Sharksta wrote:
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Thats an excellent quote to keep in the back of the mind
by Dutchy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:02 pm
Sharksta wrote:
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
by Sharksta » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:19 am
Rik E Boy wrote:Sharksta wrote:I’m a survivor. 6 1/2 years down the track. No one had any idea what I was going through at the time - even the psychologist I was seeing. It was the most illogical logical decision fathomable. So distorted had my mindset become. Outwardly I was fully functioning. Internally anxiety and depression and shame at being in an emotionally abuse relationship overwhelmed me.
Often the terms cowardly & selfish are used. I can say that at the time it took all the bravery I could muster & misguidedly thought I was doing the best thing big my family.
Afterwards my life became a chorus of “I wish i knew” & “why didn’t you say anything” type comments. Ironically it opened up a lot of meaningful conversations with family and friends and created a new and lasting depth that can only come with openness and trust.
I spent a couple of weeks in psych hospital, discovered counselling is a lot more effective if you’re honest and vulnerable, & learnt reach out if I was struggling.
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I’m grateful everyday that I survived.
Speak up & don’t go it alone. RIP spud. I wish you’d realised how many people loved you & would have been there for you if you could have reached out one more time.
I was stunned when you told me. But after our mutual friend the words cowardly and selfish certainly weren't used. After our friend I did some reading and came to understand that final decision is only ever made when you have absolutely nothing left, you can't fight any more. So glad you stuck around.
regards,
REB
by Rik E Boy » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:32 pm
Sharksta wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:Sharksta wrote:I’m a survivor. 6 1/2 years down the track. No one had any idea what I was going through at the time - even the psychologist I was seeing. It was the most illogical logical decision fathomable. So distorted had my mindset become. Outwardly I was fully functioning. Internally anxiety and depression and shame at being in an emotionally abuse relationship overwhelmed me.
Often the terms cowardly & selfish are used. I can say that at the time it took all the bravery I could muster & misguidedly thought I was doing the best thing big my family.
Afterwards my life became a chorus of “I wish i knew” & “why didn’t you say anything” type comments. Ironically it opened up a lot of meaningful conversations with family and friends and created a new and lasting depth that can only come with openness and trust.
I spent a couple of weeks in psych hospital, discovered counselling is a lot more effective if you’re honest and vulnerable, & learnt reach out if I was struggling.
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I’m grateful everyday that I survived.
Speak up & don’t go it alone. RIP spud. I wish you’d realised how many people loved you & would have been there for you if you could have reached out one more time.
I was stunned when you told me. But after our mutual friend the words cowardly and selfish certainly weren't used. After our friend I did some reading and came to understand that final decision is only ever made when you have absolutely nothing left, you can't fight any more. So glad you stuck around.
regards,
REB
Plenty more beers to drink & cricket to be watched together [emoji4]
by Wedgie » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:13 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by Booney » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:45 pm
by hollywood7477 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:50 pm
Booney wrote:An open letter, penned by Anita Frawley.
"On Monday, the love of my life was tragically taken from my girls and I. Many have speculated on the cause and lead up to this tragedy.
Danny, as a champion of mental health would want me to continue his legacy and be open with the public of the events leading up to this heartbreak. While the circumstances of the event are unconfirmed and will remain uncertain until the investigations are complete, it was true that Danny’s mental health had deteriorated in recent weeks.
Danny, you were the love of my life and will continue to be until our paths cross again.
As is widely known, Danny had experienced and lived with depression dating back a number of years. But to his credit, he had put up his hand and accepted psychiatric treatment, counselling and medication. He recovered and returned to being the Danny of old.
The road leading up to last Monday’s events began 8 months ago when Danny made the decision to take himself off his prescribed medication.
At this point Danny felt invincible, like the true competitor and proud man that he was; he felt that he had beaten the disease. In fact, he felt bullet proof, which contributed to his decision to remove himself from his support network including his psychiatric care and not continuing to work with his team of mental health professionals.
The reason I am making this public is that I want this to be a reminder to all those grappling with mental health conditions and to those whom have made progress with their wellbeing that you should always seek help from professionals when considering making decisions surrounding your mental health, even when you feel as though you have fully recovered.
Our final memory of Danny is one we will cherish forever, a night spent sitting around our family table, playing board games and laughing on his 56th birthday. He will never be forgotten and will forever be in our hearts. I would like to leave everyone with this quote from Danny, “manning up in the past was to suffer in silence, manning up now is to put your hand up.”
