The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

[sib]

Has anyone from either club actually indicated that they won't have a 2nd tier team in the SANFL? Or is it solely media speculation that are looking for a story and keep their jobs?

Both have been asked and gave a straight bat answer.

KT "I suspect when all the dust settles that there will be a significant amount of change to our industry and the way we go about things. We have to expect that.

“I have no idea what that change looks like at this stage. I hope the Magpies are part of it. We’ll be doing everything we can to make sure that occurs but we should be expecting change. Over the next few months that will play out… that’s just the reality we need to get our heads around.”

Andrew Fagan comments are linked to an Adelaide Now article I cant access.

Crows want to stay in SANFL

"The Adelaide Crows want to remain in the SANFL competition, but chief executive Andrew Fagan has conceded the decision may not remain with the club"

Why is it not the Crows decision? Surely the AFL are not trying to rule everything? No doubt Port with their history will stand up and fight this if it its true. Who would have thought? They could move to Alberton Oval and play there as thats a boutique gound. Could always bring in a Tassie Team ?

The AFL will cut list sizes next season. Talk is 35 players Right now they can have 44. 35 Players would not be enough to entertain a second team. Port could stay however but as a separate entity like they used to be and not the one club. They would have to have their zones back though so they can recruit a squad.

[Dutchy]

The talk is of 35 in 3 years time, there would have to be a gradual decline, can't do it all in one season.

[UK Fan]

The talk is of 35 in 3 years time, there would have to be a gradual decline, can't do it all in one season.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/390818/how- ... ist-sizes-

The AFL is set to change in many ways because of the coronavirus pandemic, including the increasing likelihood of smaller playing lists in 2021


THE AFL seems increasingly likely to order the slashing of playing lists, with 35 firming as the ideal number.

[Dutchy]

in 3 years time yes, they are not going to drop 16 off their lists at the end of 2020.

[whufc]

The talk is of 35 in 3 years time, there would have to be a gradual decline, can't do it all in one season.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/390818/how- ... ist-sizes-

The AFL is set to change in many ways because of the coronavirus pandemic, including the increasing likelihood of smaller playing lists in 2021


THE AFL seems increasingly likely to order the slashing of playing lists, with 35 firming as the ideal number.

Im not sure this as good a thing for the SANFL as it appears.

Whatever rules are put in place are going to be extremly in favour of AFL club as an example rather than have a mid year draft AFL clubs will probably be able to replace long term injured with new players from the SANFL at any point in the season.

Whatever way this goes this is going to be more in favour of the AFL than the SANFL.

The AFL clubs will get the best out of both worlds.

[UK Fan]

in 3 years time yes, they are not going to drop 16 off their lists at the end of 2020.

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/dangerfi ... s-c-957596

Unless I’m reading it wrong the article and media reports(Damien Barrett)State yes they are cutting lists drastically.

Salary cap Needs to be slashed next year.

It’s unbelievable I know but there are many articles to reference the list cuts.

Approx 200 Current afl footballers won’t be on a list next year.

How many kids are going to be drafted This year ?? Usually you need to open up a minimum of 3 spots Every year, I’m going to assume that will be reduced.

Many questions still unanswered at this stage

[UK Fan]

The talk is of 35 in 3 years time, there would have to be a gradual decline, can't do it all in one season.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/390818/how- ... ist-sizes-

The AFL is set to change in many ways because of the coronavirus pandemic, including the increasing likelihood of smaller playing lists in 2021


THE AFL seems increasingly likely to order the slashing of playing lists, with 35 firming as the ideal number.

Im not sure this as good a thing for the SANFL as it appears.

Whatever rules are put in place are going to be extremly in favour of AFL club as an example rather than have a mid year draft AFL clubs will probably be able to replace long term injured with new players from the SANFL at any point in the season.

Whatever way this goes this is going to be more in favour of the AFL than the SANFL.

The AFL clubs will get the best out of both worlds.

There will be a mid season draft under the new proposed structure which isn’t ideal but we have that now.

As you say there will be greater emphasis on using the draft with smaller lists but this will be offset by the clubs reduced salary cap.


I didn’t think any player transfers could occur after June 30th. But I’m not sure about afl contracts.

Either way the scum are looking less likely to be in our comp next year. The sANFL is preparing for an 8 team comp next year And afl players when not playing afl will be farmed back out to sanfl clubs.

They are the positives to take out of it at this stage.

[LMA]

The talk is of 35 in 3 years time, there would have to be a gradual decline, can't do it all in one season.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/390818/how- ... ist-sizes-

The AFL is set to change in many ways because of the coronavirus pandemic, including the increasing likelihood of smaller playing lists in 2021


THE AFL seems increasingly likely to order the slashing of playing lists, with 35 firming as the ideal number.

Im not sure this as good a thing for the SANFL as it appears.

Whatever rules are put in place are going to be extremly in favour of AFL club as an example rather than have a mid year draft AFL clubs will probably be able to replace long term injured with new players from the SANFL at any point in the season.

