"Off with their genders: State parliament goes gender-neutral Gender-specific terms including he, she, him and her will be removed from state parliament, sparking outrage and claims of “wokeism” from some MPs."
gadj1976 wrote:Genders being removed from State Parliament.
FFS what are we becoming?
"Off with their genders: State parliament goes gender-neutral Gender-specific terms including he, she, him and her will be removed from state parliament, sparking outrage and claims of “wokeism” from some MPs."
Yep.....
I like to consider myself as fairly progressive but i just don't get, understand and agree with the whole gender-neutral topic.........absolutely baffles me.
gadj1976 wrote:Genders being removed from State Parliament.
FFS what are we becoming?
"Off with their genders: State parliament goes gender-neutral Gender-specific terms including he, she, him and her will be removed from state parliament, sparking outrage and claims of “wokeism” from some MPs."
Yep.....
I like to consider myself as fairly progressive but i just don't get, understand and agree with the whole gender-neutral topic.........absolutely baffles me.
Likewise, I deal with the concept of change in my daily work life and the concept behind change generally is that you move from one state/position to another for the benefit of 'x'. I don't see benefit in this, at all. Other to appease the minority.
gadj1976 wrote:Genders being removed from State Parliament.
FFS what are we becoming?
"Off with their genders: State parliament goes gender-neutral Gender-specific terms including he, she, him and her will be removed from state parliament, sparking outrage and claims of “wokeism” from some MPs."
Yep.....
I like to consider myself as fairly progressive but i just don't get, understand and agree with the whole gender-neutral topic.........absolutely baffles me.
Likewise, I deal with the concept of change in my daily work life and the concept behind change generally is that you move from one state/position to another for the benefit of 'x'. I don't see benefit in this, at all. Other to appease the minority.
Yeah i have no problem with one who is born as a male feeling like they believe they are a female...i dont get it, i dont understand it but not my issue.
What i do have an issue with is that because of such a small minority who are defying very clear science that all of a sudden male/female, him/her becomes a dirty word.
Also being a sport lover i cant possibly agree with born males just jumping across and breaking all records etc nevermind the safety issues.
To me the key question is when did they start the transition before or after the onset of puberty. if they started administering of female hormones before puberty I dont have a real problem based on developmental physiology.
however if it is after the onset of puberty, those who prosecute the case for trans "Women" competing in elite female sports categories obviously have no issues with taking pubertal females and pumping them with testosterone then allowing them to compete in international sporting competitions.
You are basically allowing those athletes to get the developmental benefits of the skeletal size and muscle mass of being male to then compete against women who a have an X and Y chromosome, you know real women as Ricky Gervais says - those old fashioned ones, the ones with wombs...
That is exactly what the East Germans did in the 70s and 80s (we know because they documented it). The Soviets did it too, most likely, but they didn't document it.... The Yanks just gave them the good shit and paid off the sports officials (watch the 30;30 documentary 9.79)
I acknowledge they are taking hormone replacement therapies which make them less like males and and more like females but it doesn't take away the increased muscle mass and size compared to XX females. They are unfortunately in some sort of twilight zone deserving of their own competitive classification.
Yes it can be considered unfair but guess what the first rule of elite sport - it's unfair....
I dont have a problem with them playing community with the gender they identify with and I also dont have a problem is their is documented verifiable evidence of them transitioning before the onset of puberty.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
am Bays wrote:To me the key question is when did they start the transition before or after the onset of puberty. if they started administering of female hormones before puberty I dont have a real problem based on developmental physiology.
however if it is after the onset of puberty, those who prosecute the case for trans "Women" competing in elite female sports categories obviously have no issues with taking pubertal females and pumping them with testosterone then allowing them to compete in international sporting competitions.
You are basically allowing those athletes to get the developmental benefits of the skeletal size and muscle mass of being male to then compete against women who a have an X and Y chromosome, you know real women as Ricky Gervais says - those old fashioned ones, the ones with wombs...
That is exactly what the East Germans did in the 70s and 80s (we know because they documented it). The Soviets did it too, most likely, but they didn't document it.... The Yanks just gave them the good shit and paid off the sports officials (watch the 30;30 documentary 9.79)
I acknowledge they are taking hormone replacement therapies which make them less like males and and more like females but it doesn't take away the increased muscle mass and size compared to XX females. They are unfortunately in some sort of twilight zone deserving of their own competitive classification.
Yes it can be considered unfair but guess what the first rule of elite sport - it's unfair....
I dont have a problem with them playing community with the gender they identify with and I also dont have a problem is their is documented verifiable evidence of them transitioning before the onset of puberty.
BTW how good is the 30:30 series. My favorite binge sport doco series without doubt.
Wedgie wrote:Hooray, West Coast and Collingwood got allocated the change room we get to witness warm ups, celebrations, etc on Sunday with our Locker Room tickets.
Wouldn’t be too many Coaster fans you'd think?
Whoops, there goes another year. Whoops, there goes another pint of beer.
Wedgie wrote:Hooray, West Coast and Collingwood got allocated the change room we get to witness warm ups, celebrations, etc on Sunday with our Locker Room tickets.
Wouldn’t be too many Coaster fans you'd think?
I can't even moon them as it's 1 way glass! Well I could but I'd look pretty silly.
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
Wedgie wrote:Hooray, West Coast and Collingwood got allocated the change room we get to witness warm ups, celebrations, etc on Sunday with our Locker Room tickets.
Wouldn’t be too many Coaster fans you'd think?
I can't even moon them as it's 1 way glass! Well I could but I'd look pretty silly.
I did the locker room in Rd 1 and one of the bar staff told us a Port chick flashed the one way glass last season
Whoops, there goes another year. Whoops, there goes another pint of beer.