Hazydog wrote:Certainly a fair bit to pan out yet... can someone like Jeff Andrews afford to come back and operate off job keeper...I fear not. Or Bastinac.. Dunno..will umps be prepared to get abused simply for the love of it? I’m not convinced all parties can come together to get a season of sorts up and running. Hope I’m wrong.. and I’ll still maintain an interest even if second string teams compete.. But a lot of hurdles need to be cleared yet..
Jeff is already back & has completed his quarantine period. He ain't going anywhere. And we don't have any players that won't want to play due to no payments.
Music to my ears! In that case what are we waiting for?
Players win touches, Teams win matches, Clubs win Premierships.
Believe top up players are on one year contract that allows them to go back to their original lower grade country team or a lower grade local team
Given effectively their contacts in terms of League football are now effectively defunct I will be very surprised if the SANFL does not give any of player requesting either a clearance to their League club of origin (actually previously played for) or another League team even perhaps a one year permit clearance to another League club with provision to return as Crows/Power Top Up Players if/when they rejoin the SANFL.
Hazydog wrote:Certainly a fair bit to pan out yet... can someone like Jeff Andrews afford to come back and operate off job keeper...I fear not. Or Bastinac.. Dunno..will umps be prepared to get abused simply for the love of it? I’m not convinced all parties can come together to get a season of sorts up and running. Hope I’m wrong.. and I’ll still maintain an interest even if second string teams compete.. But a lot of hurdles need to be cleared yet..
Jeff is already back & has completed his quarantine period. He ain't going anywhere. And we don't have any players that won't want to play due to no payments.
oldfella wrote:An interesting question from this is.
What happens to the Crows/Power Top Up Players.
Bit of a guess based on some minor knowledge.
Believe top up players are on one year contract that allows them to go back to their original lower grade country team or a lower grade local team
Given effectively their contacts in terms of League football are now effectively defunct I will be very surprised if the SANFL does not give any of player requesting either a clearance to their League club of origin (actually previously played for) or another League team even perhaps a one year permit clearance to another League club with provision to return as Crows/Power Top Up Players if/when they rejoin the SANFL.
This morning on SEN , Mark Stone mentioned about 30 Glenelg players are on JobKeeper. I find it hard to believe that 30 players main job was SANFL players. Have they pulled a shonky here. I'm sure not only club.
goddy11 wrote:This morning on SEN , Mark Stone mentioned about 30 Glenelg players are on JobKeeper. I find it hard to believe that 30 players main job was SANFL players. Have they pulled a shonky here. I'm sure not only club.
goddy11 wrote:This morning on SEN , Mark Stone mentioned about 30 Glenelg players are on JobKeeper. I find it hard to believe that 30 players main job was SANFL players. Have they pulled a shonky here. I'm sure not only club.
goddy11 wrote:This morning on SEN , Mark Stone mentioned about 30 Glenelg players are on JobKeeper. I find it hard to believe that 30 players main job was SANFL players. Have they pulled a shonky here. I'm sure not only club.
goddy11 wrote:This morning on SEN , Mark Stone mentioned about 30 Glenelg players are on JobKeeper. I find it hard to believe that 30 players main job was SANFL players. Have they pulled a shonky here. I'm sure not only club.
They're eligible, you just have to be employed/paid by someone any amount and to have been on the books for the last 12 months. Noone's pulling a shonky. For eg my son has a full time casual job at SAJC but didn't get anything from them but gets $1500pf gross from Adeladie Oval despite not having done a days work there in 4 months because he's been employed there casually more than 12 months occasionally doing 3-5 hours a week. I get nothing despite being employed almost full time casual for the last 2.5 years but if I'd kept my job at Adelaide Oval working once every 6 months I would have got the full $1500pf. Its ridiculous. Add to that if I'd stayed with the Entertainment Centre I wouldn't have got a cent either (government owned).
Don't blame the people that get it or the businesses using it, blame the ridiculous implemenation of it by an incompetent government. A great idea but an absolute dog's breakfast as far as eligibility goes.
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
goddy11 wrote:This morning on SEN , Mark Stone mentioned about 30 Glenelg players are on JobKeeper. I find it hard to believe that 30 players main job was SANFL players. Have they pulled a shonky here. I'm sure not only club.
Wedgie wrote:They're eligible, you just have to be employed/paid by someone any amount and to have been on the books for the last 12 months. Noone's pulling a shonky. For eg my son has a full time casual job at SAJC but didn't get anything from them but gets $1500pf gross from Adeladie Oval despite not having done a days work there in 4 months because he's been employed there casually more than 12 months occasionally doing 3-5 hours a week. I get nothing despite being employed almost full time casual for the last 2.5 years but if I'd kept my job at Adelaide Oval working once every 6 months I would have got the full $1500pf. Its ridiculous. Add to that if I'd stayed with the Entertainment Centre I wouldn't have got a cent either (government owned).
Don't blame the people that get it or the businesses using it, blame the ridiculous implemenation of it by an incompetent government. A great idea but an absolute dog's breakfast as far as eligibility goes.
That's incorrect Wedgie, if you have a permanent (full time or part time) job with one employer you can't get the Jobkeeper for your casual Job regardless. Check the ATO website.