Whatever way this goes this is going to be more in favour of the AFL than the SANFL.

The AFL clubs will get the best out of both worlds.

There will be a mid season draft under the new proposed structure which isn’t ideal but we have that now.

As you say there will be greater emphasis on using the draft with smaller lists but this will be offset by the clubs reduced salary cap.


I didn’t think any player transfers could occur after June 30th. But I’m not sure about afl contracts.

Either way the scum are looking less likely to be in our comp next year. The sANFL is preparing for an 8 team comp next year And afl players when not playing afl will be farmed back out to sanfl clubs.

They are the positives to take out of it at this stage.

Less likely now, you losing confidence

[LMA]

in 3 years time yes, they are not going to drop 16 off their lists at the end of 2020.

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/dangerfi ... s-c-957596

Unless I’m reading it wrong the article and media reports(Damien Barrett)State yes they are cutting lists drastically.

Salary cap Needs to be slashed next year.

It’s unbelievable I know but there are many articles to reference the list cuts.

Approx 200 Current afl footballers won’t be on a list next year.

How many kids are going to be drafted This year ?? Usually you need to open up a minimum of 3 spots Every year, I’m going to assume that will be reduced.

Many questions still unanswered at this stage

Got any recent articles, these are weeks and 'days' old. Plenty has been discussed since then including reducing lists gradually, feel free to post these in 2 and a half weeks time.

[Dutchy]

So when you break it all down the Crows decision to join the SANFL in 2013 has killed the Magpies. Someone, somewhere will enjoy that.

[sib]

in 3 years time yes, they are not going to drop 16 off their lists at the end of 2020.

Where did you pull 16 from. Current lists are 44. Most clubs have 38+6 rookies. Some 40 and 4.

So its only 5 players out plus a few retirees

[Dutchy]

in 3 years time yes, they are not going to drop 16 off their lists at the end of 2020.

Where did you pull 16 from. Current lists are 44. Most clubs have 38+6 rookies. Some 40 and 4.

So its only 5 players out plus a few retirees

Incorrect, some clubs have up to 47, with Cat B rookies. To get down to 35 they will need to delist down to 32 as it is mandatory to draft at least 3 players.

AFLPA won't like this big a cut, so I suspect it will be reduced down over a 3 year period, even if it means some cuts to salaries on the top end.

[am Bays]

Is it 35 main lists or 35 total (inc rookies) I’ve seen the number of 35 but never any official source that confirms they’re talking about the main of full list.

[Look Good In Leather]

So when you break it all down the Crows decision to join the SANFL in 2013 has killed the Magpies. Someone, somewhere will enjoy that.

No, Port Adelaide's decision to turn the Magpies into a reserves team has killed the Magpies. They were only copying the Crows and already had a vehicle to do it.

[Dutchy]

So when you break it all down the Crows decision to join the SANFL in 2013 has killed the Magpies. Someone, somewhere will enjoy that.

No, Port Adelaide's decision to turn the Magpies into a reserves team has killed the Magpies. They were only copying the Crows and already had a vehicle to do it.

And they wouldn't have done it unless Adelaide did it, their preference was to stay as they were.

[JK]

So when you break it all down the Crows decision to join the SANFL in 2013 has killed the Magpies. Someone, somewhere will enjoy that.

No, Port Adelaide's decision to turn the Magpies into a reserves team has killed the Magpies. They were only copying the Crows and already had a vehicle to do it.

And they wouldn't have done it unless Adelaide did it, their preference was to stay as they were.

Not sure about that mate

[daysofourlives]

So when you break it all down the Crows decision to join the SANFL in 2013 has killed the Magpies. Someone, somewhere will enjoy that.

No, Port Adelaide's decision to turn the Magpies into a reserves team has killed the Magpies. They were only copying the Crows and already had a vehicle to do it.

And they wouldn't have done it unless Adelaide did it, their preference was to stay as they were.

Not sure about that mate

Of course they were happy to stay how it was, they were slowly moving all their Power listed players to the Magpies anyway IIRC

[Brett]

That would have been happening behind the scenes.They wouldnt do it upfront lol

[Dutchy]

Not sure about that mate

They were spewing that they lost their zone, junior teams and academies. This article shows that when Crows were given OK they still wanted to be stand alone.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 10b1cf02cd

By the terms set by the commission, Port Adelaide must be offered exactly the same terms for any Power reserves team in the SANFL. But this requires Port to remove the Magpies under-age teams from the SANFL and concede recruiting zones in the city and Eyre Peninsula.

Power CEO Keith Thomas said his club would keep the full-scale Magpies next year and seek a change in policy from the commission for 2015.

“I wish to advise that our position hasn’t changed. We are preparing to compete in the SANFL competition in season 2014, under the same conditions as currently exist," he said.

[JK]

Article does nothing but confirm what they said publicly. Imho (with some homework done), they wanted their own reserves side (as you’d expect all clubs would).