Yeah I get that, but he doesn't have to be to still provide a better structure and balance to the side. It's less about just his output and more about the improvement to the rest of the team having someone that is even a little bit capable to mark and kick a goal.
I would probably pick a younger type with more upside as well.
This discussion has been had way too many times and to he honest I am kind of over it.
Booney wrote:Howard has been playing at CHB in the Magpies.
Who cares! He's played on the wing too. He has always been a tall utility type. He's played AFL up forward, is tall, can mark, can kick, is young. Play him.
Young plays midfield for the maggies, where does he play for the Power? Honestly mate that is a pretty stupid argument.
Brodlach wrote:I actually agree you do need other tall forward to help Dixon out but Eddy is not the answer. Who was the last decent forward the Power have drafted?
We dont beleive in tall forwards who can kick goals. It's all about dat presssaahhh
Brodlach wrote:I actually agree you do need other tall forward to help Dixon out but Eddy is not the answer. Who was the last decent forward the Power have drafted?
We haven't, it's well documented that we wasted 3 years on Shaw and Harvey and as a result had to go all out for Dixon.
Booney wrote:Howard has been playing at CHB in the Magpies.
Who cares! He's played on the wing too. He has always been a tall utility type. He's played AFL up forward, is tall, can mark, can kick, is young. Play him.
Young plays midfield for the maggies, where does he play for the Power? Honestly mate that is a pretty stupid argument.
Young plays mid/fwd at the Magpies and fwd/mid in the AFL. Half a picture.
Brodlach wrote:I actually agree you do need other tall forward to help Dixon out but Eddy is not the answer. Who was the last decent forward the Power have drafted?
We haven't, it's well documented that we wasted 3 years on Shaw and Harvey and as a result had to go all out for Dixon.
Throw Lobbe back in the ruck and Ryder up forward (or vice versa)
July 11th 2012....
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
2024 Melbourne Cup Punting Challenge winner knocking off the Pirate King!
Brodlach wrote:I actually agree you do need other tall forward to help Dixon out but Eddy is not the answer. Who was the last decent forward the Power have drafted?
We haven't, it's well documented that we wasted 3 years on Shaw and Harvey and as a result had to go all out for Dixon.
Throw Lobbe back in the ruck and Ryder up forward (or vice versa)
Lobbe? Nah, don't think so, if anything Frampton comes in.
Brodlach wrote:I actually agree you do need other tall forward to help Dixon out but Eddy is not the answer. Who was the last decent forward the Power have drafted?
We haven't, it's well documented that we wasted 3 years on Shaw and Harvey and as a result had to go all out for Dixon.
Thought you pulled the pin a bit early on Shaw. The bigger lads take a bit longer to come on. Has gone back to the WAFL and kicked over 50 last year and on target to do it again this year. Reckon he was worth persevering with
