Rd 20 2007 Eagles v North

[Mickyj]

I like the North fans optimism.

They look forward to the next meeting, and according to wedgie are going to SH1T all over us next time we meet, yes, this is a quote.

Funny thing is they have been repeating they will beat us "next time" for a while. If they keep saying it eventually they might be right.

The more I think about the inclusions North had, the mre I am happy with our narrow win. I also take it that North are supremely confident that they will beat sturt in the last round to hang on to third spot.

Eddie they do beat the EAGLES the first game of the year and smash the eagles but somehow in the important games they go missing!!
I will get more worried when Jarman learns that all out attack will not win you an entire finals campgain.
And I am not having ago at North fans here have watched North in the finals the last few years as both a neutral and oppersition fan and IMHO you need more than all out attack.

[Wedgie]

Eddie they do beat the EAGLES the first game of the year and smash the eagles but somehow in the important games they go missing!!
I will get more worried when Jarman learns that all out attack will not win you an entire finals campgain.
And I am not having ago at North fans here have watched North in the finals the last few years as both a neutral and oppersition fan and IMHO you need more than all out attack.

We've got the 2nd best defence in the league behind Central!

I don't think we exactly went missing in the Prelim last year going down by less than 2 kicks with half the side out injured even having to debut players in just about each finals game! Yes we were beaten by a better side but missing?
Losing a Grand Final by 125 points is going missing.

[rod_rooster]

If NA still wants to play M. Wundke in the reserves I'm sure the Eagles could find a spot for him in the league team.

Hands off buddy Wundke is very much in North's plans for the finals and i along with almost all other supporters would have liked him to play last Saturday.

[wedgetail]

A very succinct analysis Ferret of the merits of Grocke v McGregor. In an ideal Eagles finals side would have Grocke at CHF and McGregor at CHB (as I mentioned 2-3 weeks ago, McGregor is the missing jigsaw puzzle piece if the Crows allow him to play).
To me, Lomas is a barometer of our side at the moment. His efforts in the second half against PAM, Sturt and North have been inspirational and lifted the team. He is a gun!

[spell_check]

Eddie they do beat the EAGLES the first game of the year and smash the eagles but somehow in the important games they go missing!!
I will get more worried when Jarman learns that all out attack will not win you an entire finals campgain.
And I am not having ago at North fans here have watched North in the finals the last few years as both a neutral and oppersition fan and IMHO you need more than all out attack.

We've got the 2nd best defence in the league behind Central!

I don't think we exactly went missing in the Prelim last year going down by less than 2 kicks with half the side out injured even having to debut players in just about each finals game! Yes we were beaten by a better side but missing?
Losing a Grand Final by 125 points is going missing.

I know how you feel Wedgie, knowing the 1989 GF comments will be brought up forever, just as the 2004 GF will for us.

[Jackal]

Ferrett...I totally agree with your comments regarding McGregor vs Groecke for the Eagles best value at Centre Half Forward. Despite Ken's lack of mobility he still played a solid game for the Eagles, whereas Groecke is a more dynamic option and definetely adds to our running game. Interesting that McGregor did not rate in the club's best 5 players on Saturday night yet the new reporter at The Advertiser found him best on ground...I think the research performed here was rather shallow.
Let's hope we can hang on to McGregor for the rest of the year and use him as a tall option in defence, unfortunately all Perrie did on Saturday was make McGregor look like the next best option for the Crows.

[BPBRB]

I like the North fans optimism.

They look forward to the next meeting, and according to wedgie are going to SH1T all over us next time we meet, yes, this is a quote.

Funny thing is they have been repeating they will beat us "next time" for a while. If they keep saying it eventually they might be right.

The more I think about the inclusions North had, the mre I am happy with our narrow win. I also take it that North are supremely confident that they will beat sturt in the last round to hang on to third spot.

