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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby tigerpie » Wed Jun 04, 2025 9:13 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
dedja wrote:
tigerpie wrote:A few big rock concerts could help massively.


The SMA had to build a hotel at Adelaide Oval to help keep everything profitable, even concerts here hadn’t done enough.


No international bands are playing in Hobart

So there's revenue to chase then.
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Wed Jun 04, 2025 9:24 pm

tigerpie wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
dedja wrote:
tigerpie wrote:A few big rock concerts could help massively.


The SMA had to build a hotel at Adelaide Oval to help keep everything profitable, even concerts here hadn’t done enough.


No international bands are playing in Hobart

So there's revenue to chase then.


Have you been to Tasmania much?
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 04, 2025 9:48 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Have you been to Tasmania much?


It's the Riverland on steroids
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Wed Jun 04, 2025 10:09 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Have you been to Tasmania much?


It's the Riverland on steroids


Shit place for a holiday, great place to take your Sister.
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Wed Jun 04, 2025 10:26 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Have you been to Tasmania much?


It's the Riverland on steroids


Shit place for a holiday, great place to take your Sister.


Jokes aside, I think it’s the best city to visit in Australia. Hobart is a brilliant joint that’s completely unlike anything else on the mainland. It 100% feels like you’re visiting another country (NZ South Island). South Australians have a big chip on their shoulder, however it’s got nothing on the Taswegians….
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jun 05, 2025 8:58 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Have you been to Tasmania much?


It's the Riverland on steroids


Shit place for a holiday, great place to take your Sister.


She never told me about you two?
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jun 05, 2025 9:03 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Jokes aside, I think it’s the best city to visit in Australia. Hobart is a brilliant joint that’s completely unlike anything else on the mainland. It 100% feels like you’re visiting another country (NZ South Island). South Australians have a big chip on their shoulder, however it’s got nothing on the Taswegians….


Totally agree, I done 3 weeks there and loved it, although I've never been to England it reminded me of the British TV shows that I've watched where everything is green and sub-divided.

It was a fair while ago though, it was when you could tour the Cadbury factory and eat the non-conformant chocolates during the tour then buy big packs of them for $2 at the end of the tour.

Every town had about 6 pubs per thousand people and everyone seemed to go their for dinner each night, I will return again.
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Jun 05, 2025 9:25 am

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LaughingKookaburra wrote:Jokes aside, I think it’s the best city to visit in Australia. Hobart is a brilliant joint that’s completely unlike anything else on the mainland. It 100% feels like you’re visiting another country (NZ South Island). South Australians have a big chip on their shoulder, however it’s got nothing on the Taswegians….


Totally agree, I done 3 weeks there and loved it, although I've never been to England it reminded me of the British TV shows that I've watched where everything is green and sub-divided.

It was a fair while ago though, it was when you could tour the Cadbury factory and eat the non-conformant chocolates during the tour then buy big packs of them for $2 at the end of the tour.

Every town had about 6 pubs per thousand people and everyone seemed to go their for dinner each night, I will return again.

So I can just keep watching Heartbeat and The Bill and will feel I'm in tassie :lol:
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:26 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Jokes aside, I think it’s the best city to visit in Australia. Hobart is a brilliant joint that’s completely unlike anything else on the mainland. It 100% feels like you’re visiting another country (NZ South Island). South Australians have a big chip on their shoulder, however it’s got nothing on the Taswegians….


Totally agree, I done 3 weeks there and loved it, although I've never been to England it reminded me of the British TV shows that I've watched where everything is green and sub-divided.

It was a fair while ago though, it was when you could tour the Cadbury factory and eat the non-conformant chocolates during the tour then buy big packs of them for $2 at the end of the tour.

Every town had about 6 pubs per thousand people and everyone seemed to go their for dinner each night, I will return again.

