by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:36 pm
by woodublieve12 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:44 pm
bennymacca wrote:How are they different?
It’s obviously based on my subjective and biased opinion and I only really have news reports to go on, but I feel like there are players that go home for family reasons, and there are players that use “family reasons” to jump ship. It’s entirely possible they all have legitimate family reasons to move, but in a lot of cases it would be purely a better offer.
Someone like lever clearly got a mega deal to leave - and I can’t begrudge him that.
I personally think players shouldn’t fear coming out and saying yeah I’m moving at the end of the year.
A bit more transparency would be good I reckon.
by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:45 pm
by Booney » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:46 pm
woodublieve12 wrote:bennymacca wrote:How are they different?
It’s obviously based on my subjective and biased opinion and I only really have news reports to go on, but I feel like there are players that go home for family reasons, and there are players that use “family reasons” to jump ship. It’s entirely possible they all have legitimate family reasons to move, but in a lot of cases it would be purely a better offer.
Someone like lever clearly got a mega deal to leave - and I can’t begrudge him that.
I personally think players shouldn’t fear coming out and saying yeah I’m moving at the end of the year.
A bit more transparency would be good I reckon.
Nor should you begrudge Lever. He saw out his contract and what ever reason he didn’t re sign is irrelevant.
by The Bedge » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:49 pm
bennymacca wrote:So you don’t think we would benefit from greater transparency like we see in other sports?
No, don't think people should know what players are getting paid - it's their career/job, that information deserves to remain confidential. Plus could only imagine the increased uproar and scrutiny players would come under for poor performances if supporters knew their wages.bennymacca wrote:Particularly around what players are paid
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Booney » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:50 pm
bennymacca wrote:So you don’t think we would benefit from greater transparency like we see in other sports?
I certainly do. Particularly around what players are paid
by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:50 pm
by Booney » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:51 pm
bennymacca wrote:Yep. Can’t fault his endeavour on the field, even when he obviously knew he was going a month beforehand.
I would rather they officially sign that contract though and it’s made public - because at the moment it’s all handshake rubbish as Melbourne isn’t able to officially offer him anything anyway.
I have said this before but I would like to see free agency reduced to 5 years but players under contract can be traded at the whim of the clubs. The players have way too much power at the moment.
by Gozu » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:55 pm
bennymacca wrote:I personally think players shouldn’t fear coming out and saying yeah I’m moving at the end of the year.
A bit more transparency would be good I reckon.
by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:55 pm
Booney wrote:
If we were to look at disclosing salaries I think we could have something like :
Geelong :
Cat 1 - $700k+ 4 players
Cat 2 - $600-700k 6 players
Cat 3 - $500-600k 13 players
Booney wrote:Would you disclose to the wider population on here or at the Xmas dinner table what you earn?
by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:56 pm
Gozu wrote:bennymacca wrote:I personally think players shouldn’t fear coming out and saying yeah I’m moving at the end of the year.
A bit more transparency would be good I reckon.
It's because footy clubs and supporters have an insular mindset. If a player comes out mid season and says 'That's it I'm off at the end of the year" the club would probably refuse to play him again, his teammates would ostracise him and the fans would turn on him and make the rest of his time a living hell. No player would be stupid enough to do that to themselves, that's why we get all the mealy mouthed "I and my management will sit down at the end of the season" crap when deals have already been stitched up with other clubs.
Footy clubs are built on this stuff and they've got a long way to go to reach truly professional sporting leagues like the NBA for example where free agency, trades and the banter between fans of which players might go where is half the fun of it.
by woodublieve12 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:56 pm
bennymacca wrote:So you don’t think we would benefit from greater transparency like we see in other sports?
I certainly do. Particularly around what players are paid
by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:57 pm
woodublieve12 wrote:bennymacca wrote:So you don’t think we would benefit from greater transparency like we see in other sports?
I certainly do. Particularly around what players are paid
None of my business what someone gets paid... I think it’s crap how in the NRL players say they are leaving mid season, shit look imo.
by Booney » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:58 pm
Gozu wrote:bennymacca wrote:I personally think players shouldn’t fear coming out and saying yeah I’m moving at the end of the year.
A bit more transparency would be good I reckon.
It's because footy clubs and supporters have an insular mindset. If a player comes out mid season and says 'That's it I'm off at the end of the year" the club would probably refuse to play him again, his teammates would ostracise him and the fans would turn on him and make the rest of his time a living hell. No player would be stupid enough to do that to themselves, that's why we get all the mealy mouthed "I and my management will sit down at the end of the season" crap when deals have already been stitched up with other clubs.
Footy clubs are built on this stuff and they've got a long way to go to reach truly professional sporting leagues like the NBA for example where free agency, trades and the banter between fans of which players might go where is half the fun of it.
by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:59 pm
by bennymacca » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:00 pm
by Gozu » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:04 pm
Booney wrote:Gozu wrote:bennymacca wrote:I personally think players shouldn’t fear coming out and saying yeah I’m moving at the end of the year.
A bit more transparency would be good I reckon.
It's because footy clubs and supporters have an insular mindset. If a player comes out mid season and says 'That's it I'm off at the end of the year" the club would probably refuse to play him again, his teammates would ostracise him and the fans would turn on him and make the rest of his time a living hell. No player would be stupid enough to do that to themselves, that's why we get all the mealy mouthed "I and my management will sit down at the end of the season" crap when deals have already been stitched up with other clubs.
Footy clubs are built on this stuff and they've got a long way to go to reach truly professional sporting leagues like the NBA for example where free agency, trades and the banter between fans of which players might go where is half the fun of it.
Do NBA players declare mid season they're moving and to where?
by bennymacca » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:13 pm
by Spargo » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:35 pm
bennymacca wrote:Yesss. Best SA kid in the draft taken by the crows.
Now he only had port to leave to [emoji2]
by Dutchy » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:46 pm
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