We shouldn't be looking fwd to our next meeting or comig games with any hope! Sh*t if you have no optimism and belief, especially when your team is 3rd and lost by less than a kick to the reigning premier then why would bother supporting a team or actually going to the football - stupid statement! Before your club mutated from Woodville and Torrens did you actually go to a SANFL game - if you did, you would have put up with decades of misery, regardless of which side of the mutant birth you come from! You either never went or can only Eagles fans be optimistic?

As for inclusions - I suppose McGregor and Vince don't count? We had one more AFL player than you as inclusion's but to temper that we had our skipper in the ressies after missing 6 weeks, Howard out on suspension, lost our V/Capt 2 minutes in with a hammy, our CHB Schubert got a corky just before 1/4 and spent considerable time on the bench, and one of our AFL inclusions in Damon White got a corky just before half time and had to come off in the third and was not right when he came back on.

The only Eagles obvious injury I could see was Symmons who looked "shot" with his ankle but amazingly came back on for a fairly long spell before going off near the end of the game.

Geez the statement you made above "The more I think about it" you might want to actually think next time!

[spell_check]

By the way, this is the most commented game on this forum, beating last years Grand Final!

[Hondo]

Some Eagles supporters are definitely going to town on a 3 point win at their home ground North go missing for 1 quarter and the Eagles scrape a win and now we are almost their bitches by the sounds of some comments

2 evenly matched teams IMO

[cd]

2 very evenly matched teams - agree Hondo - we know we can win and i believe North feel the same way - thus the great game we saw.

[Hondo]

2 very evenly matched teams - agree Hondo - we know we can win and i believe North feel the same way - thus the great game we saw.

One of the most entertaining SANFL games I have seen this season - which isn't as much as I would like but still .....

[spell_check]

Some Eagles supporters are definitely going to town on a 3 point win at their home ground North go missing for 1 quarter and the Eagles scrape a win and now we are almost their bitches by the sounds of some comments

2 evenly matched teams IMO

I'm glad you said "some"! That wasn't our best performance for the year, and we were very lucky to come away with the win, given we only won one quarter. But you can take what you get.

[ferret]

Stop whinging BPBRB you're making a fool of yourself.

Poor losers always stoop to the old "chesnut" about WWT being a mutated club....how pathetic. I look at this way, we are only getting back what was taken from us in 1964.

What difference does it really make, the boundaries are based on the number of males 21 and under and the zones for each club have relatively the same numbers.....................so WWT don't have twice as many to choose from. What really counts is how your zone is worked, selective recruiting and the ability of the coach.

Last Saturday WWT had Cooper playing reserves coming back from injury (most probably running second in the B&F), Grocke and Nick Salter. Grocke and Salter have most probably been our best forwards this season. Salter in his last four matches before getting injured kicked 19 goals.

Colville was only playing his second league game for the year and is still lacking match fitness, the same can be said for Inkster only his third game and McKenzie played only his second game in ten weeks.

BPBRB we all can find reasons/excuses for being able to do better.

[LPH]

We've got the 2nd best defence in the league behind Central!

I don't think we exactly went missing in the Prelim last year going down by less than 2 kicks with half the side out injured even having to debut players in just about each finals game! Yes we were beaten by a better side but missing?
Losing a Grand Final by 125 points is going missing.

Err... kicking 1 goal in a GF would also qualify... wouldn't it??

& yes I agree spelly, some have gone a little overboard regarding the 3pt victory. I thought we were a tad fortunate ,yself

[BPBRB]

Stop whinging BPBRB you're making a fool of yourself.

Poor losers always stoop to the old "chesnut" about WWT being a mutated club....how pathetic. I look at this way, we are only getting back what was taken from us in 1964.

What difference does it really make, the boundaries are based on the number of males 21 and under and the zones for each club have relatively the same numbers.....................so WWT don't have twice as many to choose from. What really counts is how your zone is worked, selective recruiting and the ability of the coach.

Last Saturday WWT had Cooper playing reserves coming back from injury (most probably running second in the B&F), Grocke and Nick Salter. Grocke and Salter have most probably been our best forwards this season. Salter in his last four matches before getting injured kicked 19 goals.

