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Re: US

Postby Q. » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:30 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Q. wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:God help the world if Oprah runs/wins next election...
#catastrophe
As catastrophic as the current incumbent?

She's just another neoliberal fanatic anyway who would sell out America's working class just as quickly as Trump has.
Not sure she would lower unemployment like it has in this term

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Re: US

Postby Magellan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:49 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:God help the world if Oprah runs/wins next election...
#catastrophe

It won't have taken long, but if true, politics in one of the world's most powerful nations will have been reduced to a contest of television celebrities.

Hopefully common sense prevails and those running the election will simply play re-runs of 'The Apprentice' up against Oprah's talk show, with the TV ratings determining who wins the presidency.
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Re: US

Postby Booney » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:32 am

Magellan wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:God help the world if Oprah runs/wins next election...
#catastrophe

It won't have taken long, but if true, politics in one of the world's most powerful nations will have been reduced to a contest of television celebrities.

Hopefully common sense prevails and those running the election will simply play re-runs of 'The Apprentice' up against Oprah's talk show, with the TV ratings determining who wins the presidency.


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Re: US

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:33 pm

Oprah following on from this current fool would be a disaster.
Self-serving pile of trash, just pretends that social justice is her passion.
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Re: US

Postby Magellan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:07 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Oprah following on from this current fool would be a disaster.
Self-serving pile of trash, just pretends that social justice is her passion.

She'd be just as clueless as Trump is. Another unlicensed driver steering the bus.
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Re: US

Postby HH3 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:09 pm

Magellan wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Oprah following on from this current fool would be a disaster.
Self-serving pile of trash, just pretends that social justice is her passion.

She'd be just as clueless as Trump is. Another unlicensed driver steering the bus.


She'd be more likely to be impeached than Trump would.

She'd try to give everybody everything and the country would be broke in 6 months.
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Re: US

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:42 pm

HH3 wrote:
Magellan wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Oprah following on from this current fool would be a disaster.
Self-serving pile of trash, just pretends that social justice is her passion.

She'd be just as clueless as Trump is. Another unlicensed driver steering the bus.


She'd be more likely to be impeached than Trump would.

She'd try to give everybody everything and the country would be broke in 6 months.


I reckon she's quite smart
Makes everyone think she's a caring, sharing kind of gal whilst she rakes in millions
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Re: US

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:27 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Oprah following on from this current fool would be a disaster.
Self-serving pile of trash, just pretends that social justice is her passion.

Everyone would get a new car or a trip to Auustralieea
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:31 pm

To be fair she’d be a massive improvement on the current idiot in charge

And she is actually self made millionaire
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Re: US

Postby Booney » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:24 am

Imagine the gun toting Trump supporting lunatics if a black woman was to find her way into office.
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Re: US

Postby HH3 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:I reckon she's quite smart
Makes everyone think she's a caring, sharing kind of gal whilst she rakes in millions


Yeah but who's money's she gonna be using to keep people happy.

You get free health care!
You get free schooling!
You get a tax cut!

Oh wait, who's paying for all this free shit?

She won't keep the masses happy by being a competent President. Her campaign would be run a lot like Bernies was. Socialism doesn't work.
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Re: US

Postby shoe boy » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:13 am

She won't keep the masses happy by being a competent President. Her campaign would be run a lot like Bernies was. Socialism doesn't work.[/quote]

China is doing ok and Canada and Sweden .
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Re: US

Postby Ronnie » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:16 am

Trump confounds me. I wonder about his fitness for office, and the personality traits needed in a President. He is easy to loathe and you wonder what will happen next.

Then I look at all his liberal elite haters still foaming at the mouth that the country dared to elect him in the first place. Maybe he isn't so bad if Hollywood loathe him so much. Hollywood's moral compass is not something to admire.

He does have a few things to point to, like his tax reform, the economy is performing well despite the gloom and doom prophets, and unemployment in the USA continues to decline (although the decline started before Trump took over)

For all the rubbish that goes with it he might actually achieve a few things worth achieving. We can only hope so.
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Re: US

Postby Pistol Pete » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:59 am

Ronnie wrote:Trump confounds me. I wonder about his fitness for office, and the personality traits needed in a President. He is easy to loathe and you wonder what will happen next.

Then I look at all his liberal elite haters still foaming at the mouth that the country dared to elect him in the first place. Maybe he isn't so bad if Hollywood loathe him so much. Hollywood's moral compass is not something to admire.

He does have a few things to point to, like his tax reform, the economy is performing well despite the gloom and doom prophets, and unemployment in the USA continues to decline (although the decline started before Trump took over)

For all the rubbish that goes with it he might actually achieve a few things worth achieving. We can only hope so.
You are on point about the tax reform. However the economy and decreasing unemployment is actually responsible from years of work by the previous admin. However the tax reform a has assisted and the US are economically moving better.

His twitter rants actually interest me. I find them rather interesting to read, it is almost like he just dumps his thoughts into twitter and you and the world get a glimpse of his thought.

Then I remind myself hes president of the US and his decisions can impact the world and then the interest turns to wonder.......I wonder whats next......

Is this good or bad. Not sure really because what do we really know about whats going on in good old US of A? I mean really going on.
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:42 am

Their economy is thriving because of Obama. Won’t know the effect of what trump does for a bit still.

His Twitter rants are always interesting but as a leader it’s a disgrace and dangerous.

The self praise, his continual attack on anyone who doesn’t fit his agenda is very similar to a dictator.

The quicker he is out of office the better.
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Re: US

Postby Q. » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:36 am

HH3 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:I reckon she's quite smart
Makes everyone think she's a caring, sharing kind of gal whilst she rakes in millions


Yeah but who's money's she gonna be using to keep people happy.

You get free health care!
You get free schooling!
You get a tax cut!

Oh wait, who's paying for all this free shit?

She won't keep the masses happy by being a competent President. Her campaign would be run a lot like Bernies was. Socialism doesn't work.
You're way off. She's a neoliberal.
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Re: US

Postby morell » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:05 pm

Yeahhhh Oprah is one of the wealthiest people on the planet, not a traditional tenet of Socialism.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/may/09/oprah-winfrey-neoliberal-capitalist-thinkers


Whilst the idea of Oprah v Trump in the ultimate battle of good and evil seems like fun, this shit isnt a ******* comic book.

The American Progressive movement needs to convince the swathe of white working poor in the rural rust belt what's good for them. Oprah 'aint going to do that.

Sadly, other than Bernie, I don't know who would be viable. Sherrod Brown is great on paper but a bit meh in personality. Cory Booker is OK but is Obama lite. I can't see Ohio voting for Kamala Harris.

Slim pickings.
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Re: US

Postby Grenville » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:51 pm

HH3 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:I reckon she's quite smart
Makes everyone think she's a caring, sharing kind of gal whilst she rakes in millions


Yeah but who's money's she gonna be using to keep people happy.

You get free health care!
You get free schooling!
You get a tax cut!

Oh wait, who's paying for all this free shit?

Thought you were talking about Xenophon or The Greens for a minute there.
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Re: US

Postby morell » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:12 pm

The Greens policies are all financially sustainable, they're just paid for by things no-one wants to give up or be taxed on.
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Re: US

Postby stan » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:08 pm

Looks like a trade war is on its way with Cohens departure.

Not sure how this goes for Australia.
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