by spell_check » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:23 pm
by am Bays » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:08 pm
by Spargo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:17 pm
am Bays wrote:Port were our B!tches that year in big games, watched the YouTube of the 1982 Escort Cup final last night.
Then watched the last qtr of the 1986 game at Alberton on the Big Replay.
Fair move of Cornesy to put Hall forward at the 20 min mark of the last qtr when we were behind (Woodlands off, Stringer to HB, Hall forward). He kicks the last two of the game. The sealer comes from a 40 m bullet from Carey on his right. Earlier that quarter he's lacing blokes over 30 on his left.
I've said it before and I'll say it again I cant recall a more complete big man in Australian football. Rucking, Marking, hand ball and kicking over 40m. Both sides of the body. The more I watch of Carey the more I appreciate what a freak he was and how blessed the GFC were to have him.
by am Bays » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:05 pm
Spargo wrote:The week before (at Norwood) Glenelg had only won 3 out the first 9 games coming off a 10 goal belting at Richmond. Cornes left Super in the ruck all day at the Parade (and subsequently all year). Season defining move. We only lost 4 of the remaining 17 games.
by JK » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:07 am
Spargo wrote:am Bays wrote:Port were our B!tches that year in big games, watched the YouTube of the 1982 Escort Cup final last night.
Then watched the last qtr of the 1986 game at Alberton on the Big Replay.
Fair move of Cornesy to put Hall forward at the 20 min mark of the last qtr when we were behind (Woodlands off, Stringer to HB, Hall forward). He kicks the last two of the game. The sealer comes from a 40 m bullet from Carey on his right. Earlier that quarter he's lacing blokes over 30 on his left.
I've said it before and I'll say it again I cant recall a more complete big man in Australian football. Rucking, Marking, hand ball and kicking over 40m. Both sides of the body. The more I watch of Carey the more I appreciate what a freak he was and how blessed the GFC were to have him.
The week before (at Norwood) Glenelg had only won 3 out the first 9 games coming off a 10 goal belting at Richmond. Cornes left Super in the ruck all day at the Parade (and subsequently all year). Season defining move. We only lost 4 of the remaining 17 games.
by am Bays » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:25 am
by JK » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:55 am
am Bays wrote:But you won the only game that really matters that year JK.
Reality for us was our GF was the week before. Coming from 4th spot we'd beaten Centrals, then Sturt (farewell Jack) and then spent all our chips in the rain with-holding Port in a belter at Footy park
Norwood had the flag won that night
by Magellan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:34 am
JK wrote: One of our issues under Balme around that time was rather than pinpointing forwards, we’d just bomb it long.
by Magellan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:50 am
JK wrote:As a staunch one eyed Norwood kid, I never appreciated Super enough. He was indeed a complete champion.
by JK » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:13 pm
Magellan wrote:JK wrote: One of our issues under Balme around that time was rather than pinpointing forwards, we’d just bomb it long.
Interested in your view, JK - my recollection of Norwood in the mid to late-80s was also a lack of a strong, reliable full-forward. It seemed like the missing piece of the puzzle, because Balme had a pretty good side in other departments during those years. Once Rocky Roberts retired, there never really seemed to be anyone who filled the void, save for Mark Ducker who wasn't really a key position player (bit a quality player nonetheless, despite frequent injury). Also recall James Weeding up forward in around 1989-90, but I'm not sure he did a lot of damage.
by Magellan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:20 pm
JK wrote:As good as all our opponents were, with a little luck I still think we could have seriously challenged in 87’ and 90’, bit we didn’t have the winning mentality tonget us through in big games as those opponents did and imho we weren’t hard enough, and that found us out in big finals against the other 3.
by JK » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:32 pm
Magellan wrote:JK wrote:As good as all our opponents were, with a little luck I still think we could have seriously challenged in 87’ and 90’, bit we didn’t have the winning mentality tonget us through in big games as those opponents did and imho we weren’t hard enough, and that found us out in big finals against the other 3.
I couldn't say the same for the Bays, but I felt we had Norwood's measure throughout 1987, although the second half of the second semi did have me worried as the rain started to come down and Norwood began to give it a real shake. For most of that year I thought we'd play off against Norwood in the Grand Final.
As for Doug Smart, there's a player I'm not sad that we lost. Could be absolutely brilliant, but never when it really mattered, and was woefully inconsistent.
by Magellan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:06 pm
JK wrote:You're probably right about 87', but we flew home in that 2nd Semi and when Payne kicked our 4th in a row in the last quarter to bring the margin back to single figures, we looked to have you on toast. Unfortunately the goal was disallowed after one of the men in white paid a free kick against Rowe for shepherding. That seemed to take the wind out of our sails (mental fragility again) and despite kicking into a gale, North locked the ball down for what seemed like 15-20 minutes of scrappy scoreless play, kicked a goal and it was game over. We had a massive opportunity but it's funny in a way because all most people seem to remember from that day was the VFL Prelim. Dont think I can recall a game where so many spectators had the tranny to the ear riding every play across the border hoping the Dees could keep the fairytale alive.
by am Bays » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:34 pm
by am Bays » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:37 pm
by Magellan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:38 pm
am Bays wrote:If there's one silver lining to this whole COVID19 malarkey is that it's made me give SAFootballArchive a good smashing on YouTube.
am Bays wrote:Has footy changed? Yep.
Has it improved? yep in some aspects
by robranisgod » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:25 pm
Magellan wrote:JK wrote:You're probably right about 87', but we flew home in that 2nd Semi and when Payne kicked our 4th in a row in the last quarter to bring the margin back to single figures, we looked to have you on toast. Unfortunately the goal was disallowed after one of the men in white paid a free kick against Rowe for shepherding. That seemed to take the wind out of our sails (mental fragility again) and despite kicking into a gale, North locked the ball down for what seemed like 15-20 minutes of scrappy scoreless play, kicked a goal and it was game over. We had a massive opportunity but it's funny in a way because all most people seem to remember from that day was the VFL Prelim. Dont think I can recall a game where so many spectators had the tranny to the ear riding every play across the border hoping the Dees could keep the fairytale alive.
Great summary JK, pretty much as I recalled it. Still trying to find a copy of that second semi.
We didn't have a tranny* with us that day, and we were transfixed watching the game, and I recall hearing the VFL result from others as we walked out of the ground, incredulous that Melbourne lost after the siren.
by am Bays » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:30 pm
Magellan wrote:am Bays wrote:If there's one silver lining to this whole COVID19 malarkey is that it's made me give SAFootballArchive a good smashing on YouTube.
Yes indeed, what a great resource/distraction.am Bays wrote:Has footy changed? Yep.
Has it improved? yep in some aspects
In what ways would you say it's changed for the better? FWIW, I'm of the opposite view.
by am Bays » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:35 pm
by robranisgod » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:22 pm
am Bays wrote:I think great footy sides aren't great necessarily because of their stars they're great because of their bottom tier players.
I used to say the 21st player picked at Centrals (2000-2010) would make every other league side you couldn't say that about the 21st player at the other eight clubs.
The same with the 20th player at Port back in the day and even the Hawthorn teams of 2012-2015 and the late 80s.
Great teams are defined by their depth and their system of play that is reliable in finals footy.
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