Colville was only playing his second league game for the year and is still lacking match fitness, the same can be said for Inkster only his third game and McKenzie played only his second game in ten weeks.

BPBRB we all can find reasons/excuses for being able to do better.

You missed the point of my post - Eddies was inferring that with our inclusions your win was huge? He is being a little selective given we only had one more AFL inclusion - one of whom happened to get injured before half time and did zip in the second half. Correct me if I'm wrong but McGregor was the biggest inclusion at the end of the day being named BOG by all in the media so clearly based on that you wouldn't have won with out him? Eddie failed to mention him or Vince. Geez you better make sure he stays with the Eagles for the finals or your gone!

[Aerie]

Stop whinging BPBRB you're making a fool of yourself.

Poor losers always stoop to the old "chesnut" about WWT being a mutated club....how pathetic. I look at this way, we are only getting back what was taken from us in 1964.

What difference does it really make, the boundaries are based on the number of males 21 and under and the zones for each club have relatively the same numbers.....................so WWT don't have twice as many to choose from. What really counts is how your zone is worked, selective recruiting and the ability of the coach.

Last Saturday WWT had Cooper playing reserves coming back from injury (most probably running second in the B&F), Grocke and Nick Salter. Grocke and Salter have most probably been our best forwards this season. Salter in his last four matches before getting injured kicked 19 goals.

Colville was only playing his second league game for the year and is still lacking match fitness, the same can be said for Inkster only his third game and McKenzie played only his second game in ten weeks.

BPBRB we all can find reasons/excuses for being able to do better.

You missed the point of my post - Eddies was inferring that with our inclusions your win was huge? He is being a little selective given we only had one more AFL inclusion - one of whom happened to get injured before half time and did zip in the second half. Correct me if I'm wrong but McGregor was the biggest inclusion at the end of the day being named BOG by all in the media so clearly based on that you wouldn't have won with out him? Eddie failed to mention him or Vince. Geez you better make sure he stays with the Eagles for the finals or your gone!

Also the fact our AFL players are home grown and yours were all gifted to you might have given us an advantage.

[Mickyj]

Stop whinging BPBRB you're making a fool of yourself.

Poor losers always stoop to the old "chesnut" about WWT being a mutated club....how pathetic. I look at this way, we are only getting back what was taken from us in 1964.

What difference does it really make, the boundaries are based on the number of males 21 and under and the zones for each club have relatively the same numbers.....................so WWT don't have twice as many to choose from. What really counts is how your zone is worked, selective recruiting and the ability of the coach.

Last Saturday WWT had Cooper playing reserves coming back from injury (most probably running second in the B&F), Grocke and Nick Salter. Grocke and Salter have most probably been our best forwards this season. Salter in his last four matches before getting injured kicked 19 goals.

Colville was only playing his second league game for the year and is still lacking match fitness, the same can be said for Inkster only his third game and McKenzie played only his second game in ten weeks.

BPBRB we all can find reasons/excuses for being able to do better.

You missed the point of my post - Eddies was inferring that with our inclusions your win was huge? He is being a little selective given we only had one more AFL inclusion - one of whom happened to get injured before half time and did zip in the second half. Correct me if I'm wrong but McGregor was the biggest inclusion at the end of the day being named BOG by all in the media so clearly based on that you wouldn't have won with out him? Eddie failed to mention him or Vince. Geez you better make sure he stays with the Eagles for the finals or your gone!

Perhaps some of us have gone overboard with the win .But being there we were gone at halftime and North should never have lost that match .Not quite as bad as PAM vs WWT at Alberton but in the same vain.
WWT playing bad football come away with a much needed win in two games vs PAM and North.
Which of our home grown aFL listed players are you talking about Vince or Macgregor .Because last week against sturt both sides league and seconds had no AFL listed players.Somewhere on this forum I asked Spelly how many times this occurred. And some of WWT's biggest wins this year have been without AFL help.

