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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 18, 2026 8:22 pm

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Jim05 wrote:SA has pinched the MotoGP from the Vics


A bit stunning that they’d let it go, it’s an iconic track.

Will obviously be at The Bend, formal announcement tomorrow. Just pure coincidence that there’s a State election next month.

Weren’t the Vic’s told to move it from Phillip Island or lose it?
Yeah, the organisers wanted it at Albert Park and the VIC government weren’t willing to spend the required money.

Have also heard that the Superbikes might also head to the Bend
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Postby dedja » Wed Feb 18, 2026 8:40 pm

Yep, heard the same.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby heater31 » Wed Feb 18, 2026 9:32 pm

Jim05 wrote:
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dedja wrote:
Jim05 wrote:SA has pinched the MotoGP from the Vics


A bit stunning that they’d let it go, it’s an iconic track.

Will obviously be at The Bend, formal announcement tomorrow. Just pure coincidence that there’s a State election next month.

Weren’t the Vic’s told to move it from Phillip Island or lose it?
Yeah, the organisers wanted it at Albert Park and the VIC government weren’t willing to spend the required money.

Have also heard that the Superbikes might also head to the Bend
Wild stories getting around its a modified GP/Supercars street circuit!

The Bend will be no different to Phillip Island!
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby dedja » Wed Feb 18, 2026 9:39 pm

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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 19, 2026 6:32 am

Seeing the doctor yesterday to get all of my test results back from a recent full service.

Doc said all of my numbers are in the excellent range, must admit that I was pretty nervous heading in thanks to a pretty wild December/January.

Pretty stoked TBH.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Thu Feb 19, 2026 6:38 am

Absolutely regarding the Moto GP. Some people are having a crack at Pete for making this announcement just before an election - He doesn’t need this to win in an absolute landslide and I’m a traditional Liberal voter. This is years in the making from Sam, Charlie and Yasser and Victoria fell asleep at the wheel. Sell off OTR and all of a sudden you have a lot more money to play with. It won’t happen yet given the track needs a lot more work to make it up to scratch for F1 but Victoria should be very nervous about keeping that too as they’ll be coming for it.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Jim05 » Thu Feb 19, 2026 8:02 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Absolutely regarding the Moto GP. Some people are having a crack at Pete for making this announcement just before an election - He doesn’t need this to win in an absolute landslide and I’m a traditional Liberal voter. This is years in the making from Sam, Charlie and Yasser and Victoria fell asleep at the wheel. Sell off OTR and all of a sudden you have a lot more money to play with. It won’t happen yet given the track needs a lot more work to make it up to scratch for F1 but Victoria should be very nervous about keeping that too as they’ll be coming for it.
All the talk in the motor sport world though is that the MotoGP will be held in the CBD as the event organisers want a street circuit with timings that align with Europe so potentially a late arvo or evening race. The Bend would only host it for 2027 whilst they get the CBD track up to scratch which will be a mammoth task. The money required to transform the Victoria Park circuit will be phenomenal, it’s such a big task.
The Bend would host the MotoGP in 2027 and then from 2028 it would get the Superbikes round off Phillip Island
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 19, 2026 8:13 am

Given the stranglehold the Malinauskas government has on holding office they're in a position to spend money on whatever the hell they want to make us all feel good and if, in doing so, they grow our economy to the point that we have more money to spend on our essential services then I say go for it and go for it as hard as you can.

The only caveat is and with such a majority nobody can hold them to account for how they then go about using that wealth.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 19, 2026 8:29 am

I guess on the issues is its hard to hold the government accountable when we never really know the true net profit made from these events. We hear that the income they generate but we never truly hear the cost to hold these events other than they are financial beneficial.

I have no doubt it is the truth that they are beneficial financially but wouldn't be surprised if it's not to the level we would think. Keeping in mind these sporting events are great for winning votes amongst the average punter.

There probably does need to be more clarity on what the cost is to host these events.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby dedja » Thu Feb 19, 2026 9:09 am

I’d like to see how the faark you make a track enclosed by 4 tonne concrete barriers with no run off safe for motorbikes. :-??
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:34 am

dedja wrote:I’d like to see how the faark you make a track enclosed by 4 tonne concrete barriers with no run off safe for motorbikes. :-??