Wedgie wrote:They're eligible, you just have to be employed/paid by someone any amount and to have been on the books for the last 12 months. Noone's pulling a shonky. For eg my son has a full time casual job at SAJC but didn't get anything from them but gets $1500pf gross from Adeladie Oval despite not having done a days work there in 4 months because he's been employed there casually more than 12 months occasionally doing 3-5 hours a week. I get nothing despite being employed almost full time casual for the last 2.5 years but if I'd kept my job at Adelaide Oval working once every 6 months I would have got the full $1500pf. Its ridiculous. Add to that if I'd stayed with the Entertainment Centre I wouldn't have got a cent either (government owned).
Don't blame the people that get it or the businesses using it, blame the ridiculous implemenation of it by an incompetent government. A great idea but an absolute dog's breakfast as far as eligibility goes.
That's incorrect Wedgie, if you have a permanent (full time or part time) job with one employer you can't get the Jobkeeper for your casual Job regardless. Check the ATO website.
Of course you can't get it if you are still working and getting paid from a permanent job with someone else, that's a no brainer, I wasn't referring to people in that situation. I was referring to the comment that it has to be your "main job" which it doesn't as per the example I provided.
A lot of SANFL footballers don't have full time jobs that would still be operational, they might go to Uni or work casually in hospitality, as groundskeepers, as PTs, as tradies, marketing and various jobs other jobs for sponsors that aren't permanent.
Football clubs are part time casual employers of footballers in the SANFL, they're perfectly entitled to pay Job Keeper's payment like any other employer that is no longer paying their part time casual employees because of a 30/50% downturn in business.
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
Wedgie wrote:They're eligible, you just have to be employed/paid by someone any amount and to have been on the books for the last 12 months. Noone's pulling a shonky. For eg my son has a full time casual job at SAJC but didn't get anything from them but gets $1500pf gross from Adeladie Oval despite not having done a days work there in 4 months because he's been employed there casually more than 12 months occasionally doing 3-5 hours a week. I get nothing despite being employed almost full time casual for the last 2.5 years but if I'd kept my job at Adelaide Oval working once every 6 months I would have got the full $1500pf. Its ridiculous. Add to that if I'd stayed with the Entertainment Centre I wouldn't have got a cent either (government owned).
Don't blame the people that get it or the businesses using it, blame the ridiculous implemenation of it by an incompetent government. A great idea but an absolute dog's breakfast as far as eligibility goes.
That's incorrect Wedgie, if you have a permanent (full time or part time) job with one employer you can't get the Jobkeeper for your casual Job regardless. Check the ATO website.
Of course you can't get it if you are still working and getting paid from a permanent job with someone else, that's a no brainer, I wasn't referring to people in that situation. I was referring to the comment that it has to be your "main job" which it doesn't as per the example I provided.
A lot of SANFL footballers don't have full time jobs that would still be operational, they might go to Uni or work casually in hospitality, as groundskeepers, as PTs, as tradies, marketing and various jobs other jobs for sponsors that aren't permanent.
Football clubs are part time casual employers of footballers in the SANFL, they're perfectly entitled to pay Job Keeper's payment like any other employer that is no longer paying their part time casual employees because of a 30/50% downturn in business.
Wedgie, what you say in the last paragraph is basically what I heard on the news this morning. Full time casuals that have only been employed 11 months are ineligible yet someone with only 3-4h rs per week get the $1500/fn. Some unfairness here. Good on your son.
What did surprise me was that Glenelg had 30 players in this category.
Just doing my poor maths 750/week × 30players × 26weeks = $585,000 I am not sure what the SANFL salary cap was $360k /per year ? Winner winner
Wedgie wrote:They're eligible, you just have to be employed/paid by someone any amount and to have been on the books for the last 12 months. Noone's pulling a shonky. For eg my son has a full time casual job at SAJC but didn't get anything from them but gets $1500pf gross from Adeladie Oval despite not having done a days work there in 4 months because he's been employed there casually more than 12 months occasionally doing 3-5 hours a week. I get nothing despite being employed almost full time casual for the last 2.5 years but if I'd kept my job at Adelaide Oval working once every 6 months I would have got the full $1500pf. Its ridiculous. Add to that if I'd stayed with the Entertainment Centre I wouldn't have got a cent either (government owned).
Don't blame the people that get it or the businesses using it, blame the ridiculous implemenation of it by an incompetent government. A great idea but an absolute dog's breakfast as far as eligibility goes.
That's incorrect Wedgie, if you have a permanent (full time or part time) job with one employer you can't get the Jobkeeper for your casual Job regardless. Check the ATO website.
Of course you can't get it if you are still working and getting paid from a permanent job with someone else, that's a no brainer, I wasn't referring to people in that situation. I was referring to the comment that it has to be your "main job" which it doesn't as per the example I provided.
A lot of SANFL footballers don't have full time jobs that would still be operational, they might go to Uni or work casually in hospitality, as groundskeepers, as PTs, as tradies, marketing and various jobs other jobs for sponsors that aren't permanent.
Football clubs are part time casual employers of footballers in the SANFL, they're perfectly entitled to pay Job Keeper's payment like any other employer that is no longer paying their part time casual employees because of a 30/50% downturn in business.