We invite all those who would like to farewell our remarkable man to join us at RSEA Park - St Kilda Football Club, 32/60 Linton St, Moorabbin, VIC, 3189 at 3pm on Wednesday the 18th of September.
We will be wearing a touch of blue in memory of Danny and for the significance of beyondblue, PukaUp and One In Five. To show your condolences, we ask that you please donate to beyondblue in honour of Danny."
Since Monday, there has been a gaping hole in our family which will never be repaired. The girls and I are finding it difficult to accept you are gone and our lives as we knew them will never be the same. We miss you. We will always miss you. Anita xx
by JK » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:54 pm
by Booney » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:04 pm
by Dutchy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:17 pm
by Hondo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:43 pm
by heater31 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:46 pm
Had it described to me recently that everyone gets depression but most don't require professional help. Those that have too big a trough between their highs and lows are the ones that need the help.Dutchy wrote:Geez that is brave by Anita, I have a brother who suffers badly but we finally got him on the meds and it has made the world of difference especially during winter which is his hardest period each year.
I think the other message is we all need to work on our mental health 24/7, you never get fully on top of it.
I listened to the special Triple M Rub edition yesterday, if you liked Danny its worth a listen, it will put a smile on your face. One of his comments was also true which they repeated all day "its OK to not be OK"
by whufc » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:05 pm
by Hondo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:01 pm
whufc wrote:Just a heads up for those promoting meds/etc.
I've been having recent meeting with distinguished medical professionals and in the next five years you will be seeing a massive push away from the prescription of medication for mental health and a much stronger emphasis on physical exercise.
All recent research shows that increased physical activity is the best and most sustainable method for treating mental health. Releasing endorphins is as great prescriptions.
by MW » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:06 pm
by whufc » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:08 pm
Hondo wrote:whufc wrote:Just a heads up for those promoting meds/etc.
I've been having recent meeting with distinguished medical professionals and in the next five years you will be seeing a massive push away from the prescription of medication for mental health and a much stronger emphasis on physical exercise.
All recent research shows that increased physical activity is the best and most sustainable method for treating mental health. Releasing endorphins is as great prescriptions.
I think it can help for sure but if depression could be cured by exercise alone then no athlete would get it and we know this isn’t true.
I used to know someone who exercised copious amounts to combat depression and found it wasn’t enough. They are still here thankfully.
Plus not everyone is in a position to exercise enough to - age, disability etc
Horses for courses and I think medication and exercise will continue to be pieces of the puzzle and different levels for different cases. If there was a magic bullet it would be great to save the tragedy that is mental health problems but I think we have to be careful to not continue the stigma inadvertently. Only unfit people get depressed ... I know you aren’t saying that specifically but it’s a complicated health issue and easy to come up with simple solutions. Meds included..
by Hondo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:24 pm
MW wrote:Big difference between exercising and being an elite athlete.
I can vouch for the mental health benefits of exercising after taking up running many years ago.
by MW » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:34 pm
Hondo wrote:MW wrote:Big difference between exercising and being an elite athlete.
I can vouch for the mental health benefits of exercising after taking up running many years ago.
For sure no argument with you here. I enjoyed running for the same reason actor.
But to say natural endorphins from exercise are as good as meds doesn’t explain to me why full time professional athletes also suffer from depression. How much more exercise can they do?
I’m all for pushing Doctors to think holistically about each patient and not reach straight away for the prescription,
But at the same time telling someone with depression to go to the gym more will not be the right answer in all cases either.
That said I support anything that helps promote more active lifestyles.
by whufc » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:11 pm
Hondo wrote:MW wrote:Big difference between exercising and being an elite athlete.
I can vouch for the mental health benefits of exercising after taking up running many years ago.
For sure no argument with you here. I enjoyed running for the same reason actor.
But to say natural endorphins from exercise are as good as meds doesn’t explain to me why full time professional athletes also suffer from depression. How much more exercise can they do?
I’m all for pushing Doctors to think holistically about each patient and not reach straight away for the prescription,
But at the same time telling someone with depression to go to the gym more will not be the right answer in all cases either.
That said I support anything that helps promote more active lifestyles.
by Hondo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:31 pm
MW wrote:That would be the stresses of being a full time athlete.
Think there is a balance there somewhere.
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