Chat GPT tended to agree with you. However after analyzing the FIM safety regulations it came up with this......

Proposed layout: Pakapakanthi GP Circuit (Adelaide)

Length: ~4.7–5.0 km target, anti‑clockwise.

Location: 80–90% inside Victoria Park / Pakapakanthi, with carefully selected use of Wakefield Rd (east end) and Dequetteville Tce (northbound) only where wide medians/park edges allow deep run‑off pockets to be built. [fim-moto.com]

Rationale: Keeps spectators near the city while ensuring that primary impact directions face open parkland—so we can build the verges, asphalt run‑off, gravel beds, and secondary energy‑absorbing barriers demanded by FIM circuit design before any crowd fencing. [fim-moto.com]

Note on numbers: Exact run‑off depths and barrier types are determined by the FIM homologation process using corner speeds/angles and simulations; the concept below spells out where and how to create those spaces so the design can achieve Grade A once engineered. [fim-moto.com]

Start / Finish + T1 (fast left, in‑park)

Design: Gentle kink leading to a 90–110° left.
Safety: Build a deep asphalt extension plus gravel bed on the outside (rider’s right) with the first protection line set far back in parkland, then air barriers before any perimeter fence. Spectators placed behind the second protection line. [fim-moto.com]

T2/T3 (left–right infield complex)

Design: Medium‑speed “S” which naturally lowers exit speed.
Safety: Wide verges both sides; plant the first line of protection only after continuous clear run‑off; use soft barriers where escape vectors converge. [fim-moto.com]

Back‑straight (in‑park) → T4 Hairpin (anchor braking zone)

Design: Long acceleration zone culminating in a tight left hairpin located deep inside the park to avoid roadside obstructions.
Safety: Triangular run‑off pocket extending far past the hairpin apex, with an ample gravel bed and air modules aligned to expected impact angles. Service road access behind the second line for recovery. [fim-moto.com]

Link to Wakefield Rd (short public section) → T5 left

Design: Rejoins a short, widened (temporary lane shift) section of Wakefield Rd.
Safety: On outside of T5, remove/relocate street furniture and prune/set back trees to create a broad clear zone; build temporary asphalt run‑off tapering to gravel; position protection lines well inside the park perimeter, not on the kerb. [fim-moto.com]

Dequetteville Terrace northbound sweep → T6 chicane

Design: A speed‑conditioning left–right chicane before the bend that parallels Rymill/Kurrangga Park to keep velocities within run‑off capacity.
Safety: Outside of the initial left has longitudinal asphalt then gravel; secondary protection with soft barriers placed behind the gravel; spectators only behind the second protection line. [fim-moto.com]

Re‑enter Park (T7/T8 medium lefts)

Design: Two flowing lefts back into open space.
Safety: The outside is open grassed parkland—grade it smooth, remove isolated obstacles, and push barriers far back; use additional protective devices only where geometry concentrates risk. [fim-moto.com]

Infield fast ‘esses’ → T9 braking left (another anchor)

Design: Rising speed through ‘esses’ into a strong braking left placed with run‑off pointing into empty infield.
Safety: Large paved run‑off for initial deceleration transitioning to gravel, with air modules at the back of the pocket. Marshal points and medical access per FIM posts & intervention guidance. [fim-moto.com]

Short chute → T10/T11 technical left–right → pit entry

Design: Slows the lap before the pit entry.
Safety: Symmetrical verges and clear zones both sides; any structures (bridges, light gantries) must respect FIM track‑side structure clearances and be outside the first protection line. [fim-moto.com]


Pits, paddock, medical, and operations

Pits & paddock: Use the Victoria Park infield for pit lane, garages (temporary but rigid), and paddock hard‑stand, sized and arranged per FIM pit‑lane, signalling and scrutineering provisions. [fim-moto.com]
Marshal posts & signalling: Site posts with clear sightlines and safe access behind protection lines; deploy FIM‑compliant light panels/flag posts and a full CCTV race control. [fim-moto.com]
Medical/Rescue: On‑site medical centre with helicopter access, multiple intervention roads behind the second protection line, and rapid extraction points planned at both anchor braking zones. [fim-moto.com]
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:35 am

And thats how you do it :)
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby dedja » Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:38 am

Then reply that it won’t work, and you’ll get … yes, you’re right, I was just hallucinating, every rider will die if they drop their bike, sorry about that.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:45 am

dedja wrote:Then reply that it won’t work, and you’ll get … yes, you’re right, I was just hallucinating, every rider will die if they drop their bike, sorry about that.


