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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby hawkseye » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:34 pm

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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby 04 Premiership Coach » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:37 pm

Well,in terms of whats happened on the field the club has had some level of success.Three Grand Finals in eight years and two minor premierships in the last four years is not a bad effort.But,if onfield results have been encouraging,off-field results have been a disgrace.Granted,the club has installed decent lighting,but that hardly translates into memberships and money in the bank.Given the high player turnover at Ovingham there are clearly issues with the manner in which the club is being run,and if the appointment of Chris Newman brings numbers then surely that is a good thing.Once again,no one asked Heather to leave the club,she just doesnt like anyone else coming along with better ideas on how to do things.Surely Heather can take a step back in the interests of bettering the club
Does that really sound so unreasonable?
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby hawkseye » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:03 pm

I taken on board your optimism, but Newman took numbers to Wingfield and look what happened. I even think that the Bgrade at Wingfield had to have their own presentation night because of this bloke. As for the lady mate i dont know her but the only person that has anything negative to say is you! I hope she decides to come to West Croydon people like her are dime a dozen.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby 04 Premiership Coach » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:11 pm

hawkseye wrote:I taken on board your optimism, but Newman took numbers to Wingfield and look what happened. I even think that the Bgrade at Wingfield had to have their own presentation night because of this bloke. As for the lady mate i dont know her but the only person that has anything negative to say is you! I hope she decides to come to West Croydon people like her are dime a dozen.

I know it doesnt sound like it,but I actually agree with all the good things that people say about Heather.It's just that she has become so set in her ways that the point has come where the club is at a stand still.As for Wingfield,they have caused alot of their own problems.I should also say that I've known quite a few good people from West Croydon and I respect whatever you have to say given that you are from there.Good luck for the year ahead
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby hawkseye » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:02 pm

04 Premiership Coach wrote:
hawkseye wrote:I taken on board your optimism, but Newman took numbers to Wingfield and look what happened. I even think that the Bgrade at Wingfield had to have their own presentation night because of this bloke. As for the lady mate i dont know her but the only person that has anything negative to say is you! I hope she decides to come to West Croydon people like her are dime a dozen.

I know it doesnt sound like it,but I actually agree with all the good things that people say about Heather.It's just that she has become so set in her ways that the point has come where the club is at a stand still.As for Wingfield,they have caused alot of their own problems.I should also say that I've known quite a few good people from West Croydon and I respect whatever you have to say given that you are from there.Good luck for the year ahead

Thanks for that and i hope that Ovies pull through for Heather.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Punk Rooster » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:54 pm

hawkseye wrote:Thanks for that and i hope that Ovies pull through for Heather.

shouldn't the hope be that Ovie's survive for Ovie's sake?
The club must be bigger than any individual...
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby The Ash Man » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:58 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:
hawkseye wrote:Thanks for that and i hope that Ovies pull through for Heather.

shouldn't the hope be that Ovie's survive for Ovie's sake?
The club must be bigger than any individual...


Exactly Punk, well said
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby hawkseye » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:03 pm

Yes it is but Im not to fussed with them. Is a bit a harsh but the truth. Where as Heather sounds like a terrific lady who just puts the club 1st.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Blue Boy » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:23 pm

The Ash Man wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:
hawkseye wrote:Thanks for that and i hope that Ovies pull through for Heather.

shouldn't the hope be that Ovie's survive for Ovie's sake?
The club must be bigger than any individual...


Exactly Punk, well said
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Very true im with yas as well !!!
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Scorpion » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:36 pm

Blue Boy wrote:
The Ash Man wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:
hawkseye wrote:Thanks for that and i hope that Ovies pull through for Heather.

shouldn't the hope be that Ovie's survive for Ovie's sake?
The club must be bigger than any individual...


Exactly Punk, well said
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Very true im with yas as well !!!


I also agree that a club has to be bigger than one person. True, this Heather may be nice and been there forever blah blah, but I also know that some people can be in one place too long and end up doing more damage by not letting things happen. Unlike Hawkseye I'm not inviting Heather to WCFC.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby 04 Premiership Coach » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:03 pm

Sounds like I'm making a few freinds.Of course Punk is right.The club is bigger than the individual.I've got a bit of an update on exactly what happened,so here goes.
At a recent board meeting a few issues were raised regarding the fact that the President was kind of being stood over and told what to do by his mum(Heather).A few people on the comittee did'nt think this was right,but Heather told them that any decisions regarding the club had to go through her as she is the secretary.To my way of thinking this makes the president not much more than a poster boy.Anyway,the comittee said that things are'nt done that way,and that the pres makes the decisions in consultation with the board.Heather was'nt happy with this and promptly resigned,and now people are saying that the new coach is to blame.I think this is unfair on the guy considering he has brought about 20 players out to the club and has a good coaching record.Now I was'nt at said meeting so I have to admit that this is all third hand knowledge but I consider my sources to be very reliable and they are all telling me the same story.I'll leave it to you guys to make up your own minds and I look forward to hearing you responses.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Scorpion » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:26 pm

04 Premiership Coach wrote:Sounds like I'm making a few freinds.Of course Punk is right.The club is bigger than the individual.I've got a bit of an update on exactly what happened,so here goes.
At a recent board meeting a few issues were raised regarding the fact that the President was kind of being stood over and told what to do by his mum(Heather).A few people on the comittee did'nt think this was right,but Heather told them that any decisions regarding the club had to go through her as she is the secretary.To my way of thinking this makes the president not much more than a poster boy.Anyway,the comittee said that things are'nt done that way,and that the pres makes the decisions in consultation with the board.Heather was'nt happy with this and promptly resigned,and now people are saying that the new coach is to blame.I think this is unfair on the guy considering he has brought about 20 players out to the club and has a good coaching record.Now I was'nt at said meeting so I have to admit that this is all third hand knowledge but I consider my sources to be very reliable and they are all telling me the same story.I'll leave it to you guys to make up your own minds and I look forward to hearing you responses.