And as a group of fans going overboard seems to me more a north fans thing to do look at all the umpire posts !!
Just my two cents worth and lets not forget I am a one eyed WWT supporter green blue and yellow in one eye .

So see ya in the finals !!

[BPBRB]

Good call there Aerie. I think the win was a good one by the Eagles regardless of what we North people think re some of the umpiring because as I posted first on this game, the third quarter cost us letting a very good side back into the game then let it take control. It's fair to carry on re the win - we all do it but making statements about our inclusions making it a better win than it was is a little over the top by a couple of one eyed supporters. Still it is done and dusted now and as usual by Tuesday the new week starts!

Re winning without AFL players - that was us against Centrals save for McIntyre who hasn't debuted yet and is only just on the Crows list. I think too many changes can often hurt - whether that was a factor for North who knows but at halftime it was looking good?

Re your last line - I hope we do but I can't see it happening unfortunately - at least not the first week and very doubtful week 2 as well.

[eddie-eagle]

I like the North fans optimism.

They look forward to the next meeting, and according to wedgie are going to SH1T all over us next time we meet, yes, this is a quote.

Funny thing is they have been repeating they will beat us "next time" for a while. If they keep saying it eventually they might be right.

The more I think about the inclusions North had, the mre I am happy with our narrow win. I also take it that North are supremely confident that they will beat sturt in the last round to hang on to third spot.

Eddie they do beat the EAGLES the first game of the year and smash the eagles but somehow in the important games they go missing!!
I will get more worried when Jarman learns that all out attack will not win you an entire finals campgain.
And I am not having ago at North fans here have watched North in the finals the last few years as both a neutral and oppersition fan and IMHO you need more than all out attack.

Agreed Mickyj. Going missing could be defined as going into a grand final with ONE GOAL in mind. Where is that former crows runner craig burton anyway.

Merely balancing the umpires bleating with some facts about the AFL inclusions, and North's Side on paper should win the flag. Aerie has also balanced any injury excuses nicely with the facts on our best performed players players missing(Salter, grocke, coops) & underdone (squid, scratch & macca) How good was macca's smother & grabing of the ball in quarter two!!

Will wait for the much promised defecation I guess.

Lomas in the three boundary throw ins by the eagles goalmouth in the third quarter got all three kicks from the clearances, he is certainly the form player for the eags at the mo.

[eddie-eagle]

Stop whinging BPBRB you're making a fool of yourself.

Poor losers always stoop to the old "chesnut" about WWT being a mutated club....how pathetic. I look at this way, we are only getting back what was taken from us in 1964.

What difference does it really make, the boundaries are based on the number of males 21 and under and the zones for each club have relatively the same numbers.....................so WWT don't have twice as many to choose from. What really counts is how your zone is worked, selective recruiting and the ability of the coach.

Last Saturday WWT had Cooper playing reserves coming back from injury (most probably running second in the B&F), Grocke and Nick Salter. Grocke and Salter have most probably been our best forwards this season. Salter in his last four matches before getting injured kicked 19 goals.

Colville was only playing his second league game for the year and is still lacking match fitness, the same can be said for Inkster only his third game and McKenzie played only his second game in ten weeks.

BPBRB we all can find reasons/excuses for being able to do better.

You missed the point of my post - Eddies was inferring that with our inclusions your win was huge? He is being a little selective given we only had one more AFL inclusion - one of whom happened to get injured before half time and did zip in the second half. Correct me if I'm wrong but McGregor was the biggest inclusion at the end of the day being named BOG by all in the media so clearly based on that you wouldn't have won with out him? Eddie failed to mention him or Vince. Geez you better make sure he stays with the Eagles for the finals or your gone!

Bernie would be close to having played more games himself for the eagles this year than lonie, perrie & white combined for North. Based on this I did not think his inclusion was out of he ordinary to need a mention. Mcgregor cetainly was an added bonus, but replacing salts or grocke.

People should not forget that the eagles kicked around 5.10 in the first quarter of last years pelim. Had it been 10.5 we would have started resting earlier for the GF than when we did.