My AI is like my partner it has an answer for everything. Slightly tweaked design coming up haha.
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby dedja » Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:47 am

whufc wrote:
dedja wrote:Then reply that it won’t work, and you’ll get … yes, you’re right, I was just hallucinating, every rider will die if they drop their bike, sorry about that.


My AI is like my partner it has an answer for everything. Slightly tweaked design coming up haha.


Just use AI for one day to communicate with your partner, you enter everything they say and have to abide by the AI response … and then let us know how it goes. :D
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:48 am

dedja wrote:
whufc wrote:
dedja wrote:Then reply that it won’t work, and you’ll get … yes, you’re right, I was just hallucinating, every rider will die if they drop their bike, sorry about that.


My AI is like my partner it has an answer for everything. Slightly tweaked design coming up haha.


Just use AI for one day to communicate with your partner, you enter everything they say and have to abide by the AI response … and then let us know how it goes. :D


Im up for it....

Apparently the new version now works but is entirely in the parklands...

What makes this version “work” for MotoGP

No public streets: Every corner now faces open parkland so we can push the first protection line far back and build deep, obstacle‑free track surroundings & run‑off areas per FIM Article 4.8. [motogp.com]
Run‑off hierarchy implemented: High‑risk corners have asphalt deceleration zones transitioning to gravel beds, with additional protective devices (e.g., AirFence/soft barriers) placed behind the clear zones, following Article 4.9 and 4.10. [motogp.com]
Speed‑conditioning where needed: Subtle chicanes before exposed bends limit approach speed so required run‑off fits inside the park envelope—exact depths to be finalised via the FIM simulation step in the homologation dossier. [motogp.com]
Size is in range: The lap length targets ~4.7–5.0 km, comfortably within typical MotoGP circuit lengths (e.g., Jerez 4.42 km, Barcelona‑Catalunya 4.66 km, Mugello 5.245 km, Silverstone 5.9 km). [redbull.com]
Homologation path baked in: The design anticipates the formal process—dossier, simulation, inspections, licence—required for FIM Grade A circuits. [motogp.com]
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby dedja » Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:52 am

Except this is the official announcement, going to use the extended F1 street circuit … https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2026/02/ ... 027/874866

Makes absolutely no sense to me to use the Adelaide Street circuit instead of The Bend, but what would I know? Just can’t fathom how they can make it safe.

Inner East NIMBYs are ecstatic :lol:
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Feb 19, 2026 11:25 am

As a very, very casual observer of Moto GP, what's the run-off required on corners etc?

Looks like it will be back to back with the Supercars, which from a logistics point of view makes good sense
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 19, 2026 11:33 am

wenchbarwer wrote:As a very, very casual observer of Moto GP, what's the run-off required on corners etc?

Looks like it will be back to back with the Supercars, which from a logistics point of view makes good sense


Typical MotoGP Run‑Off Distances (Real Circuits)
1. High‑speed braking corners (250–320 km/h → 80–120 km/h)
Examples: Mugello T1, Barcelona T1, Qatar T1

Paved run‑off: 40–70 m
Gravel bed: 20–35 m
Total distance to barrier: 60–100+ m

This matches the FIM’s need for a “sufficient range” run‑off and gravel sized using speed and trajectory.

2. Medium‑speed corners (140–220 km/h)
Examples: Assen T6, Jerez T5

Paved run‑off: 18–35 m
Gravel: 10–20 m
Total: 30–55 m

3. Slow hairpins / tight corners (60–100 km/h)
Examples: Le Mans Garage Vert, Misano T14

Paved run‑off: 12–25 m
Gravel: 6–12 m
Total: 20–40 m
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Re: Things that you rate!

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 19, 2026 11:33 am

wenchbarwer wrote:As a very, very casual observer of Moto GP, what's the run-off required on corners etc?

Looks like it will be back to back with the Supercars, which from a logistics point of view makes good sense


I'd imagine the space required would be the distance from when a bike drops at 300km/h to when the guy in the helmet stops yelling "F*********************************************************************CK" or thereabouts.
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