So I can just keep watching Heartbeat and The Bill and will feel I'm in tassie :lol:


Absolutely, I'm sure you've seen a few movies with the map of Tassie on them too.
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby dedja » Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:18 pm

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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby tigerpie » Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:48 pm

No more devils it seems.
Looking back it was rushed by Gil and not enough thought went into how to finance the stadium.

It's never going to work.
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby RB » Thu Jun 05, 2025 5:19 pm

tigerpie wrote:Nobody wants to sit out in sideways rain and hail when it's -1.
No crowds no devils.
So a 23000 seat stadium with a roof might guarantee a decent return rather than 5000 a week maybe


When it's raining and hailing in Hobart, it's not -1.

And when it's -1, it's not raining and hailing.

And rain and cold are unlikely to deter many Tasmanians from heading along.

Given the support for a team there, I would expect strong crowds.

I've got no idea how you've pulled out 5,000 a week - if the Kangaroos can consistently get 6 or 7,000 to their games, I think a local team will easily average double that.

Then, factor in that not every match will be at night, and some will be early in the season with relatively warm weather, and I think the intention's for only 7 or 8 games to be played in Hobart per season (with the remainder in Launceston).

You're looking at [insert current cost estimate, allowing for the usual blowouts] for, at best, a very marginal increase in crowds, if that. (I concede that the increase in revenue - given the corporate boxes likely to be placed in the proposed stadium - is probably better than marginal.)

Even considering all that, I'm not necessarily opposed to the new stadium. But the idea that it's a necessity to have a shiny new venue with a roof in one of Australia's driest capitals - for a winter sport no less - is absurd, in my view.

If I were a Tasmanian taxpayer, I wouldn't be keen on stumping up for that (or the state borrowing money to do so).
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby MW » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:21 pm

Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby cracka » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:36 pm

MW wrote:Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.

Because that makes perfect sense & that's not what the AFL or politicians are about
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby amber_fluid » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:38 pm

MW wrote:Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.


Coz that would be too easy and common sense
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Jim05 » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:43 pm

MW wrote:Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.
Because their grounds are shit and the AFL needs them to be profitable from the get go. The AFL will be propping them up for years so obviously want to ensure that the amount is as little as possible
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby amber_fluid » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:47 pm

Jim05 wrote:
MW wrote:Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.
Because their grounds are shit and the AFL needs them to be profitable from the get go. The AFL will be propping them up for years so obviously want to ensure that the amount is as little as possible


How is it any different to GWS or Gold Coast when they started?
Those grounds were worse.

It reminds me of the young generation today wanting great jobs, new cars, new houses in good areas, etc etc

Just get in and get started with what you have or can afford currently
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:54 pm

MW wrote:Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.

That’s what will happen but the AFL just pushing their luck. Don’t blame them
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Jim05 » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:54 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
MW wrote:Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.
Because their grounds are shit and the AFL needs them to be profitable from the get go. The AFL will be propping them up for years so obviously want to ensure that the amount is as little as possible


How is it any different to GWS or Gold Coast when they started?
Those grounds were worse.

It reminds me of the young generation today wanting great jobs, new cars, new houses in good areas, etc etc

Just get in and get started with what you have or can afford currently
Different people in charge now and perhaps they have learnt from their mistakes.
The league simply can’t afford to have a new team coming in and averaging 15k at games.
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Re: Tasmania Devils

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:55 pm

Jim05 wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
MW wrote:Why can't they start by using the existing grounds, then if they out grow them, build a bigger one.
Because their grounds are shit and the AFL needs them to be profitable from the get go. The AFL will be propping them up for years so obviously want to ensure that the amount is as little as possible


How is it any different to GWS or Gold Coast when they started?
Those grounds were worse.

It reminds me of the young generation today wanting great jobs, new cars, new houses in good areas, etc etc

Just get in and get started with what you have or can afford currently
Different people in charge now and perhaps they have learnt from their mistakes.
The league simply can’t afford to have a new team coming in and averaging 15k at games.

Stadium is only 26,000 and that won’t be full each week.
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