Settle down, never said i was your friend!!
Still don't think its safe having a coach come in and bring so many players - he hasn't ever had a long tenure anywhere has he - and maybe Wingies will be having the same trouble soon because players follow the leader. No loyalty, but I guess 2009 will be the season to decide if that is the case at Ovies.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby 04 Premiership Coach » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:36 pm

Oh Scorpion,you've just broken my heart,but your comments are pretty much spot on.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Rupert My Boy » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:28 pm

Mr 04 Premiership Coach, your story is only half right. In the first place, Locky should never have been elected President. He should never have agreed to stand and be put in that position.I am sure there are people within the club that are trying to do the right thing by getting on the committee to help out but they need some guidance, unfortunately there is no one there with the Footy Club Smarts and no other club in Adelaide would employ Chris Newman as a coach, let alone pay him 'up front' ,if they checked his past record of clubs & the issues that seem to arise whilst he is at a club.
He is the one common denominator in all of the past issues and as the saying goes, "where there's smoke, you normally find a fire"
Had the committee checked with the previous clubs where Chris Newman had been, they may not have employed him. Several clubs have been burnt by similar situations, a guy applies for a job, tells the committee he can bring 10-12 players & the eyes light up. They stay a season, disappear and move on to the next place.

Seen it all before and will be looking forward with interest to 2009 and the outcomes at the Ovingham Footy Club
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby 04 Premiership Coach » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:06 pm

Which part of your most recent post explains why my story is only "half right"?And if you check your facts you will find that Heather supported Locky's bid to become president and the club only paid half up front to the new coach.Also,there were a number of clubs,namely Kilburn,Virginia and surprise surprise,Wingfield who made offers to the gypsy coach for this season.You were right about one thing.Ovingham for a long time has lacked the smarts to make it out of Div 10 and I guess we will have to wait until 2009 to see the real outcome of the recent turmoil at the club.My money is on Newman to do a top job for Ovies this year in terms of results.It's up to the comittee to take care of the rest.
By the way,which club are you affiliated with?
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby hawkseye » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:09 pm

04 Premiership Coach wrote:Which part of your most recent post explains why my story is only "half right"?And if you check your facts you will find that Heather supported Locky's bid to become president and the club only paid half up front to the new coach.Also,there were a number of clubs,namely Kilburn,Virginia and surprise surprise,Wingfield who made offers to the gypsy coach for this season.You were right about one thing.Ovingham for a long time has lacked the smarts to make it out of Div 10 and I guess we will have to wait until 2009 to see the real outcome of the recent turmoil at the club.My money is on Newman to do a top job for Ovies this year in terms of results.It's up to the comittee to take care of the rest.
By the way,which club are you affiliated with?

Did Newman himself tell you or commitee about his offers? pretty sure the Wingfield one is inaccurate. considering they are thinking about legal action against him.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby 04 Premiership Coach » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:19 pm

hawkseye wrote:
04 Premiership Coach wrote:Which part of your most recent post explains why my story is only "half right"?And if you check your facts you will find that Heather supported Locky's bid to become president and the club only paid half up front to the new coach.Also,there were a number of clubs,namely Kilburn,Virginia and surprise surprise,Wingfield who made offers to the gypsy coach for this season.You were right about one thing.Ovingham for a long time has lacked the smarts to make it out of Div 10 and I guess we will have to wait until 2009 to see the real outcome of the recent turmoil at the club.My money is on Newman to do a top job for Ovies this year in terms of results.It's up to the comittee to take care of the rest.
By the way,which club are you affiliated with?

Did Newman himself tell you or commitee about his offers? pretty sure the Wingfield one is inaccurate. considering they are thinking about legal action against him.

Check with the club mate.When Brodie resigned they approach Chris for this year.You might have trouble getting them to admit it,but those are the facts
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby 04 Premiership Coach » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:21 pm

I forgot something.How can the club take legal action against one bloke?If they want the jumpers back they're gonna have to take the 22 players to court.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby hawkseye » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:23 pm

04 Premiership Coach wrote:
hawkseye wrote:
04 Premiership Coach wrote:Which part of your most recent post explains why my story is only "half right"?And if you check your facts you will find that Heather supported Locky's bid to become president and the club only paid half up front to the new coach.Also,there were a number of clubs,namely Kilburn,Virginia and surprise surprise,Wingfield who made offers to the gypsy coach for this season.You were right about one thing.Ovingham for a long time has lacked the smarts to make it out of Div 10 and I guess we will have to wait until 2009 to see the real outcome of the recent turmoil at the club.My money is on Newman to do a top job for Ovies this year in terms of results.It's up to the comittee to take care of the rest.
By the way,which club are you affiliated with?

Did Newman himself tell you or commitee about his offers? pretty sure the Wingfield one is inaccurate. considering they are thinking about legal action against him.

Check with the club mate.When Brodie resigned they approach Chris for this year.You might have trouble getting them to admit it,but those are the facts

I have no need too, i know them and you are off the mark. I have now doubt he and his croonies will do well at Ovies, its what happens after is the problem. Its like following a horse you just have to look at its form.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby hawkseye » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:26 pm

04 Premiership Coach wrote:I forgot something.How can the club take legal action against one bloke?If they want the jumpers back they're gonna have to take the 22 players to court.

Maybe there is more to it?
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